the reason why is there would be no reason to make a fed or Klingon toon when you can make a romulan that gives there own ships plus all the ones from the allies
Am a little bit annoyed as paid some cash for my fed ships for 40-50 and now cant use them with a fed allied Romulan? But i can for all the ones up to 30? Now im not usually a cynic but it smacks of "you must spend money" if i want anything other than the norm, well i paid hard cash and id like to be able to use them .Sucks royally
Am a little bit annoyed as paid some cash for my fed ships for 40-50 and now cant use them with a fed allied Romulan? But i can for all the ones up to 30? Now im not usually a cynic but it smacks of "you must spend money" if i want anything other than the norm, well i paid hard cash and id like to be able to use them .Sucks royally
Can't you just use your Fed Character to use your Fed ships or did they get locked out when you made the Romulan?
What's the point of playing a Romulan to just fly a Federation ship, just make a Fed who looks like a Romulan.
I was once DKnight1000, apparently I had taken my own name so now I'm DKnight0001. If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why. When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
Am a little bit annoyed as paid some cash for my fed ships for 40-50 and now cant use them with a fed allied Romulan? But i can for all the ones up to 30? Now im not usually a cynic but it smacks of "you must spend money" if i want anything other than the norm, well i paid hard cash and id like to be able to use them .Sucks royally
Let's sum it up:
your Federation ships are meant for your Federation characters...it even says so in the description. So Cryptic lets you use the lower level ones as a FREE BONUS on your Romulan characters and you're annoyed because you get a free bonus use out of them?
I think it's time Cryptic reconsiders this policy and removes it altogether when THIS reaction is the result of it and removes the option entirely.
The reason the Fisher-Price ships are available is because you need to be able to get them in order to loot the consoles off them. It also helps to reduce the amount of TRIBBLE they need to churn out that no one will ever look back at later.
But to extend this to real ships would defeat the point of having any other faction but Romulans.
I'm just glad I can take the quad cannons off the Sao Paulo and put it on a D'deridex with phasers.
Dreadnought class. Two times the size, three times the speed. Advanced weaponry. Modified for a minimal crew. Unlike most Federation vessels, it's built solely for combat.
If you want to use Starfleet ships, you roll a Fed toon.
If you want to use KDF ships, you roll a KDF toon.
If you want to use Romulan ships, you roll a Romulan/Reman toon.
It just boggles completely the mind for some out there. You can hear fuses popping in people's heads when presented these basic ideas :P
What if I want to use fed ships (at least at endgame), but don't want to play through the fed content, or use the low-level fed ships?
Not that it bugs me in the slightest in terms of RP/story (95% of why I play the game), but as far as leveling/gameplay goes, playing through the tedious fed storyline, especially the early part with the clunky T1 fed ships (worst T1 ever) is a pain and a half.
If you want to use Starfleet ships, you roll a Fed toon.
If you want to use KDF ships, you roll a KDF toon.
If you want to use Romulan ships, you roll a Romulan/Reman toon.
It just boggles completely the mind for some out there. You can hear fuses popping in people's heads when presented these basic ideas :P
That being said having just got into the D'deridex I'm seriously considering the my T4 Vor'kang until I can get the T5 Romulan ships that I'm happy to fly.
While the DD works well as a Beam boat it looks very wrong.
I was once DKnight1000, apparently I had taken my own name so now I'm DKnight0001. If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why. When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
I play free online, basic I use the game resorces to farm for zen and EC.
I use the Get the free Steam ships for fed. Did Some testing in the past and used that money to buy those Steam ships for cheap.
They can block Zen Fed ships for only Feds like they did for KDF or Romulan ships.
They made the fed dill ships to lv30 access possible for Romulans.
Why not those lv40 dill ships too.
The Steam sale ships Are not paid with zen, but through Steam.
So why block them.
dknight0001 already explained that: there would be no point in making a Federation or Klingon character any more if the Romulans had access to all the ships of their allies in addition to their own Warbirds.
There is a clear list of all the ships the Romulans can use in this Dev Blog:
Whilst I don't mean any offense here, the number of threads pertaining to this sort of thing that pop up are a little worrying.
And by worrying I mean suggestive of the fact that there are, evidentially, a fair number of players who hand over their money without knowing what they are buying.
Seriously - this is almost comprable to walking into a car showroom, seeing a red car that you like/want, yet despite knowing NOTHING about the car beyond the price (engine capacity, running costs, added extras etc) simply saying "I'll take the red one - give me the keys immediately" to the salesperson.
Yet still we have players who remain completely insouciant; handing over their money without sufficent knowledge of what it is they're purchasing. I realise that it might break in to precious 'playing time', but would taking five or ten minutes to actually READ about what one intends to spend their money on too much to ask?
Since companies feel the need to put warnings like these on their screwdriver packages
the answer is "Yes".:(
People don't even stop a minute to think and read about what they're doing but rather spend infintely more time on complaining how what happened is not their fault.
the answer is "Yes".:(
People don't even stop a minute to think and read about what they're doing but rather spend infintely more time on complaining how what happened is not their fault.
I'm horrified that there are warnings like that. Because you know some freak set a precedent by injuring himself doing just that and sued the company.
Than again I've seen a packet of nuts with a warning that the contents contains nuts.
I was once DKnight1000, apparently I had taken my own name so now I'm DKnight0001. If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why. When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
I'm horrified that there are warnings like that. Because you know some freak set a precedent by injuring himself doing just that and sued the company.
As a child I always wondered about the warning in the microwave manual not to dry live animals in it...and when I found out why I was as horrified as I was when I saw that screwdriver warning for the first time.
Than again I've seen a packet of nuts with a warning that the contents contains nuts.
That's actually for a different reason...at least in the EU where I come from.
There's a rule that food must have an ingredient list so people can avoid them if they're allergic against certain ingredients. My mum for example is allergic against certain members of the E-300 series of antioxidants. The stupid part of that is: there's no redundancy clause in that rule leading to this hilarious result.;)
It's doubly funny when the warning reads "may contain trace amounts of nuts"...nuts indeed.
What if I want to use fed ships (at least at endgame), but don't want to play through the fed content, or use the low-level fed ships?
Not that it bugs me in the slightest in terms of RP/story (95% of why I play the game), but as far as leveling/gameplay goes, playing through the tedious fed storyline, especially the early part with the clunky T1 fed ships (worst T1 ever) is a pain and a half.
... And?
Again, if you want to play with Federation, KDF warships, guess what? You need to make Federation, KDF characters and "earn your wings."
I have characters across all groups in this game. Federation, Klingon Empire, KDF-Romulan, Fed-Romulan. I have purchased C-Store & Fleet Ships across these characters. And I don't b**ch and moan about not being able to play allied ships for my Romulan characters. I don't b**ch and moan about my Fed / KDF toons not using Romulan Warbirds.
It makes absolutely no freaking sense whatsoever for the stupid Romulans to use allied ships at any point in time, most especially since the allied groups cannot use Romulan Warbirds anyways. It looks completely stupid, even during level progression. You signed up for the Romulan Navy, brother. Deal with it.
Even during the darkest, most desperate days of the Dominion War, the allied Klingon Empire, Federation, and later Romulan Star Empire were not handing out ships to their allies.
Whilst I don't mean any offense here, the number of threads pertaining to this sort of thing that pop up are a little worrying.
And by worrying I mean suggestive of the fact that there are, evidentially, a fair number of players who hand over their money without knowing what they are buying.
Seriously - this is almost comprable to walking into a car showroom, seeing a red car that you like/want, yet despite knowing NOTHING about the car beyond the price (engine capacity, running costs, added extras etc) simply saying "I'll take the red one - give me the keys immediately" to the salesperson.
Yet still we have players who remain completely insouciant; handing over their money without sufficent knowledge of what it is they're purchasing. I realise that it might break in to precious 'playing time', but would taking five or ten minutes to actually READ about what one intends to spend their money on too much to ask?
Because there are idiots out there, man.
Contrary to what some believe out there in STO, there are multiple factions in STO and there needs to be clear lines and differences between them.
Good thing Cryptic did not give the ability for Romulan Players to use Tier 5 KDF/fed ship designs, though i may not agree for the lower tier KDF/Fed ships that could be played by Romulans, i think they only done that so people could take the Universal Consoles out of them to use for thier Romulan Ships which i believe should be instead be an account unlock when u buy a ship, there should be a universal console tab where u can pick up those things.
It's unfortunate that the game since the era of the lock box have been polluted with cross-faction ships... Jem'hadar, Cardassian, Breen, Tholian ships seems like the Federation/Klingon/Romulan alliance already surrender a long time ago with alot of people using those ships instead of KDF/Fed indigenous ships, and well atleast the Romulan players are busy with the Reman Scimitar class to be concern about cross-faction ships at the moment.
I am a Star Trek fan and i will continue to play STO, but i feel this game just fell off and lost it's roots... they called cross-faction ships very rare to get, but when u go around different Sectors/System maps & STF's/PvP's it's not very hard to notice those cross-faction ships are everywhere.
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Can't you just use your Fed Character to use your Fed ships or did they get locked out when you made the Romulan?
What's the point of playing a Romulan to just fly a Federation ship, just make a Fed who looks like a Romulan.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
Let's sum it up:
your Federation ships are meant for your Federation characters...it even says so in the description. So Cryptic lets you use the lower level ones as a FREE BONUS on your Romulan characters and you're annoyed because you get a free bonus use out of them?
I think it's time Cryptic reconsiders this policy and removes it altogether when THIS reaction is the result of it and removes the option entirely.
But to extend this to real ships would defeat the point of having any other faction but Romulans.
Dreadnought class. Two times the size, three times the speed. Advanced weaponry. Modified for a minimal crew. Unlike most Federation vessels, it's built solely for combat.
If you want to use Starfleet ships, you roll a Fed toon.
If you want to use KDF ships, you roll a KDF toon.
If you want to use Romulan ships, you roll a Romulan/Reman toon.
It just boggles completely the mind for some out there. You can hear fuses popping in people's heads when presented these basic ideas :P
What if I want to use fed ships (at least at endgame), but don't want to play through the fed content, or use the low-level fed ships?
Not that it bugs me in the slightest in terms of RP/story (95% of why I play the game), but as far as leveling/gameplay goes, playing through the tedious fed storyline, especially the early part with the clunky T1 fed ships (worst T1 ever) is a pain and a half.
Then tough.
Life isn't Burger King, you can't always have it your way.
That being said having just got into the D'deridex I'm seriously considering the my T4 Vor'kang until I can get the T5 Romulan ships that I'm happy to fly.
While the DD works well as a Beam boat it looks very wrong.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
Then do DOFF missions.
I use the Get the free Steam ships for fed. Did Some testing in the past and used that money to buy those Steam ships for cheap.
They can block Zen Fed ships for only Feds like they did for KDF or Romulan ships.
They made the fed dill ships to lv30 access possible for Romulans.
Why not those lv40 dill ships too.
The Steam sale ships Are not paid with zen, but through Steam.
So why block them.
dknight0001 already explained that: there would be no point in making a Federation or Klingon character any more if the Romulans had access to all the ships of their allies in addition to their own Warbirds.
There is a clear list of all the ships the Romulans can use in this Dev Blog:
http://sto.perfectworld.com/blog/?p=869551
to be precise this image is of relevance here:
http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/www/ef/05/ef05415bb65026d75946f6b4b4e43a571366399382.jpg
Since companies feel the need to put warnings like these on their screwdriver packages
http://epicfails.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/screwdriver-TRIBBLE.jpg
the answer is "Yes".:(
People don't even stop a minute to think and read about what they're doing but rather spend infintely more time on complaining how what happened is not their fault.
I'm horrified that there are warnings like that. Because you know some freak set a precedent by injuring himself doing just that and sued the company.
Than again I've seen a packet of nuts with a warning that the contents contains nuts.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
As a child I always wondered about the warning in the microwave manual not to dry live animals in it...and when I found out why I was as horrified as I was when I saw that screwdriver warning for the first time.
That's actually for a different reason...at least in the EU where I come from.
There's a rule that food must have an ingredient list so people can avoid them if they're allergic against certain ingredients. My mum for example is allergic against certain members of the E-300 series of antioxidants. The stupid part of that is: there's no redundancy clause in that rule leading to this hilarious result.;)
It's doubly funny when the warning reads "may contain trace amounts of nuts"...nuts indeed.
... And?
Again, if you want to play with Federation, KDF warships, guess what? You need to make Federation, KDF characters and "earn your wings."
I have characters across all groups in this game. Federation, Klingon Empire, KDF-Romulan, Fed-Romulan. I have purchased C-Store & Fleet Ships across these characters. And I don't b**ch and moan about not being able to play allied ships for my Romulan characters. I don't b**ch and moan about my Fed / KDF toons not using Romulan Warbirds.
It makes absolutely no freaking sense whatsoever for the stupid Romulans to use allied ships at any point in time, most especially since the allied groups cannot use Romulan Warbirds anyways. It looks completely stupid, even during level progression. You signed up for the Romulan Navy, brother. Deal with it.
Even during the darkest, most desperate days of the Dominion War, the allied Klingon Empire, Federation, and later Romulan Star Empire were not handing out ships to their allies.
Because there are idiots out there, man.
Contrary to what some believe out there in STO, there are multiple factions in STO and there needs to be clear lines and differences between them.
It's unfortunate that the game since the era of the lock box have been polluted with cross-faction ships... Jem'hadar, Cardassian, Breen, Tholian ships seems like the Federation/Klingon/Romulan alliance already surrender a long time ago with alot of people using those ships instead of KDF/Fed indigenous ships, and well atleast the Romulan players are busy with the Reman Scimitar class to be concern about cross-faction ships at the moment.
I am a Star Trek fan and i will continue to play STO, but i feel this game just fell off and lost it's roots... they called cross-faction ships very rare to get, but when u go around different Sectors/System maps & STF's/PvP's it's not very hard to notice those cross-faction ships are everywhere.