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Romulan Temporal Vessels...no Singularity?

ztempestztempest Member Posts: 9 Arc User
edited January 2014 in Romulan Discussion
This is...odd.

Okay...the two new Romulan temporal vessels do not come with Singularity cores -- they come with Matter/Anti-Matter cores.

Also...be aware that none of the warbird consoles will work with these vessels.

Bug? Or working as intended?
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    corvallecorvalle Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    ztempest wrote: »
    This is...odd.

    Okay...the two new Romulan temporal vessels do not come with Singularity cores -- they come with Matter/Anti-Matter cores.

    Also...be aware that none of the warbird consoles will work with these vessels.

    Bug? Or working as intended?

    Its intended, and its very sad. No singularity and no CLOAK!

    Just saved me alot of real word $$! Thanx Cryptic :)
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    edtheheroedthehero Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    ztempest wrote: »
    This is...odd.

    Okay...the two new Romulan temporal vessels do not come with Singularity cores -- they come with Matter/Anti-Matter cores.

    Also...be aware that none of the warbird consoles will work with these vessels.

    Bug? Or working as intended?

    Maybe that's the future result of being allied with Feds or KDF. The Rommies assimilate their allies' tech and throw away theirs...:P
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    the1tiggletthe1tigglet Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    That's just as weird as having a lobi only temporal set for ships they can sell in the exchange for EC. They didn't even give a GPL or Dilithium option.
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    otakuboytotakuboyt Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    So, can't use ANY Romulan consoles, no singularity core, no cloak.


    What the heck?

    I could do with out the cloak if it could still use Romulan consoles and singularity core.


    I might still keep an eye out for it, but my WANT on it is lower.

    Still want D'deridex/D'ridthau options for the Adapted Battle Cruiser and the having the D'Kyr would be nice
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    smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    If your observational skills were any good, you would see that the KDF temporal ships have exactly the same stats as the fed ones (no cloak), and this is also the case for these new Romulan ones.

    News flash:

    They are the same ships, with faction specific skins. This was known some time ago.
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    varthelmvarthelm Member Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I fly the KDF one...no cloak and all. It's still awesome :)

    Its appropriated tech anyway but I think part of the issue for some is no VA level Sci warbird. Not yet anyway. The guardian is ok but its RA.
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    lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,846 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Its a carbon copy of the Fed and KDF versions, its hardly surprising they didn't give it cloak or a singularity core.
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    dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited August 2013
    It's not a Romulan Time Ship but a Time Ship that looks Romulan. It can also look Federation or Klingon depending on who opens the box.

    The Ferengi D'Kora doesn't gain Singularity Cores or Cloaking deviced when used by a Romulan, Nor does any of the other Lockbox Ships.

    I am sure they will release a Romulan Science Vessel 3 Pack, with 10 Console slots, Battle Cloak and a Console for each variant. I'd be very grateful if they released a Klingon Science Vessel with Cloak (prefer Battle Cloak) 9 Console slots, a Console and a Fleet variant. Look at how different the Expectations are. Oh and I expect when ever a new ship is released for KDF or Romulans the Federation to complain bitterly about being ignored. Like they did with the Scimitar.

    @the1tigglet
    These are Lockbox/Lobi ships that players sell on the exchange not EC ships. You need to understand the Exchange is a player controlled market. The Zen Store, Dilithium Store, Fleet Store and Rep Stores are the Cryptic controlled markets.

    They changed all the EC ships in the game to Dilithium with the exception of the Runabout.

    My Klingon has every Tier 5 ship available at L40 because they used to cost EC.
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    lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,846 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    It's not a Romulan Time Ship but a Time Ship that looks Romulan. It can also look Federation or Klingon depending on who opens the box.

    The Ferengi D'Kora doesn't gain Singularity Cores or Cloaking deviced when used by a Romulan, Nor does any of the other Lockbox Ships.

    I am sure they will release a Romulan Science Vessel 3 Pack, with 10 Console slots, Battle Cloak and a Console for each variant. I'd be very grateful if they released a Klingon Science Vessel with Cloak (prefer Battle Cloak) 9 Console slots, a Console and a Fleet variant. Look at how different the Expectations are. Oh and I expect when ever a new ship is released for KDF or Romulans the Federation to complain bitterly about being ignored. Like they did with the Scimitar.

    @the1tigglet
    These are Lockbox/Lobi ships that players sell on the exchange not EC ships. You need to understand the Exchange is a player controlled market. The Zen Store, Dilithium Store, Fleet Store and Rep Stores are the Cryptic controlled markets.

    They changed all the EC ships in the game to Dilithium with the exception of the Runabout.

    My Klingon has every Tier 5 ship available at L40 because they used to cost EC.

    KDF really needs some new ships but looks like the RR is their new cash crop...I know making a new ship takes time and they were taking the time to deliver on all of the Romulan ships they promised.

    Since it seems the Scimitar is the *flagship* of the Republic they have no more Romulan ships promised to deliver on. So crossing my fingers the KDF will get some love!
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    cryptkeeper0cryptkeeper0 Member Posts: 989 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    KDF really needs some new ships but looks like the RR is their new cash crop...I know making a new ship takes time and they were taking the time to deliver on all of the Romulan ships they promised.

    Since it seems the Scimitar is the *flagship* of the Republic they have no more Romulan ships promised to deliver on. So crossing my fingers the KDF will get some love!
    I dunno why people still believe this there is a romulan flag ship coming many cryptic interviews have stated this it is not the scimitar.

    I'm a little disappointed it doesn't have singularity core either no cloak understandable but no singularity core... oh well
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    lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,846 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I dunno why people still believe this there is a romulan flag ship coming many cryptic interviews have stated this it is not the scimitar.

    I'm a little disappointed it doesn't have singularity core either no cloak understandable but no singularity core... oh well

    Well that's what I thought till I read this which only came out about a week ago...

    https://twitter.com/CaptainGeko/status/360284250576125952
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    cryptkeeper0cryptkeeper0 Member Posts: 989 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Well that's what I thought till I read this which only came out about a week ago...

    https://twitter.com/CaptainGeko/status/360284250576125952
    That's completely odd because he's basically reversing his statement in a interview were he said it wasn't the Romulan republic's flagship, that ship would be coming out later this year or next year. This is highly disappointing :(
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Obviously the Klingon and Romulan temporal ships originally had an extremely advanced cloaking device, but was removed for some reason. This cloaking device would make it so that you could fire weapons for days without deactivating the cloak, cloak an entire fleet of allies, and be out of phase with reality so nothing can harm the cloaked ship. Obviously the Warp Cores are not Warp Cores from the 29th Century. It is possible that Romulans, Klingons, and the Federation is using similar technology for Warp Cores and their ships are more compatible with Matter/Antimatter Warp Cores than Singularity Warp Cores. The simple fact that I can't solo an elite STF with a temporal ship means that these are heavily butchered temporal ships and no officer from the 29th Century would ever pilot one of these ships.
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    matridunadan1matridunadan1 Member Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    That's completely odd because he's basically reversing his statement in a interview were he said it wasn't the Romulan republic's flagship, that ship would be coming out later this year or next year. This is highly disappointing :(
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    corvallecorvalle Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I stopped believing a single word he says months ago.

    The argument is over, it was stated on TWITTER by Cpt Gecko, the Scimitar IS THE FLAGSHIP

    :) nuff said
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    ruminate00ruminate00 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    KDF really needs some new ships but looks like the RR is their new cash crop...I know making a new ship takes time and they were taking the time to deliver on all of the Romulan ships they promised.

    Since it seems the Scimitar is the *flagship* of the Republic they have no more Romulan ships promised to deliver on. So crossing my fingers the KDF will get some love!

    There is one more known romulan ship that hasn't been released: a t4 tac warbird, presumably with refit, retrofit, and fleet versions

    Geko mentioned it in a recent priority one podcast.
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    goku5030goku5030 Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    corvalle wrote: »
    The argument is over, it was stated on TWITTER by Cpt Gecko, the Scimitar IS THE FLAGSHIP

    :) nuff said

    you do know once lvl cap increase new ships coming right... all other ships will be how can I say forgotten and they make more money on selling more ships :D....tier 6 ships so that means new ships for all factions more money :D spending
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    dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited August 2013
    goku5030 wrote: »
    you do know once lvl cap increase new ships coming right... all other ships will be how can I say forgotten and they make more money on selling more ships :D....tier 6 ships so that means new ships for all factions more money :D spending

    As it stands at Level 50 your an Admiral, what are they going to promote you too?

    Developers have also said there is no good reason to raise the level cap and this games end game is quite sparse so leveling up again, invalidating all those paid for ships... I don't see it happening the backlash would see people quitting in droves.

    They've already blown the obvious chance to increase the level cap with the release of LoR.

    I just don't see it happening.

    Sorry about the Off topic
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    shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    As it stands at Level 50 your an Admiral, what are they going to promote you too?

    President of the UFP. :P :D That'd be fun, having a couple of hundred thousand Presidents running around! :D:P
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    johankreigjohankreig Member Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Well I am glad i saw this, wont bother wit the time ship, as for people moaning there aint enough ships, why do we romulans need anymore when the ones we have are more than adiquate, I for one am glad we dont have loads of ships, the ones I have are fine, and most of them were free.
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    lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,846 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    That's completely odd because he's basically reversing his statement in a interview were he said it wasn't the Romulan republic's flagship, that ship would be coming out later this year or next year. This is highly disappointing :(

    I know I'm upset too, they said it was going to be the lleiset class which means freedom in rihan.

    On what Goki said...there aren't going to be t6 ships unless you can upgrade t5 ships to t6...to many people spent to much money on c-store ships to see them replaced...its bad enough when you own something like the LSVR and see the Vesta come out.

    Do you really think cryptic is going to take the chance to cook the golden goose and shoot themselves in the foot?
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    xepthrixepthri Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Well, a tier 6 might be possible without too much backlash if they allow Tier 5s to be upgraded to a Tier 6 variant with a purchase of some item.. maybe a fleet ship module or something.
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    adverberoadverbero Member Posts: 2,045 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    starkaos wrote: »
    Obviously the Klingon and Romulan temporal ships originally had an extremely advanced cloaking device, but was removed for some reason. This cloaking device would make it so that you could fire weapons for days without deactivating the cloak, cloak an entire fleet of allies, and be out of phase with reality so nothing can harm the cloaked ship. Obviously the Warp Cores are not Warp Cores from the 29th Century. It is possible that Romulans, Klingons, and the Federation is using similar technology for Warp Cores and their ships are more compatible with Matter/Antimatter Warp Cores than Singularity Warp Cores. The simple fact that I can't solo an elite STF with a temporal ship means that these are heavily butchered temporal ships and no officer from the 29th Century would ever pilot one of these ships.

    It does say in the descriptions that these are gutted husks fitted with present day tech so yeah they are for all but the look and a 3 set, just looks
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    Vice, there is Full (just Admiral) and Fleet above that.

    Nut we arent going to see T5 ships, too much power creep and issues with that.

    Not happening, why? becuase an Admiral is you Mission giver, you can;t outrank the guys giving you orders, thats why almost all games keep you at least one rank below the quest/mission givers so they hold some kind of in game canon authority over you

    And besides, Admiral and up is a vacancy driven promotion, you can't have evrybody being Fleet admials
    lianthelia wrote: »
    I know I'm upset too, they said it was going to be the lleiset class which means freedom in rihan.

    On what Goki said...there aren't going to be t6 ships unless you can upgrade t5 ships to t6...to many people spent to much money on c-store ships to see them replaced...its bad enough when you own something like the LSVR and see the Vesta come out.

    Do you really think cryptic is going to take the chance to cook the golden goose and shoot themselves in the foot?

    I wouldn;t mind as long as there is a method by which my Fleet Assault cruiser can be upped to Whatever the T6 may be ( if implimented ) , be that a purchase that adds consoles, Boff slots, Weapon slots or a change to shield and hull modifiers
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    lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,846 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    We don't really need t6...to make t6 ships I would say means you're adding more to tier 5's...

    More weapons...balance is bad enough now but could you imagine more weapons? How would a cruiser work 5/5? 4/4 with beams are hard to work and require skill to keep all of the power drain from making it a dps loss...everyone hates torpedos and being slower than everything else makes it hard to make torpedos work.

    Do you make escorts 5/4 or 5/3...would sci be 4/4 then? Moving to tier 6 would open so many cans of worms if it were to pass...we really don't need it. I don't remember if it was here or in another thread someone said as mmo's progress they don't get more and more slots at endgame...they get better gear.

    Making Mk XIII, XIV, and maybe XV gear would be much easier to do and less problematic than making t6 ships.

    I know its a wild guess but if I had to guess one of the reasons why they're looking for console ideas on twitter is because unique consoles are one of the few things they can do to make a ship unique. Lets face it there is only so many Boff combinations you can do without going completely crazy. Feds especially suffer from this since they have so many more ships that fit so many sub roles within the main roles.

    Unique and cool(Not specifically OP) consoles would be a way to set ships apart even if they had similar or identical boff setups.
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    adverberoadverbero Member Posts: 2,045 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    We don't really need t6...to make t6 ships I would say means you're adding more to tier 5's...

    More weapons...balance is bad enough now but could you imagine more weapons? How would a cruiser work 5/5? 4/4 with beams are hard to work and require skill to keep all of the power drain from making it a dps loss...everyone hates torpedos and being slower than everything else makes it hard to make torpedos work.

    Do you make escorts 5/4 or 5/3...would sci be 4/4 then? Moving to tier 6 would open so many cans of worms if it were to pass...we really don't need it. I don't remember if it was here or in another thread someone said as mmo's progress they don't get more and more slots at endgame...they get better gear.

    Making Mk XIII, XIV, and maybe XV gear would be much easier to do and less problematic than making t6 ships.

    I know its a wild guess but if I had to guess one of the reasons why they're looking for console ideas on twitter is because unique consoles are one of the few things they can do to make a ship unique. Lets face it there is only so many Boff combinations you can do without going completely crazy. Feds especially suffer from this since they have so many more ships that fit so many sub roles within the main roles.

    Unique and cool(Not specifically OP) consoles would be a way to set ships apart even if they had similar or identical boff setups.

    Its a fair point, but you encounter the same issue with gear, take Adapted MACO mkXII, i had to buy 6 MkXII things through rep store to get that full set, if they make a MkXIII will i have to buy another 6?

    My backing would go behind the multiple ship command system, as this would give you more firepower, AND, make old ships more used, how many of us have something expensive we aren't using because we got a new toy?
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    hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    That's completely odd because he's basically reversing his statement in a interview were he said it wasn't the Romulan republic's flagship, that ship would be coming out later this year or next year. This is highly disappointing :(

    It's Geko. What did you expect? This is the same idi... erm PERSON... that thinks beams are WaD, saw being asked if beam energy drain could be reduced is said person asking if beams can become as powerful as cannons, and also thinks that Power Insulators reduce weapon power drain. Need more be said?

    As for the on-topic comment:

    None of those 6 ships are unique. They are all identical to each other ship with that designation, merely a new skin and new ship tag. So instead of 6 unique ships, you have two unique ships each with 3 different skins and 7 different ship designators (USS, ISS, AKS, IKS, IRW, RRW, ARW).
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    lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,846 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    adverbero wrote: »
    Its a fair point, but you encounter the same issue with gear, take Adapted MACO mkXII, i had to buy 6 MkXII things through rep store to get that full set, if they make a MkXIII will i have to buy another 6?

    My backing would go behind the multiple ship command system, as this would give you more firepower, AND, make old ships more used, how many of us have something expensive we aren't using because we got a new toy?

    Thats how MMO's go...you build shiny gear...you move to the next raid and build even better gear...do that a few more times and then you get new levels and soon that gear is obsolete.

    Making Mk XII gear obsolete is better option than ships that people payed for obsolete...

    Would it really make old ships used? Maybe if someone doesn't own any c-store ships...or if they put in a unique system that requires older ships.
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    atalossataloss Member Posts: 563 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    johankreig wrote: »
    Well I am glad i saw this, wont bother wit the time ship, as for people moaning there aint enough ships, why do we romulans need anymore when the ones we have are more than adiquate, I for one am glad we dont have loads of ships, the ones I have are fine, and most of them were free.

    I agree. We need more balance with what we already have.
    lianthelia wrote: »
    I know I'm upset too, they said it was going to be the lleiset class which means freedom in rihan.

    On what Goki said...there aren't going to be Tier 6 ships unless you can upgrade t5 ships to t6...to many people spent to much money on c-store ships to see them replaced...its bad enough when you own something like the LSVR and see the Vesta come out.

    Do you really think cryptic is going to take the chance to cook the golden goose and shoot themselves in the foot?

    Being desperate to make money makes people do crazy things. I personally have brought a couple of zen ships (my most current being the Atrox). With every new "shiny thing" they have an opportunity to make money.
    xepthri wrote: »
    Well, a tier 6 might be possible without too much backlash if they allow Tier 5s to be upgraded to a Tier 6 variant with a purchase of some item.. maybe a fleet ship module or something.


    That's a great idea, but what "new things" will we get when we upgrade the ship? I'd hate to see Tier 6 ships have the same issues and redundancy as the Tier 5 ships.
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    adverberoadverbero Member Posts: 2,045 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Thats how MMO's go...you build shiny gear...you move to the next raid and build even better gear...do that a few more times and then you get new levels and soon that gear is obsolete.

    Making Mk XII gear obsolete is better option than ships that people payed for obsolete...

    Would it really make old ships used? Maybe if someone doesn't own any c-store ships...or if they put in a unique system that requires older ships.

    That would still be a pretty massive middle finger to owners of the sets , or those who bought stuff on exchange for millions of EC , but you can't please anyone i guess

    I would imagine that if any ability to have a 'follower' ship comes in, it would probably limit it so your second ship can't be the same type as your primary, as in you can't double up on escorts becuase of the overwhelming firepower, and you can't double up on Cruisers as you could tank until oblivion

    Such a system would get me to actually use one my escorts, currently they are sat in some great big starbase mothball yard not being used
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