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Should Cryptic extend the Aug 2nd Deadline by 2 weeks?

stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
Due to a recent glitch that took a while to patch up, that did not allow the Risa "Flying High" race course markers to properly appear, many players was out of luck for about two weeks worth of gameplay.

Meaning they could not complete the race courses for about 2 weeks, thus no pearls :(

I feel Cryptic should extend the Aug 2nd deadline for the Risian Corvette by two weeks to accommodate those unfortunate players that were denied 2 weeks worth of daily racing due to the glitch.

What say you all?

Link to "Flying High" Mission BUG <---- Click on link and then click on image to enlarge.
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  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    stark2k wrote: »
    Due to a recent glitch that took a while to patch up, that did not allow the Risa "Flying High" race course markers to properly appear, many players was out of luck for about two weeks worth of gameplay.

    Meaning they could not complete the race courses for about 2 weeks, thus no pearls :(...

    Glitch? I've been playing 'Flying High' since the start of the event without any issues... So there doesn't appear to be a need to extend it.
  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I'm not affected, I'm going to get my ship on Sunday on two chars. But I say yes, by all means. It wouldn't hurt anybody and if there was a bug it's the right thing to do.
    Glitch? I've been playing 'Flying High' since the start of the event without any issues... So there doesn't appear to be a need to extend it.

    Not being affected =/= bug doesn't exist.

    Patch Notes that claim that bug was fixed.
    Resolved an edge case that resulted in a very small number of players receiving a version of "Flying High" they could not complete.
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  • hachanshachans Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I know there have been issues with people trying to get the mission while not starting it (like you would with any other daily) in order to play the mission twice in a row the next day instead. Doing so would make the courses not appear for the first of the two missions, forcing you to drop it. Not sure if working as intended or not but that's the only instance when I've seen or heard something about the courses not appearing.
  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    NO no reason to keep extending offers and rewards for all the cry babies. I got mine today. never had a glitch one .... its just not fare to the people who take the time to accomplish these sorts of things in the allotted time. the rewards are no longer special when that happens and make them worthless in my view.
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  • caldannachcaldannach Member Posts: 485 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    No they shouldn't
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  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Glitch? I've been playing 'Flying High' since the start of the event without any issues... So there doesn't appear to be a need to extend it.

    did you even click on my link?
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The Corvette is a free gift for wasting time on a new map. There's not even a challenge involved the game that gifts the items needed for the ship, unlike the winter event Breen cruiser.

    Everyone should be gifted the ship regardless of their ability to complete the 'quest' needed for the award, it's the only way to be fair as some haven't been able to do the quest since the day the event launched.
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  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Resolved an edge case that resulted in a very small number of players receiving a version of "Flying High" they could not complete. - Patch Note

    So the glitch did exist -> they call it an edge case

    Those small number of players as the patch note state, should be given some kind of accommodation for it. As I stated at the beginning, it was up to two weeks that these small amounts of players were effected.

    In the spirit of fair gameplay, Cryptic should extend the deadline by two weeks, afterall the vessel is free, its not like they are going to lose money or something.
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  • malkarrismalkarris Member Posts: 797 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Since there was a bug that prevented a number of people from completing the mission for longer than they could recover it, then yes Cryptic should at least extend the event. If there was some way to see which people had this problem, then the better way would be to credit those people with what they would have missed, but I don't think that's possible.
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  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    yes I clicked the link. and I could make a equally compelling pic to try and cry my way into more time to get a project done. stand next to the event chick take a sceen shot with the map open. then que up the mission take a screen shot.. then cut out the blank map and past it over the other to make it look like the mission is active but the map is bugged. pictures used to be worth a 1,000 words not anymore. pretty much worthless.
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  • titus1608titus1608 Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I had the same problem with one of my chars and had to drop the mission. Waited 1 day and could complete it again the next day.

    If there really were some people who waited 2 weeks for cryptic to fix it and didn't take any actions to get it back to work themself then I would say: It's their problem not cryptics and the deadline shouldn't be extended.
  • jjumetleyjjumetley Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Not sure if that's what you're talking about but the bug also occurred during my gameplay. There where no tracks showing up...

    ...all you had to do was turn off your floater and then turn it on back again.
  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    icsairguns wrote: »
    NO no reason to keep extending offers and rewards for all the cry babies. I got mine today. never had a glitch one .... its just not fare to the people who take the time to accomplish these sorts of things in the allotted time. the rewards are no longer special when that happens and make them worthless in my view.

    What part of FREE you don't understand? This is not an entitlement issue.

    icsairguns -> "I did mine in the prescribed time, so those of you who had a glitch up to two weeks, well tough luck and stop being cry babies !"

    Grow up will you. It's not like you were entitled to it from the beginning because you never glitched out. Count your blessing that you didn't.

    I am pretty sure if you lucked out like those unfortunate few, you'll be the very first one posting in this thread about how they should extend it as a courtesy to the player base.
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  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    titus1608 wrote: »
    If there really were some people who waited 2 weeks for cryptic to fix it and didn't take any actions to get it back to work themself then I would say: It's their problem not cryptics and the deadline shouldn't be extended.

    How can they had fixed it if it was from Cryptic end, many players did numerous things to try to GLITCH OUT, but failed. So for some it was not possible to undo until a proper patch was in place. It was only when it was brought to the attention of the Devs via screenshots over at the BUG segment of the forums, when it was finally acknowledged and address.

    This one was not undone by mere taking off your floater and slapping it back in place, or even changing instances.
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  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    titus1608 wrote: »
    I had the same problem with one of my chars and had to drop the mission. Waited 1 day and could complete it again the next day.

    If there really were some people who waited 2 weeks for cryptic to fix it and didn't take any actions to get it back to work themself then I would say: It's their problem not cryptics and the deadline shouldn't be extended.

    no because the deadline is still far enough away they could make it if they hustled. it ends aug 2nd that's 14 days away. on top of week its already been fixed if they had been doing it they would and could still complete it. 24 hours in a day 20 hour cool down 5 min to complete so every 20.05 hours they can do it. for the 40 pearls 672 pearls and 528 pearls for the time that has past since it was fixed. puts them well over the mark for the free ship. if they ran the mission every 20 hours. now if they don't have the time or the will to do it im sorry. the 1st few years this game was running I was able to play but I wanted too. does that mean I should get all the stuff that is now gone?

    there fault my fault don't matter we are all in the same boat on this . but to extend it is wrong.
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  • kamenriderzero1kamenriderzero1 Member Posts: 906 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    You have another month. Even if you started today, you've got time to finish it. you can even skip a day or two if you feel like it, and still be done before patch on the 15.
    Everywhere I look, people are screaming about how bad Cryptic is.
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  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    jjumetley wrote: »
    ...all you had to do was turn off your floater and then turn it on back again.

    which did not work for those small amount of players, so it was stuck-ville for about two weeks.
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  • edtheheroedthehero Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    icsairguns wrote: »
    NO no reason to keep extending offers and rewards for all the cry babies. I got mine today. never had a glitch one .... its just not fare to the people who take the time to accomplish these sorts of things in the allotted time. the rewards are no longer special when that happens and make them worthless in my view.

    Extending the deadline doesn't mean people will get a free ride. They still have to do the mission daily to acquire the 1,000 pearls, no discounts are requested. An extension would be a consideration to those affected by the mission bug. It shouldn't be a problem to extend the deadline until the same date the event ends, August 15.

    Honestly, the fact that you're complaining over this request when (1) you already have yours and (2) no one will get it easier than you did even with an extension, just makes your complaint look like trolling.
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  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    You have another month. Even if you started today, you've got time to finish it. you can even skip a day or two if you feel like it, and still be done before patch on the 15.

    Thought the Deadline for the Risian Corvette offer was August 2nd and not the 15th? - according to the blog.
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  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    stark2k wrote: »

    I am pretty sure if you lucked out like those unfortunate few, you'll be the very first one posting in this thread about how they should extend it as a courtesy to the player base.

    and you would be wrong AGAIN
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    stark2k wrote: »
    Due to a recent glitch that took a while to patch up, that did not allow the Risa "Flying High" race course markers to properly appear, many players was out of luck for about two weeks worth of gameplay.

    Meaning they could not complete the race courses for about 2 weeks, thus no pearls :(

    I feel Cryptic should extend the Aug 2nd deadline for the Risian Corvette by two weeks to accommodate those unfortunate players that were denied 2 weeks worth of daily racing due to the glitch.

    What say you all?

    Link to "Flying High" Mission BUG <---- Click on link and then click on image to enlarge.

    You know i know they know they should


    But you know and i know and everyone else knows...cryptic wont
  • titus1608titus1608 Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    stark2k wrote: »
    How can they had fixed it if it was from Cryptic end, many players did numerous things to try to GLITCH OUT, but failed. So for some it was not possible to undo until a proper patch was in place. It was only when it was brought to the attention of the Devs via screenshots over at the BUG segment of the forums, when it was finally acknowledged and address.

    This one was not undone by mere taking off your floater and slapping it back in place, or even changing instances.

    My problem was I had to do 3 out of 4 courses, but I only had 2 of them appear.

    Never found a third that day and I looked on the map and looked by flying around.

    Dropped the Mission as I said and the next day I had again 4 courses to chose from.
  • kamenriderzero1kamenriderzero1 Member Posts: 906 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    they can't seem to make up thier minds. if the map runs to the 15, logicly flying high should two.
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  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    stark2k wrote: »
    What part of FREE you don't understand? This is not an entitlement issue. QUOTE]

    Remember! Captains who participate in the "Flying High!" event 25 times before August 2nd, 2013 (35 days from the start of the event) will glide their way to a FREE Risian corvette starship! Stats on the ship have been posted here. http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=928221


    its Not free its earned buy a task. . them saying free is like saying buy one get one free. you paying for both .
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  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    stark2k wrote: »
    ...
    So the glitch did exist -> they call it an edge case

    Those small number of players as the patch note state, should be given some kind of accommodation for it. As I stated at the beginning, it was up to two weeks that these small amounts of players were effected.

    In the spirit of fair gameplay, Cryptic should extend the deadline by two weeks, afterall the vessel is free, its not like they are going to lose money or something.

    If you carefully read the TOS statement, you will find a little clause stating that Cryptic is not responsible for games bugs...

    There was a case years ago where 'Train Up' didn't work for BO skill training, and I wasted several expensive BOs purchased off of the Exchange because of this... I asked for compensation for the lose due to the 'bug' and didn't get it...

    If they changed their 'policy' just for this event, it would set a bad precedent, and open up a big can of worms over bug compensation...
  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    icsairguns wrote: »
    no because the deadline is still far enough away they could make it if they hustled. it ends aug 2nd that's 14 days away. on top of week its already been fixed if they had been doing it they would and could still complete it. 24 hours in a day 20 hour cool down 5 min to complete so every 20.05 hours they can do it. for the 40 pearls 672 pearls and 528 pearls for the time that has past since it was fixed. puts them well over the mark for the free ship. if they ran the mission every 20 hours. now if they don't have the time or the will to do it im sorry. the 1st few years this game was running I was able to play but I wanted too. does that mean I should get all the stuff that is now gone?

    I take it you don't have a job or a family to raise? No offense - but doing it by the exact numbers and calculations as you put it is near impossible for the normal citizen that works 40hrs a week and have a family.

    Its a great thing if you are a kid at home and on summer vacation though.
    icsairguns wrote: »
    there fault my fault don't matter we are all in the same boat on this . but to extend it is wrong.

    Its wrong because?

    Seriously; It is pointless to say "its wrong to extend," and the only reason people have to say no, is because they did it in the prescribed time and never once glitched out, so now they feel they are entitled to something that was basically given for free to begin with.
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  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    35 days to complete it take off 14 days for 2 weeks it was messed up. multiple 24 hour 21 days 504 hours divided by 20 = 25.2 chances to run the mission multiply by the 40 pearls it rewards 1008 pearls and that's with no other pearls added like via lobi store.
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  • edperezedperez Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If you carefully read the TOS statement, you will find a little clause stating that Cryptic is not responsible for games bugs...

    There was a case years ago where 'Train Up' didn't work for BO skill training, and I wasted several expensive BOs purchased off of the Exchange because of this... I asked for compensation for the lose due to the 'bug' and didn't get it...

    If they changed their 'policy' just for this event, it would set a bad precedent, and open up a big can of worms over bug compensation...

    So you believe that doing something to improve customer satisfaction and correct a game error (not customer error) sets a bad precedent for the company? I hope a marketing career is not in your future plans...
  • johnny111971johnny111971 Member Posts: 1,300 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If my math is correct, any player effected by this would not be able to receive a corvette (35 Days - 14 Days (June 27 (launch) - July 10 (fix) = 21 Days ... short of the minumum 25 days needed to obtain the requisite number of pearls. (Short by 160)

    The issue was a glitch/bug/what not that was out of the players control.... for that reason alone, I will agree with the OP that the event should be extended, by 7 days (not 2 weeks, although I see the logic)... 7 days adds sufficient time to make up the shortfall, assuming you and the others effected have made an effort to continue to do the mission daily once it was fixed.

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  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    like the 2 or 3 weeks some starbases were set back when they decided to make base doff unusable and not distinguishing marks from others. not refunding money from exchange or giving anything for the setbacks or wasted and lost money ec and fleet. things happen.

    and you really should stop assuming things like my age and status because you are really bad it .

    just so happens my situation allows me certain perks. is that ok with you or is it again unfair? should I be limited in the amount of time I can devote to play time just because you cant?
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