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The Voth are coming, should I be excited?
krotaz
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So the Voth are coming, should I be excited? Unfortunately I am not, not because I don't think they would be a good addition or have an interesting background but because it will be a supposedly tougher race to deal with that won't be. I get that Borg are supposed to be the ultimate bad guys in Star Trek but why don't the other supposed really tough other bad guys have any end game relevance? The Undine came close with Terradome but it was only a single mission that had many unresolved bugs and no rewards equal to the Borg Special Task Force (STF) missions and thus it was not played and sadly eliminated rather than fixed. Since then we have the Tholians and Elachi which have only continued this downward slide of supposedly introducing a menace that does not seem be relevant to continue fighting to the degree the Borg STF missions are. Sure there are some reputation missions for the Tholians but it pales in comparison to the Borg STF missions. The Borg STF missions are part of a story arc with eight pieces and after I complete the related Omega reputation system I am motivated to keep playing them for dilithium and the occasional good gear drop. The Tholians have no story arc equivalent and after the reputation and few associated pieces of gear the level of rewards do not compare to what I can achieve performing elite Borg STFs.
At the end of the day I would love for the Tholians, Elachi, and soon the Voth to have an equivalent Special Task Force story arc and mission set with normal and elite levels and rewards similar to the Borg STFs. I would love to log on and choose which menace I am going to fight and have each one require different tactics to complete. It would be nice if the tactics to defeat them were such that maybe I would decide it was better to use a cruiser or science vessel as opposed to escort vessel for a very explicit reason. I know you have said the upcoming content will focus more on end game content and I can only hope that this is a consideration.
At the end of the day I would love for the Tholians, Elachi, and soon the Voth to have an equivalent Special Task Force story arc and mission set with normal and elite levels and rewards similar to the Borg STFs. I would love to log on and choose which menace I am going to fight and have each one require different tactics to complete. It would be nice if the tactics to defeat them were such that maybe I would decide it was better to use a cruiser or science vessel as opposed to escort vessel for a very explicit reason. I know you have said the upcoming content will focus more on end game content and I can only hope that this is a consideration.
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I don't want to sound mean, but paragraphs are your friends. Don't shun them.
Sales > Canon.
How something is used can make them interesting. Heck, did anyone care about the Andorians before Shran came along?
No, now get back to Dil grinding.
Yeah, the Voth SHOULD be tough, because of their considerably more advanced technology. . .but that doesn't mean they will be. I expect to be blowing up Voth City Ships with 5 player teams.
Don't forget about a month after they enter the game there will be Voth Lockboxes with more power creep to go along with them. :P :eek:
Nothing worth getting excited over until we see what they do in STO.
I don't know, the concept art is pretty neat looking, and the overall idea they are putting forth is rather exciting. Of course, it all comes down to execution....
The Federation-Klingon War?
Cryptic has a tradition on using these groups or events, and doing the minimal exposure to them. Now you see them, no you don't.
So, let's say the Voth get a few missions. Maybe new 1-2 mousewheel instances for you Gerbils to run around constantly. Then what? You won't hear or deal with them again. Just like the Elachi, who really only 1 group in this game deals with them, the Romulans, who kind of reminded me are being given the Soylent Green treatment by the Elachi :P
The Voth like many things will be a blip on the radar and then forgotten about in the background of STO.
Just like anything important storywise, it will be forgotten about, it will not be expanded upon, it will not be fleshed out, it will not show further effects of the event or any "domino effects."
The original storyline that drove everything, started the whole mess in the STO galaxy is the Undine. The infiltration, the initial discovery from within their own ranks of the Klingon Empire of this infiltration, the purge, etc. The discovery of the massive infiltration of the Gorn Hegemony. The falling apart of the Dominion War-winning alliance of the Federation & Klingon Empire. The war between the 2 powers. The Klingons being the only major power in the quadrant to realize the total threat of the Undine and the only ones to act on them.
The Undine are a bonafide, large threat against everyone. They were taking the fight to the Borg and handling business, and not standing back on the defensive like everyone else. Their form of technology and their ships have great power and would make obvious bosses. They shapeshift, they infiltrate like changelings. They were the driving force in the breakdown of relations of the Federation & Klingon Empire, an event that shaped the course of STO's background. So the players killed a few Undine? Whoopee. There's far more where that came from, and they have the tools to give everyone a run for the money.
And Cryptic has done nothing to expand on this.
If Cryptic has done much at all with the Undine and other large dangers, the Voth will be "in" because they're new, then totally forgotten about.
The Borg have only been around for mere thousands of years, but the Voth became a space faring civilization around 65 million years ago.
And it shows, because they were easily able to completely nullify all power sources on Voyager and transport the entire ship inside their city ship.
Not to mention that they also have interphase cloaking devices.
Then take that credit away when you realize they're only doing it so the can get us to shoe out more money for themselves (not from me though suckahs!).
But then give them cudos that it takes a lot of money to make a game that spans a galaxy. Making games that revolve around a world is easy. Doing it about Star Trek which has thousands upon millions upon billions of endless possibilities and adventures, and you realize this game is a far more daunting task to initialize than people think.
I understand people's complaints, but maybe if we got the same degrees as the Cryptic crew we could possible speed up this games true potential so that our children may be brought into this cool game we built.
That being said, as long as I'm not bored and won't have to repeat episodes out of boredom, I'm all for it.
(When I think of city ships, I think of Atlantis)
"Look at me I'm a target!"
"Fire the Lance on my mark... MARK!
"How many times have we gone into the breach again R'shee?"
My proposal for a Galaxy bundle
Also, they talked a lot about the new zones having a lot of found content. IE: No one points you where to go, you can just fly around and find stuff, like DoFF assignments, playable missions, etc... That sounds pretty cool.
But I would like to add, that you can only be exited about something new, if it's a sandbox game like EvE.
The Voth would add a 4 TeraByte patch, full of content if done right. From libraries of their history, the dinosaur itself and their technologies, to peacemaking interactions, trade routes or even a formed alliance against the Borg and Spezies 8472.
Maybe they would allow it to upgrade your ship with their technology for special tasks, or maybe for ever - but then STO would also need another balacne system and not this scissor stone paper system.
Don't expect too much. Like many said, a featured episode, and then forgotten.