Ok, ALL Romulan ships come with a cloaking device of some sort, except for 1 that is, the new destroyer. All they did was a copy and paste from the regular Federation Temp destroyer to the romulan one and gave it a different skin, Im fine with this except for 2 issues, 1 it needs to come with a battle cloak, and 2 fix the bridge, i know all you did was change all the colors to green on the rom temp bridge but thats not event showing up, I go to the bridge and its the same one colors and all thats on the fed destroyer.
PLEASE FIX THESE!
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Eh, maybe the Tholians stole the cloak or maybe future sensors see all so future ships don't even bother. Its a balance thing that ensure that everyone gets the same ship from the lockbox, just different visuals. Moving on.
Seeing as all the temporal ships are the same two ships, you might as well ask for Rommies to get battle cloaks on Galors or JHDCs.
Yes, it's got a romulan-y name, and a romulan-y skin. But unless you want the Mobius and Krenn to get battle cloaks to, your request doesn't make sense.
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I noticed the temporal copy/paste system myself and yes they need a cloak, not a battle cloak mind you but a cloak.
It's weird that they didn't do that when like practically every romulan fleet Boff comes with a +cloak on it.
Yeah, all the temporal ships are supposed to be the same ship. It's not like the heavy destroyers where you have 3 similar ships, with faction specific modifications.
That's how lockbox & lobi ships are supposed to work.
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Its a Mogai with better stats and a uni Lt. Cmdr and with a Ensign Eng instead of a Ensign Sci and better power (as no crappy singularity cores), you can very well get someone like that with the any T5 ship, better with Fleet ships.
There is nothing to fix, its Yet Another Destroyer that the Romulans are tripping over ... Feds lacked then and KDF only had one (the Nausicaan ships) ... the Daeinos is about in the same position, something that Romulans are tripping over every time they go to the Shipyard.
The only use for the Destroyer is to rip the console off it and put it on the proper ship, the Wells ... its a 800 Lobi console.
LOL, sorry its not a Mogai with better stats. The fleet mogai has 51K hull, universal BOFF station as well, not to mention the great 2 piece console set that it comes with including a battle cloak, singularity powers.
You cant even use the universal rommie ship consoles on the timeship. It is not worth the effort to obtain one. Its a direct copy and paste and has no business taking the warbird name.
I think the best option would be to enable the universal cloaking device console on the temporal ships and give Klingons and Romulans a way to get it. It's still the same ship for everybody, so no problems with the balance and it makes sense, for the simple reason that cloaking is the best way to not alter the timeline when flying around in the past.
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Stop with this nonsense. Your "faction" and ships are already superior to almost everything else. Giving battle cloak to a ship with these stats would be crazy, because it's already powerful enough.
If you can't bear to fly it without cloak, don't get it.
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Ok, ALL Romulan ships come with a cloaking device of some sort, except for 1 that is, the new destroyer. All they did was a copy and paste from the regular Federation Temp destroyer to the romulan one and gave it a different skin, Im fine with this except for 2 issues, 1 it needs to come with a battle cloak, and 2 fix the bridge, i know all you did was change all the colors to green on the rom temp bridge but thats not event showing up, I go to the bridge and its the same one colors and all thats on the fed destroyer.
PLEASE FIX THESE!
Thanks
It's STO's way of being PC, make them equal to the FED and KDF destroyers instead of making the FED and KDF equal to the Romulans and giving all a battle cloak.
The thing is, they shouldn't be "equal" at all: they should all have differences that force you to play to their strengths and weaknesses and encourage original and innovative gameplay.
Not worth flying as half your skills and traits are wasted on a ship with no cloak or Singularity Core... Someone remind me why i'm a Romulan/Reman? :rolleyes:
I am not especially impressed by the looks, only lockbox ships I have is a full set of time ships for my Gorn KDF Sci. The Kdf time ship looks very much like a Dragon's head and the lack of cloak fit with gorn ships, so didn't bother me.
Now those same ships on a Romulan, no way. It is not the lack of a cloak, or the singularity core. They just don't appeal to me, any other lockbox ship at all.
hell I opened boxes and got a few JHEC, I sold them to buy more keys, and Borg Boffs. I was after lobi for consoles anyways.
Cool for those who want them, but personally not to my taste.
That said the Time science ship is a good compliment to the Romulan ship lineup, no doubt about that.
As far as a ship to buy and play, I think the Haakona is much much more interesting.
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The thing is, they shouldn't be "equal" at all: they should all have differences that force you to play to their strengths and weaknesses and encourage original and innovative gameplay.
But instead we got a copypasta.
Of course you get a Copy & paste! It's a lock box ship!
Do you also expect battle cloaking Galors and Jem'Hadar ships? Just because Cryptic were generous enough to give faction specific skins, you all want them to design totally different ships!
Be glad they didn't leave it with just a wells.
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Why? If it's just copy&paste those two romulan and klingon models could have been used in a more efficient way - like for two real klingon and romulan ships. Klingons are waiting since ages to get more ships, romulans are also lacking some more (esp. science) ships. Why wasting models for a pointless masquerade?
I noticed the temporal copy/paste system myself and yes they need a cloak, not a battle cloak mind you but a cloak.
It's weird that they didn't do that when like practically every romulan fleet Boff comes with a +cloak on it.
Just because the Romulans racial trait comes with +Subterfuge, does not really mean that every single Romulan ship from here on out is going to have a cloak. Its a bonus, applied in certain circumstances. There are plenty of Romulan ships to chose from that have the cloak.
And for the people whose bottom-line is that the Romulan ships must all have cloaks.
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There are plenty of Lockbox ships on the horizon. Somehow I do not expect them to have cloaks.
All Romulan ships should have cloaks and singularity cores.
Not all Lockbox Ships are Romulan ships. If a Romulan player decides to fly a ship from another faction that they got via a lockbox then its fair game to not have the features a romulan ship would have.
You cant even use the universal rommie ship consoles on the timeship. It is not worth the effort to obtain one. Its a direct copy and paste and has no business taking the warbird name.
It doesn't take the warbird name...it can't use the Rommie consoles because it's not a warbird!
Maybe the Tholians stole the cloaking device....they stripped the ship of everything else that was technologically advanced.:P
I was surprised there was no cloak ability whatsoever ... even the Adapted Tal Shiar Destroyer/Cruiser respectively have one and that's Romulan technology infused with Borg technology. I somehow doubt that 29th century Romulans would have gotten rid of their biggest strategic advantage so it is more than likely a balancing act by the developers. To that end I'm sure they could have also given the Klingon Korath/Krenn and Romulan R'Mor/Talvath a basic cloak ... and some other ability for the Federation Wells/Mobius.
Having said that ... I like this rationale about the Tholians stripping the cloaking device from the ship
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It doesn't take the warbird name...it can't use the Rommie consoles because it's not a warbird!
that is completely true, can't use Romulan Consoles cause the Romalan Temporal Destroyer and the Romulan Temporal Science Vessel, they are not warbirds at all no warbird in there name. Also if you read up on both says the Romulan Temporal Destroyer is from the mirror universe so just cause the Romulans use cloak in prime universe who's to say that the Romulans in mirror universe never used or created the cloaking technology
no1 notice that romulan temporal ships are just copy pasted fed temporal ships
with all stats and even a warp core.only change is look.
actually you get same ship twice
Having said that ... I like this rationale about the Tholians stripping the cloaking device from the ship
The nice thing about that explanation is you could say the Time ship had the most advanced cloak possible a phased cloak that would allow the ship to pass through objects and possibly fire while cloaked. That way they're giving the impression the Romulans have advanced their technology over the years but you're not unbalancing the game by actually giving players a beefed up cloak.
Besides by then the Romulans should have a phase cloak given they were working on it back in TNG and the federation even had an experimental one , heck the Klingons were trying for one too.
I think the best option would be to enable the universal cloaking device console on the temporal ships and give Klingons and Romulans a way to get it. It's still the same ship for everybody, so no problems with the balance and it makes sense, for the simple reason that cloaking is the best way to not alter the timeline when flying around in the past.
I like this idea... still the Romulan version should have a Singularity Core.
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Yes, it's got a romulan-y name, and a romulan-y skin. But unless you want the Mobius and Krenn to get battle cloaks to, your request doesn't make sense.
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It's weird that they didn't do that when like practically every romulan fleet Boff comes with a +cloak on it.
Yeah, all the temporal ships are supposed to be the same ship. It's not like the heavy destroyers where you have 3 similar ships, with faction specific modifications.
That's how lockbox & lobi ships are supposed to work.
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LOL, sorry its not a Mogai with better stats. The fleet mogai has 51K hull, universal BOFF station as well, not to mention the great 2 piece console set that it comes with including a battle cloak, singularity powers.
You cant even use the universal rommie ship consoles on the timeship. It is not worth the effort to obtain one. Its a direct copy and paste and has no business taking the warbird name.
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If you can't bear to fly it without cloak, don't get it.
It's STO's way of being PC, make them equal to the FED and KDF destroyers instead of making the FED and KDF equal to the Romulans and giving all a battle cloak.
But instead we got a copypasta.
Now those same ships on a Romulan, no way. It is not the lack of a cloak, or the singularity core. They just don't appeal to me, any other lockbox ship at all.
hell I opened boxes and got a few JHEC, I sold them to buy more keys, and Borg Boffs. I was after lobi for consoles anyways.
Cool for those who want them, but personally not to my taste.
That said the Time science ship is a good compliment to the Romulan ship lineup, no doubt about that.
As far as a ship to buy and play, I think the Haakona is much much more interesting.
Of course you get a Copy & paste! It's a lock box ship!
Do you also expect battle cloaking Galors and Jem'Hadar ships? Just because Cryptic were generous enough to give faction specific skins, you all want them to design totally different ships!
Be glad they didn't leave it with just a wells.
The day will not save them. And we own the night.
Why? If it's just copy&paste those two romulan and klingon models could have been used in a more efficient way - like for two real klingon and romulan ships. Klingons are waiting since ages to get more ships, romulans are also lacking some more (esp. science) ships. Why wasting models for a pointless masquerade?
Just because the Romulans racial trait comes with +Subterfuge, does not really mean that every single Romulan ship from here on out is going to have a cloak. Its a bonus, applied in certain circumstances. There are plenty of Romulan ships to chose from that have the cloak.
And for the people whose bottom-line is that the Romulan ships must all have cloaks.
~ Here's be bad news. ~
Prepare to get let down a great deal.
There are plenty of Lockbox ships on the horizon. Somehow I do not expect them to have cloaks.
Not all Lockbox Ships are Romulan ships. If a Romulan player decides to fly a ship from another faction that they got via a lockbox then its fair game to not have the features a romulan ship would have.
I was surprised there was no cloak ability whatsoever ... even the Adapted Tal Shiar Destroyer/Cruiser respectively have one and that's Romulan technology infused with Borg technology. I somehow doubt that 29th century Romulans would have gotten rid of their biggest strategic advantage so it is more than likely a balancing act by the developers. To that end I'm sure they could have also given the Klingon Korath/Krenn and Romulan R'Mor/Talvath a basic cloak ... and some other ability for the Federation Wells/Mobius.
Having said that ... I like this rationale about the Tholians stripping the cloaking device from the ship
that is completely true, can't use Romulan Consoles cause the Romalan Temporal Destroyer and the Romulan Temporal Science Vessel, they are not warbirds at all no warbird in there name. Also if you read up on both says the Romulan Temporal Destroyer is from the mirror universe so just cause the Romulans use cloak in prime universe who's to say that the Romulans in mirror universe never used or created the cloaking technology
with all stats and even a warp core.only change is look.
actually you get same ship twice
The nice thing about that explanation is you could say the Time ship had the most advanced cloak possible a phased cloak that would allow the ship to pass through objects and possibly fire while cloaked. That way they're giving the impression the Romulans have advanced their technology over the years but you're not unbalancing the game by actually giving players a beefed up cloak.
Besides by then the Romulans should have a phase cloak given they were working on it back in TNG and the federation even had an experimental one , heck the Klingons were trying for one too.
Replace the word effort with $,$$$ and I agree w/ this statement so much it's impossible to improve on. Glad I didn't pick it.
Hopefully, one day we will get a revamp of the Temporal Ship Packs to be faction specific. Keep hope alive.
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I like this idea... still the Romulan version should have a Singularity Core.