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KDF Orion Slaver HP nerf NOT in patch notes.

badname834854badname834854 Member Posts: 1,186 Arc User
edited July 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Guys - how did this stealth nerf not make it in the notes? It's such a fundamental change to them it's fishy at best, incompetent at worst to NOT have a mention of this fact in the patch notes. Advanced slavers are a dilithium item, and buyers need to be able to make informed decisions.

Please, ffs stop it with the stealth nerfs.

(Mods: this is not related to the loot table nerf, so please don't mash this with the other slaver threads - this is more about the fact it wasn't in the patch notes when it should be.)
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  • aetam1aetam1 Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If it is not in the patch notes have you considered that it could be a bug? Have you reported it?
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  • badname834854badname834854 Member Posts: 1,186 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    aetam1 wrote: »
    If it is not in the patch notes have you considered that it could be a bug? Have you reported it?

    I s'pose I could, but in my experience A) Bug reports tend to be ignored it would seem and B) Given the persistent history of stleath nerfs/changes, call me crazy for not automatically assuming "positive intent".
  • tonyalmeida2tonyalmeida2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    aetam1 wrote: »
    If it is not in the patch notes have you considered that it could be a bug? Have you reported it?

    Silly, bugs that don't give players advantages, are working as intended.
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  • vocmcpvocmcp Member Posts: 1,134 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    And this is exactly why no one knows what's intended and what's bugged. That is a serious issue. Please stop the stealth updates!

    Bran, please stress that issue with your team! Again there are numerous fixes that didn't make it into patch notes. That's not acceptable. Over the long term there can only be few reasons for this:

    - you (meaning Cryptic) don't want to
    - you don't care
    - you're not capable of doing so

    All three of those reasons don't put Cryptic in a very good light. I won't ask you to take your pick but please fix it!
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  • jtoney3448jtoney3448 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It is in the update notes. Its part of the pet vet ranks. At 2 stars they have normal their health and dmg that they had before, anything past 2 is upgrade over the old ones. Pets gain health/dmg the more stars they have.

    Sadly the carrier stuff is a total fubar mess right now though. Cryptic couldnt code their way out of a digital paper bag.
  • badname834854badname834854 Member Posts: 1,186 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    jtoney3448 wrote: »
    It is in the update notes. Its part of the pet vet ranks. At 2 stars they have normal their health and dmg that they had before, anything past 2 is upgrade over the old ones. Pets gain health/dmg the more stars they have.

    False. At 5 stars they are still below their original HP. Hence the posting.
    Sadly the carrier stuff is a total fubar mess right now though. Cryptic couldnt code their way out of a digital paper bag.

    True. (sadly). However at times they do great work - but I feel like everything involving the slaver "adjustments" is just surreptitious and little more than a hamfisted attempt to reduce the supply of contraband by reducing their drop rate and seemingly discouraging the actual usage of slavers in-general.
  • omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    badname834854 wrote: »
    False. At 5 stars they are still below their original HP. Hence the posting.



    True. (sadly). However at times they do great work - but I feel like everything involving the slaver "adjustments" is just surreptitious.

    Yep, majorly below even at 5 star, not that it should be below even at no stars, it should have gotten a major buff, all the fighters should in the hp department.

    As I've said before the vet system is a waste for none frigates.
  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2013
    This is the third thing (which I know of) that this patch changed which wasn't in the patch notes.

    This, the Tour cool down being added and though not a nerf they fixed the Risian Tribble which was causing the 'syrup effect' when trying to take off whilst it was active. None of it in the patch notes. I'm seriously starting to worry about how little attention is being paid to writing the patch notes.
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  • aarons9aarons9 Member Posts: 961
    edited July 2013
    nothing about the orion slavers was in the patch notes..

    according to the notes.
    "Orion Slavers now have a better chance to raid enemy vessels during combat. However, their rewards have been decreased in order to keep the average value of goods approximately the same as it was before."

    the last part, same as before should read 1/10 of what it was before.
    [12:35] Vessel Two of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 225232 (271723) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Lance.
    [12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
  • tonyalmeida2tonyalmeida2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Has the replicator shortcut on the rep and fleet tabs always been there?
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  • omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I don't think so.
  • tonyalmeida2tonyalmeida2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    omegaphallic wrote: »
    I don't think so.

    TBH that's a good thing, I don't even know why that wasn't put in the patch notes.

    Someone should start a thread in General titled: Stealth Nerf/Changes Patch Notes.
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  • marcel314marcel314 Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The health nerf was mentioned in the tribble patch notes of the 23.7.2013. I guess Branflakes just failed to wrote that in the holodeck notes.
  • badname834854badname834854 Member Posts: 1,186 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    marcel314 wrote: »
    The health nerf was mentioned in the tribble patch notes of the 23.7.2013. I guess Branflakes just failed to wrote that in the holodeck notes.

    I just saw that. The thing is, they're now weaker than other pets. So much for "in line", right? Is this "working as intended"?

    And yes -we should make a thread called "Stealth Nerfs/Ninja Patches". I wonder if Bran would sticky it for us?
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    badname834854 wrote: »
    I just saw that. The thing is, they're now weaker than other pets. So much for "in line", right? Is this "working as intended"?

    And yes -we should make a thread called "Stealth Nerfs/Ninja Patches". I wonder if Bran would sticky it for us?

    With a new toon just accessing the Vo'Quv and using the standard hangar units available, the Slavers are indeed quite flaky in their toughness and get destroyed quickly. Even standard To'Duj fighters were lasting longer. If using Slavers, you better have very high Aux Power since you need that to drastically cut down the hangar respawn cooldowns. You can't replace Slavers fast enough since they're destroyed the moment someone points a phaser array in their direction.

    So... they nerfed the looting ability and hullpoints of the Slavers. I'm not sure what kind of crack Cryptic is smoking.
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  • kublakhan81kublakhan81 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    What I don't understand is why mess with the drop percentages at all? Are people really reaping that many commodities that a nerf was in order?

    I don't understand Cryptic's thought process on the matter. Those of us that bought the Slavers paid 60,000+ dilithium for them and they're basically making them useless now.

    What's up with that, Cryptic?
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