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The Romumans have their own Reputation System, how about the Feds and KDF?

thegreendragoon1thegreendragoon1 Member Posts: 1,872 Arc User
edited July 2013 in Reputation System
Right now, there are a lot of cool sets and unique gear themed after the faction to which the rep system is attributed. This is especially good for Romulans who can go after high-grade gear thematically appropriate to their faction.

I would like to propose something similar for the Federation and KDF, a faction specific reputation system. Each faction would have their own specific reputation system with marks obtained through fighting group engagements against the opposing faction. (Fed vs. KDF) Romulans would have access to the rep system of their allies. PvP could also be a good source for faction marks.

Rewards would be appropriate to their respective faction such as a rapid-reload photon torpedo launcher, high-energy photon injectors, 360-degree phase cannons or a high-capacity phaser/disruptor dual beam bank. Maybe even a photonic cannon. These are just some ideas, but they're things that could be thematically specific to their respective factions.

I know there are many players who want to keep their ships using thematic equipment and this would allow them much more flexibility.

If I wanted to take it even further, I'd say you could tie faction reputation to the admiralty ranks. Leveling to 50 would get a character to captain, but faction reputation would progress them through the admiralty. Don't think Cryptic would go for it though.

So thoughts? Comments?
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  • midniteshadow7midniteshadow7 Member Posts: 787 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I like the idea, it would also work with the release of any future factions as well!
  • midniteshadow7midniteshadow7 Member Posts: 787 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    On a side note, I would make it that the only contributions are marks, experience and energy credits... no more of the batteries etc!
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yeeeeeeeees. I want a photonic cannon!
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    This has been mentioned by the devs so yes its a very real possibility.

    You dont even need to have it focus on the war if you dont want and i would probably shy away from that, as the war seems to be taking a back seat to greater threats.

    Just doing work that the feds would consider appropriate to their cause (diplomacy, exploration, defence) is all good.

    same with klingons. any action taken to defend or expand the empire.

    I doubt they will do anything with changing the rank structure. people would probably get uppity at changing it now.
  • similonsimilon Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I seem to remember similar ideas being discussed in ask cryptics or something...

    I like the idea of a faction reputation for faction equipment. Well, I like the idea of getting faction specific themed end-game equipment, I'm still uncertain on the reputation system..

    It seems since the inclusion of adapted sets, KDF no longer have set supremacy :P
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  • stonedpenguinstonedpenguin Member Posts: 57
    edited July 2013
    Maco and Honor Guard not enough? There also superior Ground/Space to Romulan. Then theres also Fleet gear thats better than Romulan.

    I'd offer a different point of view, bring Romulan rep gear on par with other endgame sets.
  • thegreendragoon1thegreendragoon1 Member Posts: 1,872 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Maco and Honor Guard not enough? There also superior Ground/Space to Romulan. Then theres also Fleet gear thats better than Romulan.

    I'd offer a different point of view, bring Romulan rep gear on par with other endgame sets.

    Maco and Honor Guard is still very Borg focused. There are sets that boost Tetryon and Plasma damage, but nothing that boosts phaser or disruptor despite the fact that there are several ships that due to special powers/features are basicly locked into these weapons types. Also, all the reputation torpedoes are plasma based.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Oh, and this would be a great way to do something with exploration.
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  • canis36canis36 Member Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I like this idea as well. I'd also think that PvP should be included as a source of marks - perhaps the largest source as some sort of STF-equivalent in terms of time-input to mark output - but with other options for obtaining those marks like an addition to the exploration missions: something like 10 marks for the cluster specific repeatable missions with a 60 minute cd on the missions to make up for the fact that the daily awards dilithium and has a damned inconvenient 24 hour timer along with the Klingons only have 4 clusters as opposed to the 10 or so the Federation have.

    Of course I'd be worried about them gutting the dilithium rewards from PvP so...
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,162 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If its account unlock then yes... if not... then no ty. we have enough reps.
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  • vonhellstingvonhellsting Member Posts: 543 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Or at the very least they could give the Romulans an Elite Strike team outfit like the other factions. Come on I don't want to wear a Federation Maco or a Klingon Honor guard outfit I AM ROMULAN and darn well proud of it!
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  • wjeremy16wjeremy16 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If they did this, they could make the t5 power the "Fleet admiral" idea they've wanted to do.

    it'd allow us to keep level 50 the max level and get the whole Fleet admiral idea into the game.

    If they did this, I'd be all for this rep system, if not. I'll pass. I'd rather not have another rep to grind up on a dozen or so chars.
  • nalonalo Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yeah I find it more than silly that Romulan have to build rep with romulans after all you have already done for the cause.Should have been that you build rep with your faction choice at least imho.:cool:
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    wjeremy16 wrote: »
    If they did this, they could make the t5 power the "Fleet admiral" idea they've wanted to do.

    it'd allow us to keep level 50 the max level and get the whole Fleet admiral idea into the game.

    If they did this, I'd be all for this rep system, if not. I'll pass. I'd rather not have another rep to grind up on a dozen or so chars.

    I'd love for them to take this idea and expand it. Make Captain the level 50 rank, and then link all of the admiral ranks to tiers of rep.

    It would get rid of the thousands of admirals all over. Especially given how much people hate the rep system and keep talking about not doing it with all their characters.
  • canis36canis36 Member Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I'd love for them to take this idea and expand it. Make Captain the level 50 rank, and then link all of the admiral ranks to tiers of rep.

    It would get rid of the thousands of admirals all over. Especially given how much people hate the rep system and keep talking about not doing it with all their characters.

    Biggest barrier to doing this is that most of the ships and weapons/equipment restriction are tied to rank, not actual level. The Devs could work around this, but I have no idea if it would be as simple as changing the text in a few places or if there would have to be a lot of code re-arranging.

    I'll also admit that I'm a little intrigued by one of the speculative "this is one thing we're looking at..." that one of the devs elaborated on when asked about how they'd handle Fleet, Lockbox, and Z-Store ships if the level cap was raised.
  • thegreendragoon1thegreendragoon1 Member Posts: 1,872 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    canis36 wrote: »
    Biggest barrier to doing this is that most of the ships and weapons/equipment restriction are tied to rank, not actual level. The Devs could work around this, but I have no idea if it would be as simple as changing the text in a few places or if there would have to be a lot of code re-arranging.

    I'll also admit that I'm a little intrigued by one of the speculative "this is one thing we're looking at..." that one of the devs elaborated on when asked about how they'd handle Fleet, Lockbox, and Z-Store ships if the level cap was raised.

    Don't take that last bit too seriously, because there is NOOO way the devs would every demote that many players. That bit was mostly a pie-in-the-sky idea.

    As to a future level cap increase, I expect it will involve ways to upgrade our current ships vs. new ships.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Factions like Section 31, Department of Temporal Investigations, Daystrom Institute, etc is what I orginally though Reputation to be before Season 7. For the Section 31 rep, I figured it could have a counter organization to it where they believe the end never justifies the means. In other words, the complete opposite of Section 31. So getting a rank in one would make it harder to get a rank in the other. Might be able to get Tier 1 in this heroic and moral organization and Section 31, but you couldn't get Tier 5 in both. I would imagine Captains like Kirk and Picard would join this counter organization to Section 31. Section 31 and the counter organization could define what type of Captain you are. Of course with these reps, they would never be account since one alt could be a backstabbing Section 31 operative while the other is an honest Captain.
  • hasukurobihasukurobi Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    thay8472 wrote: »
    If its account unlock then yes... if not... then no ty. we have enough reps.

    ^Amen! I am having enough "fun" grinding this up on my Romulan characters considering I never have enough Expertise for 3 Reps let alone 4 or 5.
  • carasucia83carasucia83 Member Posts: 568 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If these systems were added in the same way as Rom/Omega/Tholian, then it could go some way to revitalizing this war we're supposed to be having.

    'Oh no moar grind???' issues aside, Incorporated in the Fed/KDF rep would be the following repeatable maps in the queues:

    Tier 0:

    Breaking the planet, Starbase 24, the minefields, (all FvK PVE maps) etc converted to Rep thing for level 50s. At lower levels they would still give the rewards they do now but at level 50, Dilithium would be accompanied by an average of 70-80 Fed/KDF/Fleet Marks in a 'Choice of' box. This is already how Borg STF's work - average of 70-80 marks + dil.

    All current Fleet mark only events would have to have a level 50 only version put in and would give Own Faction/Fleet mark choice.

    Inverse of the above for Enemy Faction/Fleet marks, eg Starbase Fleet Attack, Destroy Freighters, sabotage starbase, invade colony, etc etc.

    No Win would give Fed/KDF/Fleet and would remain unchanged, as would any that already give Nukara and Romulan marks.

    Adding marks to PvP at level 50 - Winners get 20 choice of fed/kdf marks, losers 10 or all get 50 in a 3 map automatic wrapper that is given upon entering the first map (no mission contact required).

    Ker'rat - Choice of fed/kdf Marks awarded (marks for level 50s only) in the same way gear is rewarded currently.


    Tier 3:

    50 mark PvPvE map unlock (completion required on both Fed and KDF rep). Ker'rat type system but with 5 v 5, 10 v 10 and 20 v 20 options with choice of KDF/Fed marks. Enemy could be randomized in the same way they are for fleet defense etc.

    All Tier 0 maps remain available.


    Tier 5:

    Unlock Elite PvP 5v5 queues with wrappers that give choice of all types of available marks. This would require a 50 mark project to be completed at Tier 5 in ALL reps. The idea behind this is to ultimately create a public PvP queue for players with all the best gear - fleet stuff and player skill aside.

    All Tier 0 maps remain available.

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    I'm not touching on gear here, just the system through which we get it. Expertise would have to receive a bump on all level 50 PvE encounters to support any more rep stuff too.
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  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If they do faction reps, you could add the Aegis set to the Federation Rep.


    Aegis Space Set: in Mk X, XI, and XII versions.
    *Current Shield
    *Deflector
    *Engines

    Aegis Combat Equipment:
    *Aegis Quantum Torpedo
    *Aegis Phasers
    *Aegis Console

    Aegis Ground Set:
    *Armor
    *Personal Shield
    *Phaser Weapon

    Rename the Klingon Aegis set to something more Klingon in nature (perhaps Klingon Vanguard). Instead of Phasers, it would be disruptors and Photon in place of Quantum.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,484 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Or at the very least they could give the Romulans an Elite Strike team outfit like the other factions. Come on I don't want to wear a Federation Maco or a Klingon Honor guard outfit I AM ROMULAN and darn well proud of it!

    Been thinking about a Romulan ground set myself lately. Kind of a shame it is not available.

    As for federation or klingon reputation, despite not being thrilled about another grind i would not mind seeing these. Small reputations though 4 tiers max.
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