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Why do romulans need to gain romulan rep?
banatine
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I have no problem going through the re stuff once more, and game balance obviously is a factor but i just find the situation amusing.
I mean, we ARE romulan. through the course of our story we helped start the colonisation of new romulus, we helped the diplomatic efforts that ensured the alliance between the reublic and the federation/klingons, we save the planet from an Elachi invasion, and killed Hakeev and cripple the Tal Shiar... What more do we need to do to earn our own peoples trust?
You'd thin that we woul have at least earned a few romulan marks as part of the campaign... but oh well
I mean, we ARE romulan. through the course of our story we helped start the colonisation of new romulus, we helped the diplomatic efforts that ensured the alliance between the reublic and the federation/klingons, we save the planet from an Elachi invasion, and killed Hakeev and cripple the Tal Shiar... What more do we need to do to earn our own peoples trust?
You'd thin that we woul have at least earned a few romulan marks as part of the campaign... but oh well
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Your not earning trust or bribing with marks you are building something out of sight and securing the region with the rep system. The more that group can build and the more secure it is the better the gear you get. Think of it as your own personal fleet holding, you build up your character's in game New Romulus or Omega Force, not you are gaining access to something existing for X amount of marks.
Your contributions also allow the Republic to build up a new scientific an industiral basis from which you then get the technology the Rep System unlocks...those weapons, shields engines etc. won't build themselves you know. And we do know that really complex technology can't just be replicated..it needs to be built.;)
Well for one, you probably never saved the entire planet from an army of body-snatching aliens?
I mean, why doesn't the romulan storyline award just a few romulan marks? It does kinda make you feel like all the contributions you made to the romulan republic become meaningless. Did D'tan just forget that you saved the planet? cuz that sounds like something that's worthy of recognition.
Would it really be that wrong for a romulan to get a slight 'head start' in the romulan rep system?
again, i'm not saying that the system is stupid. I'm just saying i find it kind of amusing that a romulan hero who has helped so much already is treated no differantly to any johnny-come-lately starfleet/KDF officer.
No...there were five lights.
Borg missions should reward omega marks, missions killing klingons should reward Fed marks, same with Klingons and Tal' Shiar should reward fleet marks.
But just like Romulans having to pick an ally, not having Romulan fleets or fleetbases it was all done based on what was easiest for them, not what makes the most sense of even what players wanted or didn't want.
Klingons AND Fed can both get iconic weapons and ship gear, but romulans are forced to use TRIBBLE from other factions, or do that one Reman Episode many times to get Romulan Disruptor Pistols and Rifles. Seriously?
The best thing they can do is add in the art assets for romulan iconic weapons into the normal loot/reward table in weaker 'standard' versions. This solely makes the Romulans feel less then a faction. From Lt on both the Fed and Klingon sides I can get iconic factional gear easily, why punish Romulans?
But the best solution would be like the previous poster said, stop being lazy and add Fed and Kling Faction Reputation and not penalize brave and loyal Officers of the Romulan Republic who EVERY DAY put their lives on the line for the republic.
I can get behind this suggestion.
Not sure if the posters mentioning this are already aware, but Romulans can purchase new Republic-style Plasma weapons from the Flotilla/New Romulus Command. These weapons aren't available from loot drops or mission rewards. Consider that the Republic seems to be branching away from the Star Empire in terms of technological development, given their preference for fitting new ships with Plasma weaponry. That said, you can't go wrong with a classic 23rd-century style Romulan Disruptor...
While I would like my Romulan characters to have a head-start on their Rep, I can understand that for game longevity and balance reasons that they would choose not to do this. Hopefully I will have my yet-to-be-unlocked Reman outfitted with Reman rep gear before Christmas.
I'm not one of those advocating for Romulan players to be excused from Romulan rep grinding (i.e., to get Romulan Mark or Romulan Reputation from early storyline missions) (but I do think it might be nice for Romulan players to have access to the same advanced Romulan gear available without Romulan Reputation Projects, replacing those rewards with doffs, boffs, and other things Romulan that non-Romulans can't get), nor for Romulan Rep to be replaced by something else for Romulans (what's it going to be? Fed/Klink Rep in which you do the exact same projects and get the exact same rewards with different names and skins pasted onto them? *snort*), but I do have to do this ...
Do those vendors at the Command Center or on the flotilla sell Mk XI and Mk XII Purple gear?
No?
Then they're not selling "the advanced gear of my people" (or however it was phrased earlier).
As much as I would like to give some of my characters the ability to skip some tedium, I do not think that it would be wise. Purely due to a (perhaps misplaced) sense of fairness.
I do think all factions should have easier access to faction specific/faction themed equipment... There is always fleet weapons, but not everybody can just drop into a developed fleet and burn through provisions. Although even those would not be STOs interpretation of Romulan weaponry... Remember when they just used regular disruptors, like everybody else?
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The Romulans are no different. I've posted on this in the past, but I believe Romulan captains Kits should reflect their Romulan-ness. Specifically, Romulan Turrets and Mortars and Support Drones should A) look unique, and
There's another real problem too. The war between KDF and Fed, how does that not rip the Romulan Republic into a civil war? I feel sorry for D'tan when it comes to sorting that little bit out.
Just like how Qu'nos and ESD are supplied by task forces Omega and Nukara with more re-generators than they will ever need.
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Take, for example, one of the early Fed missions - you ferry a diplomat from Vulcan to P'jem. When you get to P'jem, there's a squadron of Klingon ships in orbit, insisting on inspecting every ship passing by to check for Undine infiltrators (and they're certain the diplomat is One Of THEM!). You have to fight them off to reach the planet.
Now, had this been an actual war, there would have been an entire fleet to assault a world so close to the heart of the Federation. There would have been landing craft, garrisons, an honest-to-Q fight going on. Or, alternatively, they might have just carpet-bombed the planet from orbit, eliminating any signs of life (and thus, any possibility the world might have been used against them). Three groups of three frigates isn't a "war" - it's a skirmish.
On the Klingon side, there's a relatively early mission to attack the Utopia Planitia shipyards, in orbit of Mars. Now, you're attacking the Sol System, one orbit out from the Federation Council itself, as well as Starfleet facilities like the Academy and ESD. Do you send a massive attack fleet, to decimate your foes and wreck their facilities forever? No, you send one lieutenant, commanding a small attack frigate, and whatever forces he can convince to go with him from the facility he's just finished defending. That's not an assault - that's a raid.
No, at that point in the storyline, B'vat is doing his best to fan the flames of war - but since the Klingon tutorial involves the discommendation of the House of Torg, one of the most influential pro-war voices out there, and since Starfleet doesn't like wars in the first place, once B'vat's out of the picture things calm down considerably, as they should under the circumstances. J'mpok doesn't re-sign the Khitomer Accords immediately, of course, because he's probably still mad about the whole Council-condemning-invasion-of-Gorn-space thing, but neither is it really a "war" as such - the very existence of Task Group Omega tells us that.
Task Force Omega, as I understand it, is outside of both sides-their entire focus is the Borg. They've said "To heck with you and your scrapping, the Borg are too important." Remember that joining them is invitation only, and that invite doesn't come till you're in the highest ranks of both sides. To everyone else, they(it seems) don't exist.