New icons are horrible.
They look really cartoony (like from a comic book) and do NOT blend well with the other icons that represent engines, sheilds, weapons etc.
For example all other icons have a black background.
I like the idea to try to clean up consoles - (eg all the sci consoles never changed after the revamp - for example photonic becoming part. gen and still looking like a holodeck). But homogenizing the tac consoles (energy weapons/torps) was wrong as the icons telling you the type is just too small even when viewed on a 32 inch TV screen. Implementation is a fail.
Obviously the art department dont fix bugs, but time could have been spend on making zones like the academies suitable for jetpacks or making new maps for new missions.. who knows...
The icons were a problem and should never have been changed.
I like the designs they are going for, they actually look like pieces of equipment than random bits of plastic you'd find in a Kinder Egg. Especially the science ones.
But I agree that they should have more variation in the design. The tac consoles are exactly the same in shape and design, they just swapped some colours around and changed the beam/torp icon on the face of it.
So yeah, I like the new designs. I hate that they cut corners.
But I agree that they should have more variation in the design. The tac consoles are exactly the same in shape and design, they just swapped some colours around and changed the beam/torp icon on the face of it.
So yeah, I like the new designs. I hate that they cut corners.
Goal 1: Introduce a visual language into these console icons to make it easier to understand at a glance what bonuses that icon grants and what systems they affect.
This way, an energy tactical console is obviously an energy tactical console at a glance. You might not like it, but it wasn't a shortcut.
Personally, I think the new icons look good. It'll take some time to get used to them, but they're a step up.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
The point of icons is to represent different ideas simply and easily.
If you're going to make them all the same with subtle differences in colour and shading, what's the point?
I wasn't a fan of the old ones either, but at least I was able to tell the difference between a Phaser Relay and a Phase Modulator. Now I can't, especially if I was colour blind.
I picked up a rare warhead yield chamber mk X that lists 17.5% torpedo damage buff twice. Can anyone verify if this is another tool-tip issue or were generics buffed?
They are not duplicated on the dedicated consoles I have equipped.
Edit: Directed Energy Manifolds and Prefire Chambers do not appear to have duplicated tool tips either.
I picked up a rare warhead yield chamber mk X that lists 17.5% torpedo damage buff twice. Can anyone verify if this is another tool-tip issue or were generics buffed?
They are not duplicated on the dedicated consoles I have equipped.
I've got several items that list their percentages/pluses more than once...
(both Space and Ground ones)
I've just assumed that they are all tool-tip goofs.
<shrug>
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I don't think some of you really realise how much work Thomas put into these icons, and how things work with bug fixing, and also how lazy you all are in having to learn the new icons.
As it is now I don't have a clue what's what without squinting and mousing over the icons.. I'm hoping it's just an adjustment phase and that I will eventually be able to recognise a console on sight.
honestly i have no idea what anything is anymore without mousing over stuff, the backgrounds themselves make it rather hard at a glance to tell there rarity with the colored backgrounds
Try differentiating the icons with only 70% good vision in both eyes.
These new console icons literally look all the same to me. It looks like a Cryptic "Artist" held their 3 year old a bunch of crayons and then scanned the image in.
"You know when that shark bites, with its teeth dear... scarlet billows start to spread..."
You like these deranged designer nightmare renditions ? you gotta be nuts !!! Instead of fixing numerous problems since season 4 season 5 season 6 and LOR like known problems and holodeck mail and so on ... you got problems dude or your not seeing right or are slightly ... you know ? get real bub better colors selecting and making things look better simple and cool to look at is what the future holds for us {Pastel Eww PUke] not added confusion for the masses and more efficient not reversed ? plain sumb and ugly how did this get past inspaction and approval , if this went through what is next , I'm afraid to ask or look now !! nuff said
I don't think some of you really realise how much work Thomas put into these icons, and how things work with bug fixing, and also how lazy you all are in having to learn the new icons.
I think they're a massive improvement.
The alloy, armor, and hull plating are all so similar, I really don't see how much work went into that one. Looks like a cut and paste job with a few minor changes. Honestly my 7 year old son could of photoshopped a better icon for these.
The others I can live with, but those are terrible. If he did put a lot of work into them it was time wasted. I don't think there is 1 post on this forum asking for the old icons to be changed.
You like these deranged designer nightmare renditions ? you gotta be nuts !!! Instead of fixing numerous problems since season 4 season 5 season 6 and LOR like known problems and holodeck mail and so on ... you got problems dude or your not seeing right or are slightly ... you know ? get real bub better colors selecting and making things look better simple and cool to look at is what the future holds for us {Pastel Eww PUke] not added confusion for the masses and more efficient not reversed ? plain sumb and ugly how did this get past inspaction and approval , if this went through what is next , I'm afraid to ask or look now !! nuff said
No reason to go on the attack...
Everybody is entitled to their opinion without being mean.
And remember... Display Artists DON'T FIX BUGS!
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Weapon 'coils' - space blunderbusses
rcs - solar panels
armor - circuit boards?
alloys - space onions
torp consoles - look like a space minigun held in an fps view
particle - hey, they look like a proper component!
flow caps - technologically advanced radiator valve caps
eps - badly plumbed in water softener unit thats made the water a rusty red
Everybody is entitled to their opinion without being mean.
And remember... Display Artists DON'T FIX BUGS!
you got a point on what 1 individual on this whole post can like lol ? but ... to pay the designers money and time to waste that other employees that fix stuff instead is a waste of time and money and stuff is still broken in gameplay !! what isn't important and should be left alone is things that look better and is not broke !! leave it all on the back burner for some rainy day is dumb and put this gross graphics that waste time money and players enjoyments being online playing trek vs 1 lil player that likes foo foo colors, Obviously designers dont fix problems THATS why the Problems are Still Here lol and ugly colors as well
I guess I'll be in the minority and say I actually like the new icons. Sure I'll have to memorize what the new icons represent (oh noes), but visually I think they're a step up from what we had before.
I can't tell the difference between the types at a glance anymore. Guess I'll be relying on tool tips from now on.
Ahh , but you KNOW this is not the end ... .
Soon they will redesign any remaining 'old' icons to visually match the "new & improved" bunch , and after their super duper "new player" demographic will point to a severe lack of understanding the console art , they will turn about and redesign it all over again ... .
you got a point on what 1 individual on this whole post can like lol ? but ... to pay the designers money and time to waste that other employees that fix stuff instead is a waste of time and money and stuff is still broken in gameplay !! what isn't important and should be left alone is things that look better and is not broke !! leave it all on the back burner for some rainy day is dumb and put this gross graphics that waste time money and players enjoyments being online playing trek vs 1 lil player that likes foo foo colors, Obviously designers dont fix problems THATS why the Problems are Still Here lol and ugly colors as well
is english a second language ? not a joke, seriously. that's the second post that I have read from you that I have no idea of the point you are trying to get across.
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What in the name of all that is sane was the graphic designer thinking? Had it ever crossed his mind that there might be partially sighted players, like me, playing this game?
Obviously not.
Now all of the tac consoles looks literally the same.
Thanks for making STO more unfriendly to partially sighted players than it already is.
"You know when that shark bites, with its teeth dear... scarlet billows start to spread..."
They might look pretty in a cartoon kind of way, but I don't like them, I prefer the old icons, they look more futuristic and much clearer in which is which.
Now I have to hover my mouse over them just to see what they are, i can't really tell which one is which especially if they are all purple. Horrible really, especially if you farm Consoles.
Now found frequenting MWO short term and then Star Citizen long term. Raged Quit PVP long ago
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I will add my voice here. i don't mind that they were updated. However, I DO NOT LIKE the new designs. they are very hard to tell one item from each other at a glance . too many candy colors. the images are too "mushy" i have no idea what many of them are trying to be. Everything looks very "kiddie" now.
again. change can good. but this is not good change.
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They look really cartoony (like from a comic book) and do NOT blend well with the other icons that represent engines, sheilds, weapons etc.
For example all other icons have a black background.
I like the idea to try to clean up consoles - (eg all the sci consoles never changed after the revamp - for example photonic becoming part. gen and still looking like a holodeck). But homogenizing the tac consoles (energy weapons/torps) was wrong as the icons telling you the type is just too small even when viewed on a 32 inch TV screen. Implementation is a fail.
Obviously the art department dont fix bugs, but time could have been spend on making zones like the academies suitable for jetpacks or making new maps for new missions.. who knows...
The icons were a problem and should never have been changed.
...#LLAP...
that was the whole point. :cool: these are tac/sci/ and eng consoles and are colored accordingly to differentiate.
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I think they forget this every day.
But I agree that they should have more variation in the design. The tac consoles are exactly the same in shape and design, they just swapped some colours around and changed the beam/torp icon on the face of it.
So yeah, I like the new designs. I hate that they cut corners.
It wasn't "cutting corners" in any way.
This way, an energy tactical console is obviously an energy tactical console at a glance. You might not like it, but it wasn't a shortcut.
Personally, I think the new icons look good. It'll take some time to get used to them, but they're a step up.
If you're going to make them all the same with subtle differences in colour and shading, what's the point?
I wasn't a fan of the old ones either, but at least I was able to tell the difference between a Phaser Relay and a Phase Modulator. Now I can't, especially if I was colour blind.
This is a lesson cryptic really needs to learn.
If they employed more people on the bug fixing side and a little less on the artistic side.......I think this would be a much better game.
They are not duplicated on the dedicated consoles I have equipped.
Edit: Directed Energy Manifolds and Prefire Chambers do not appear to have duplicated tool tips either.
I've got several items that list their percentages/pluses more than once...
(both Space and Ground ones)
I've just assumed that they are all tool-tip goofs.
<shrug>
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Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
I think they're a massive improvement.
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Try differentiating the icons with only 70% good vision in both eyes.
These new console icons literally look all the same to me. It looks like a Cryptic "Artist" held their 3 year old a bunch of crayons and then scanned the image in.
You like these deranged designer nightmare renditions ? you gotta be nuts !!! Instead of fixing numerous problems since season 4 season 5 season 6 and LOR like known problems and holodeck mail and so on ... you got problems dude or your not seeing right or are slightly ... you know ? get real bub better colors selecting and making things look better simple and cool to look at is what the future holds for us {Pastel Eww PUke] not added confusion for the masses and more efficient not reversed ? plain sumb and ugly how did this get past inspaction and approval , if this went through what is next , I'm afraid to ask or look now !! nuff said
The alloy, armor, and hull plating are all so similar, I really don't see how much work went into that one. Looks like a cut and paste job with a few minor changes. Honestly my 7 year old son could of photoshopped a better icon for these.
The others I can live with, but those are terrible. If he did put a lot of work into them it was time wasted. I don't think there is 1 post on this forum asking for the old icons to be changed.
No reason to go on the attack...
Everybody is entitled to their opinion without being mean.
And remember... Display Artists DON'T FIX BUGS!
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
how may consoles is that ... 1 2 3 ? massive maybe it seems more because theres mass passive then Errr ?
rcs - solar panels
armor - circuit boards?
alloys - space onions
torp consoles - look like a space minigun held in an fps view
particle - hey, they look like a proper component!
flow caps - technologically advanced radiator valve caps
eps - badly plumbed in water softener unit thats made the water a rusty red
...
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
is it just me? or does that not make any sense ?
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http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=828181
you got a point on what 1 individual on this whole post can like lol ? but ... to pay the designers money and time to waste that other employees that fix stuff instead is a waste of time and money and stuff is still broken in gameplay !! what isn't important and should be left alone is things that look better and is not broke !! leave it all on the back burner for some rainy day is dumb and put this gross graphics that waste time money and players enjoyments being online playing trek vs 1 lil player that likes foo foo colors, Obviously designers dont fix problems THATS why the Problems are Still Here lol and ugly colors as well
You can't forget something you've never learned ... .
Ahh , but you KNOW this is not the end ... .
Soon they will redesign any remaining 'old' icons to visually match the "new & improved" bunch , and after their super duper "new player" demographic will point to a severe lack of understanding the console art , they will turn about and redesign it all over again ... .
Wait 4 it .
It'll happen .
is english a second language ? not a joke, seriously. that's the second post that I have read from you that I have no idea of the point you are trying to get across.
---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
I want to ask one simple question.
What in the name of all that is sane was the graphic designer thinking? Had it ever crossed his mind that there might be partially sighted players, like me, playing this game?
Obviously not.
Now all of the tac consoles looks literally the same.
Thanks for making STO more unfriendly to partially sighted players than it already is.
Now I have to hover my mouse over them just to see what they are, i can't really tell which one is which especially if they are all purple. Horrible really, especially if you farm Consoles.
- Gohan (House of Beautiful /Sad Pandas)
again. change can good. but this is not good change.