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resoundingenvoy
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Is there any way to kick people that join a task force and then walk away?
Crystalline catastrophe is maybe one of the better way to get nukkar marks. 3minuets ago is not the first time I've tried it and counted a grand total of three or four players actually moving.
Crystalline catastrophe is maybe one of the better way to get nukkar marks. 3minuets ago is not the first time I've tried it and counted a grand total of three or four players actually moving.
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I am tired of my ship not responding to my commands and just sitting still, rubber-banding, or just flying in a straight line taking damage till I die - sometimes I even get dropped by the server and receive a 1 hour ban. I am trying to work on fleet projects, and it is a waste of my time to not be able to fully participate in the events I join and only earning half or less of the marks I should get.
No, not at this time. Most methods that involve players kicking other players is likely to be abused and because of different playstyles (healers not shooting, etc.), also possiblity of keyboard/mouse scripting, there is really no good way to detect if a player is really AFK.
SCE ADVISORY NOTICE: Improper Impulse Engine maintenance can result in REAR THRUSTER LEAKAGE. ALWAYS have your work inspected by another qualified officer.
This is really not the thread for this question.
There could be many things causing this: Server being overloaded, traffic over your network and the networks between you and Cryptic's servers.
Try searching/posting in the "PC, Network, and Other Technical Issues" area.
SCE ADVISORY NOTICE: Improper Impulse Engine maintenance can result in REAR THRUSTER LEAKAGE. ALWAYS have your work inspected by another qualified officer.
I can imagine Life getting in the way, even after they hit accept. But seeing the same people stand around and do nothing every time I see them tells me they are just leeching rewards not going AFK because of a phone call from work or attending to a child.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
And what about torp boats in ESTFs? You know, the ones that sit 8k out and bombard gateways/transformers with torpedoes? Those don't move much, and I can see one sitting still for a minute. That's not horribly fair to them.
Starting today, can people posting in the 'Kill the AFKers' witch hunt thread epidemic keep a log of the percentage of maps they play that contain an AFKer?
I'll start:
Definately less than 1/100
Probably less than 1/1000
I don't like it either, but there are far more serious issues we could be ranting about.
No. Your fun makes everyone else's fun wrong by default.
So from 100 Games i got so ca 3-4 Games where i can confirm That a Player
is over the whole Playtime in AFK Mode.
It is no problem when a Team Member maybe got an Telephone Call or the Postman or whatever come...but he should write in chat "i am short afk" than it is it ok.
But for the PPL the realy come just for doing nothing and for here self say
"Ah let they doe the stuff alone the main thing is I get my Reward"
For this PPL i have no Pardon.Yes they should be punished.
A Kicksystem where 4 Players must vote for kicking the Afk Player is not the right Solution.
There are than PPL who will abuse this System.
Once right and fair Solution where maybe when Cryptic intigrate a inactivity Counter
based on Weopons.
Also the Counter starts on the STF and when over an X-amount of time no Weopons where fired from the Player Ship than he trigger.
If the Counter has triggered for this Person than he get no Reward for the STF.
Yes we are all just made of Stardust.
After a certain time the Stardust starts even to think.
Is that not fantastic?
if the player is afk for 3-5 min in pve, then the team will get the option of kick.
then the server can check if the player have done anything on the map and then kick them out !!
You have right i forgot about this.... there are a few Reward Mission that you can solve without firing a single Shoot.
The Azure Nebula Mission yes i remember you can solve it, when all Team Members just hiding under the asteroids out of the detection Range from the Tholian Ships.
You can sit the whole Playtime over on this place and just disable the Tractor Beams
and freeing the Ships without a battle Encounter.
Ok than the Inactivity Counter should be get based on all Activity.
(but exclude the Moving it can be abused to drive away from the battlefield)
Well that sounds good too after the Inactivity Counter has triggered,maybe a simply Autokick will doe the Job as well in this case,and it is programmatically not to heavy to include as an Player based Kicksystem.
Yes we are all just made of Stardust.
After a certain time the Stardust starts even to think.
Is that not fantastic?
Just a side note here. Are fighters just remote weapons platforms for the Carrier, as the carrier receives credit for the DPS done by the fighters?
And what about these? Are these just 'Fighters' as well?
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Andorian_Assault_Set#Console_-_Universal_-_Wing_Cannon_Platforms
This console allows you to deploy two Wing Cannon Platforms which will orbit your ship and fire on your Wing Cannons' targets.
More like:
Get kicked/no rewards unless you
*Take some mix that is 10% of overall mix of outgoing AND incoming damage.
Such as
*Do at least 10% of outgoing damage AND take at least 10% of incoming damage, OR
*Do at least 20% of outgoing damage, OR
*Do at least 1% of outgoing damage and take at least 19% of incoming damage, OR
*Take at least 20% of incoming damage
You get the picture.
Then someone who uses 1% impulse to move backwards far from the battle won't be able to AFK and get anything.
That said, Azure Nebula Rescue can EABOD. Any map that has a paltry reward AND both a hard cap AND time cap isn't worth it and stinks of manipulation.
You're forgetting that missions can be beaten with no shots fired from some or all players. These players may be very actively participating, but their roles do not involve getting into any fights.
The fact of the matter is that the "AFK Epidemic" is grossly exaggerated. Of the hundreds of STFs I have run, I have seen a genuine AFKer maybe a half a dozen times, and he was never important enough to actually jeopardize the mission. Just TBR a few spheres over to him and leave them there.
Even Carriers utilize some form of action. Sending commands to their pets, activating bridge officer skills, refreshing their defeated pets, and transporting crew on other ships and other such actions all can be recorded by some activity monitor. Basing activity on just one activity is meaningless. It is better to record multiple forms of activity. The minimum activity threshold should be adjusted for each queue. So someone protecting the gate in KSE should get the reward just because they are on an excellent team. Of course if a bunch of ships get through and they didn't even try to stop them should forfeit their reward.
The entirety of end game content in STO is based around a constant endless grind. You can max a new character from level 1-50 in a matter of 5 days or less, and once you do all you're faced with is the same grind based gameplay. Games like Freelancer knew that in order to keep players engaged and wanting to continue playing the game for long periods that the gameplay had to be much more dynamic.
Continuing using Freelancer as an example that game came out in 2003, and even a little of ten years later there are still players that play the game. Why are people still playing it all these years later? The simple answer is because one day you can be a trader, the next a pirate, an explorer, and the next day turn around and be a soldier fighting pirates and confiscating contraband. It's not designed solely around specific classes or professions and in combination with the dynamic gameplay that's why it has such lasting power.
If Cryptic truly wants to diminish or completely solve the AFK population, then the first step in that would be to really reconsider a lot of the fundamentals of the game that just simply don't work. When a game feels like a job more than entertainment people are going to come and go, find ways to put reward over play, and in the end when it doesn't change they will eventually leave. Right now Cryptic seems perfectly happy with players coming and going and eventually leaving for good, but eventually they're going to run out of new players.
The longer a player is with a game the more probability they will end up spending money on the game, and that amount to increase over time. But in order for that to happen you have to have content and dynamic gameplay for players to want to stay and enjoy.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=10959001&postcount=16
I'm with the Op! I mean - I've been around for a while (I played for longer than I've been a memeber of these forums), and it's only been recently that people experience these 'afkers.' I'm definitely not one of them but I do on occasion make a mistake as everyone does... So I just had a thought... "Maybe" I had a thought...
IF PlayerX interacts with NPCx, then PlayerXTotalNPCx = +1, else -1
IF PlayerX attacks NPCx, then PlayerXNPCx = +1, else -1
IF PlayerXTotalNPCx is less than Z then Loot1PlayerX = 0, Else Loot1PlayerX=1
Maybe, just maybe - when loot drops the rate for people whom do not do anything, not even fire their weapon - should be a 'factor' in if they get any loot at all <VBG>
IF PlayerXTotalNPC99 is less than X then FinalLoot = 0
Maybe... Just maybe, when the end reward comes along, if you've either just run around in circles, not firing your weapon 'you' shouldn't get much if any loot!!
Maybe... <VBEG>
Basically I'm saying that if a player doesn't interact at all with the system/mission - then they don't get any loot at all!!! Now I'm thinking that if this does get implemented - then maybe those whom do interact should have a bit higher scale of loot since they did it with less people.
I have a plan for some of those 'afk'er' and posted a while back:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...1&postcount=16
"I'm with the Op! I mean - I've been around for a while (I played for longer than I've been a memeber of these forums), and it's only been recently that people experience these 'afkers.' I'm definitely not one of them but I do on occasion make a mistake as everyone does... So I just had a thought... "Maybe" I had a thought...
IF PlayerX interacts with NPCx, then PlayerXTotalNPCx = +1, else -1
IF PlayerX attacks NPCx, then PlayerXNPCx = +1, else -1
IF PlayerXTotalNPCx is less than Z then Loot1PlayerX = 0, Else Loot1PlayerX=1
Maybe, just maybe - when loot drops the rate for people whom do not do anything, not even fire their weapon - should be a 'factor' in if they get any loot at all <VBG>
IF PlayerXTotalNPC99 is less than X then FinalLoot = 0
Maybe... Just maybe, when the end reward comes along, if you've either just run around in circles, not firing your weapon 'you' shouldn't get much if any loot!!
Maybe... <VBEG>"
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Basically I'm saying that if a player doesn't interact at all with the system/mission - then they don't get any loot at all!!! Now I'm thinking that if this does get implemented - then maybe those whom do interact should have a bit higher scale of loot since they did it with less people.
Yes, but those same one's being told by mommy to take out the trash NOW, won't be clicking "Need" on every loot roll.
And btw, ppl have a right to ***** about jackass afk'ers, leeching off the efforts of others. Let me guess, you're one of them and that's why you're defending this? "DOH!!!!"
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Considering all you need to do is have a way that can endlessly macro <CTRL> & <Q> and you can suck up the loot without doing anything.
I like the idea of +1 for each action you perform. Attacking Enemies creates a +1 for each enemy you attack when they die. Talking to an NPC or interacting with an object.
Now you let the player know where they are. no reward, low reward, moderate reward & full reward.
For example in Mine Trap, you need to interact in section 1, section 2 & section 3 to get the full reward. So you can't AFK halfway through.
How about something simple. If you do nothing for 2 minutes (Not including those parts where your waiting on the countdown) you get kicked and locked out. If you press Auto-run 2 minutes later you will be kicked. Rolling on loot won't be counted.
I can not think of any situation in game where you do nothing for 2 minutes.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.