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klingot
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You never addressed my real question why do You reward the free players the same as the paid ones that have driven this game to the point that it can be free. I do,
"not" really appreciate the miserly 500 omega points as month it should five hundred of each factions points, the fact that veterans have to earn 1000 omega points to get anything is ridicules after putting in three years it should be more like 250 for us and 10000 for the free players they did not pay to make it free, we did after putting close to four thousand or more of my hard earned dollars, into this game how do you think it makes all of us feel to see they can get what we played years to get practically for free just by collecting omega points, but wait not only that but after we collect them we still have to spend points and money for Zen to get boxes or dilithium in order to ever create them how in gods name is that fair the free and the fee players have to put out the same? Sorry guys but that's totally bogus! rethink everything and make it right!!!!!!!!!!!
"not" really appreciate the miserly 500 omega points as month it should five hundred of each factions points, the fact that veterans have to earn 1000 omega points to get anything is ridicules after putting in three years it should be more like 250 for us and 10000 for the free players they did not pay to make it free, we did after putting close to four thousand or more of my hard earned dollars, into this game how do you think it makes all of us feel to see they can get what we played years to get practically for free just by collecting omega points, but wait not only that but after we collect them we still have to spend points and money for Zen to get boxes or dilithium in order to ever create them how in gods name is that fair the free and the fee players have to put out the same? Sorry guys but that's totally bogus! rethink everything and make it right!!!!!!!!!!!
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somebody's feeling entitled.....
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---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
A game that gives lifetime subs for 300 with a 500 zen stipend worth 5 dollars, all items available through in game means
If you really did spend 4k...I wish I could throw money like that around. And if I could it sure wouldn't be on a game...probably booze, maybe a vacation, flying lessons...damn, a lot of stuff
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
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As for being one of the former"unwashed masses"that the OP is referring to, I want to thank the F2pers for playing the game.I know the majority do spend money as I have.I know some are seeking work in a strained economy, or are retired, and on a fixed income. That dosen't lessen their value as players.I have a LTS, and read the agreement, before purchase.My agreement has been honored by Cryptic.I want to again thank my family for my LTS.
1: find a wall mirror
2: approach said mirror
3: view self in mirror
4: slap yourself in the face really really hard
problem solved.
---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
What your suggesting would turn this game into a Pay 2 Win game, which is not what Cryptic wants, they want everyone to have an equal opportunity to gain rewards no matter how much they spend.
Anyone want to give me a Temporal Heavy Dreadnought pack? I'll be your friend
so lock box ships are not pay to win? zen store ships are not pay to win? using zen to bypass the dill cap is not pay to win? oh and because its the god ship in game JHAS is not pay to win?
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Us LTS's don't get 500 omega points a month, we get 500 zen. Far more useful. Can turn it into dilithium for a start.
We also get a free 2000 zen ship per toon as well as the LTS destroyer, hundreds of zens worth of enhancements on each toon, access to unique playable race, as well as a handful of minor tweaks that make play easier.
We've got our advantage.
And if they came right out and said 'I wanna buy rep points with zen' then I'd be somewhat more impressed.
Dressing it up as if they're entitled is just not cricket.
No, strictly speaking, because its possible to win without them.
They're all nice but superfluous.
But clearly STO, by having a pay component at all, is pay to something.
Pay to find things somewhat more convenient, perhaps?
Pay to get to play with premium toys slightly quicker than FTP players?
Pay to break canon and/or clog up hub ports with stupidly big ships?
funny i use money to not grind out EC to buy lock box ships funny i use money to have something better then what the game gives freely or takes me days to weeks or years of grinding funny i use money to not grind period only time i grind is about 1 hour or so ones a week to get marks for rep grind money buys me EC by selling master keys so this game is pay to win imo
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i spend 70 on a lock box ship that take you what close to a year to grind for i just paid to win but i do love how you think JHAS is not a pay to win ship love to see how long of a grind with out using money that would be when i could just at the first of the month pay 400$ to get say ship and again just paid to win for if you have not seen considered the best escort in the game
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Veteran Rewards for spending money gives players something that helps them win a unique ship you can't get otherwise.
Lifers have advantages already. There is no reason to give them more especialy considering after that one month the payment is already used and you are the same as a free player as far as the monthly revenue is concerned. There is no good financial reason to give the benifits the OP is crying about considering the faster you get the gear the less likely you will pay more real money over time.
Someone who does a subcription for 21 monthes paid more money than a LTS fee, those people deserve something for maintaining a subscription for longer than LTS is worth in subscription fees.
Silver players who actualy bought zen deserve something as a thank you.
LTS doesnt deserve anything more than they get already especialy after 20 monthes. After that you are just a silver player with a gold account and that itself is a huge benifit.
What this game should ahve 1 3 account types.
1. Gold, LTS and Subscribers.
2. Silver, Any player that has not subscribed but has bought Zen.
3. Bronze, True free players who has never purchased Zen.
Gold, No changes to account. Silver add half the extra storage gold gets. Bronze would be what is silver right now. That would be a thank you to those Silver players who have paid money but are treated like a mooch in the most insulting ways.
"I'm drunk, whats your excuse for being an idiot?" - Unknown drunk man. :eek:
you say not pay to win i say pay to win that is my whats that word ? and Shiny Ball Syndrome i can control my self have to only get paid ones a month
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cant help it i have my bills paid and have money to spend
and again you have your opinion on pay to win i have mine and before your next post about pay to win take a look at this
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Considering nothing you pay for is needed to successfully beat PVE's, what in your definition is P2W actually used for in this game? PVP? If that is the case than watching a bunch of P2W ships destroy one another isn't what I would define as P2W since your P2W ship is being destroyed.
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did you look at the link "The problem is that there is no agreed-upon definition of pay-to-win." what dose this mean ummm every one gets to have their own opinion on what pay to wins means and JHAS nuff said and also bad ship builds can make even the best ship look bad players with no skill can make the best ship look bad i mean think about every one cant even go to one side in stf infected
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You still haven't answered the question!!! What does any of this have to do with playing the game, because none of it is ever needed to play a PVE. So what does a ship like the JHAS have anything to do with P2W in PVW when 99% of every ship on this game can handle those? And again if 2 JHAS's sit in PVP killing one another than their P2W button must not be working for them to well.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
and i did "The problem is that there is no agreed-upon definition of pay-to-win." this is what going on right now you have your opinion on what pay to win means and is and i have mine just because mine is not the same as yours dose not mean im any more wrong then you are right why "there is no agreed-upon definition of pay-to-win." so in all no one is right or wrong
and again bad builds can make even the best ship look bad and bad players can make the best ship look bad
to me pay to win is i get any thing with money or very little grind as i said i can log on a hour or so a week and get the marks i need and done every thing else needed i can get with EC EC i got from selling master keys
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That still doesn't define P2W in a game where none of that matter, when F2P can still accomplish PVE missions with guess what F2P gear. So it still boils down to does P2W only apply to PVP? And if so than bid deal it's not hindering anyone from completing anything other than challenging another player for some stupid accolades or dilithium.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
pvp is a joke no lie but thats due to the dev can you see them giving any thing better then fleet base gear now? imo no because that cut in to their blackhole of resource skin aka fleetbase grind
and i think a lot forget the dilithium exchange some one some where paid money to put dill and zen their for ppl who grind it and not ever pay a dime am i wrong or right on this i seriously like to know?
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Exactly, this is by far one of the best if not the best F2P MMO available atm. The last one I usually played was way closer to what you could come to define as P2W, but even they would argue you can still grind and buy that P2W stuff. Just at the expense of about a lifetime to get it is what they forget to mention!!! Their power creep puts this games to shame when it comes to defining the difference between a P2P and a F2P player.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
and what takes you a what 150 hours? takes me a few clicks with google pay
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again "The problem is that there is no agreed-upon definition of pay-to-win" and in this game that you left nameless if you could grind to get what you say is p2w stuff then are you not contradicting your post?
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Does that google pay buy you a win button over everyone else? When it can you let us know!!!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!