When I saw the thread title I had low expectations of what was going to be discussed.
This however is a great idea.
Why not just have Q throw you into some unknown corner of the galaxy? One of those "lessons" he was known for? When you can't hack it anymore he can warp you back.
Time spent could have scaling rewards, maybe a new rare ship for each faction. Special weapons or sets (ground or space).
When I saw the thread title I had low expectations of what was going to be discussed.
This however is a great idea.
Why not just have Q throw you into some unknown corner of the galaxy? One of those "lessons" he was known for? When you can't hack it anymore he can warp you back.
Time spent could have scaling rewards, maybe a new rare ship for each faction. Special weapons or sets (ground or space).
What I disliked the most about the TNG episode, Q Who?, was that Q actually had pity and rescued Picard from his folly. The rest of that season would have been a superior version of what the Voyager series set out to do.
I like the basic concept in bold. However, I also agree with the suggestion that player's choose to take on what being whisked away has to offer. Taking up the challenge of exploring and getting to a Starbase again.
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One setback with this would be that, for VA's at least, it would be difficult to explain how we jump from being 'lost' to STF's/Fleet Alerts in familiar space etc.
Well, those would be greyed out on the UI, of course. Make the player fight for his chance to get back to his warm and cosy dilithium and FM grinding habitat !
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I like it. No stfs, and you can transwarp all you want but it will still take 3 weeks to a month to find that way home etc. The path home can have you run into species good and bad and you have to find resources to survive. I would commit a character to this. I wouldn't want it to be easy either.
You'd have to make the rewards pretty significant to get players to sacrifice a character for it, I think. A rare Mk XII item set would suffice for me
But how would they make this? It's an excellent idea, yeah, but what would go on? Who would you fight?
already covered bits of that.
as well as quests on the journey ofc there would persistent factions (i envisage say maybe 3 or 4) who would either attack or aid you possible depending on quest choices and working on the basis of a hidden from view reputation interaction.
at least one would be basically malevolent (except possibly to Klingons) and so you'd be fighting an advancing war against them as you progressed to the end (much like the Borg in Voyager).
you may also have basically "pirates" and 2 or more of the factions would have their own interpersonal relationships (read potential war or peace) with each other which may necessitate you "picking a side"...hell, you're chosen side could even turn out to be "the wrong one" half way through...
One quick way to get Cryptic/PWE interested would be to monetize it. Have a transwarp token available for TRIBBLE Zen. Then if you decide you can't hack the trip or need to recall your character for some reason, buy the token, activate it, and it returns you to Known Space.
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Anyway, you're drastically underestimating the amount of work that would be required.
If you haven't already tried it, go play Cryptic's new Neverwinter MMO for a bit; it should give you an idea of where their development skills are at relative to an undertaking like this.
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Anyway, you're drastically underestimating the amount of work that would be required.
actually that theme runs through the entire Star Trek franchise (and Voyager was basically an attempt to copy the original series format)...and trust me i'm not overestimating the amount of work....i'm not unfamiliar with such things...
this idea basically reuses a lot of pre-existing game mechanics...just with some actually fairly minor twisting and creative scripting...
One quick way to get Cryptic/PWE interested would be to monetize it.
like the Adventure Packs in Champions Online ? maybe...but imho something like this should be a baseline part of a Star Trek game.
especially if it's suitably randomizable and repeatable.
i would offer a counter proposition: alongside the randomly generated planets, both "half and halfs" and "exploration cluster", the main scripted arc(s) and the factions...hold a competition for Foundry authors to make additional planets to pad out the content (which suitable rewards ofc). it could even be an ongoing thing and new type of base Foundary project specifically tied in to this mission format...and the players ? well they wouldn't know what they were going to get (except that it would be of winning standard)...which is kinda half the fun :P
1st. We all have transwarp drive and once you get to VA you also have Slipstream. If janeway had we we have, Voyager would have been at best a mini-series. Within the canon of the game, travel times are plummeting. Within one of the Lore chips, it talks about "Eat breakfast at DS9 and being on Cetus III in time for a baseball game." via the transwarp network.
2nd the logistics. my inventory. my supplies. my doffs now halfway across the galaxy. If this was some sort of seperated section of the game map, with rapid back and forth travel (IE Gamma Orionas and Pela) that would be much more reasonable.
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This however is a great idea.
Why not just have Q throw you into some unknown corner of the galaxy? One of those "lessons" he was known for? When you can't hack it anymore he can warp you back.
Time spent could have scaling rewards, maybe a new rare ship for each faction. Special weapons or sets (ground or space).
What I disliked the most about the TNG episode, Q Who?, was that Q actually had pity and rescued Picard from his folly. The rest of that season would have been a superior version of what the Voyager series set out to do.
I like the basic concept in bold. However, I also agree with the suggestion that player's choose to take on what being whisked away has to offer. Taking up the challenge of exploring and getting to a Starbase again.
Well, those would be greyed out on the UI, of course. Make the player fight for his chance to get back to his warm and cosy dilithium and FM grinding habitat !
But how would they make this? It's an excellent idea, yeah, but what would go on? Who would you fight?
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as well as quests on the journey ofc there would persistent factions (i envisage say maybe 3 or 4) who would either attack or aid you possible depending on quest choices and working on the basis of a hidden from view reputation interaction.
at least one would be basically malevolent (except possibly to Klingons) and so you'd be fighting an advancing war against them as you progressed to the end (much like the Borg in Voyager).
you may also have basically "pirates" and 2 or more of the factions would have their own interpersonal relationships (read potential war or peace) with each other which may necessitate you "picking a side"...hell, you're chosen side could even turn out to be "the wrong one" half way through...
Romulans: left one homeworld, lost another, third time's the charm?
Anyway, you're drastically underestimating the amount of work that would be required.
If you haven't already tried it, go play Cryptic's new Neverwinter MMO for a bit; it should give you an idea of where their development skills are at relative to an undertaking like this.
this idea basically reuses a lot of pre-existing game mechanics...just with some actually fairly minor twisting and creative scripting...
like the Adventure Packs in Champions Online ? maybe...but imho something like this should be a baseline part of a Star Trek game.
especially if it's suitably randomizable and repeatable.
i would offer a counter proposition: alongside the randomly generated planets, both "half and halfs" and "exploration cluster", the main scripted arc(s) and the factions...hold a competition for Foundry authors to make additional planets to pad out the content (which suitable rewards ofc). it could even be an ongoing thing and new type of base Foundary project specifically tied in to this mission format...and the players ? well they wouldn't know what they were going to get (except that it would be of winning standard)...which is kinda half the fun :P
1st. We all have transwarp drive and once you get to VA you also have Slipstream. If janeway had we we have, Voyager would have been at best a mini-series. Within the canon of the game, travel times are plummeting. Within one of the Lore chips, it talks about "Eat breakfast at DS9 and being on Cetus III in time for a baseball game." via the transwarp network.
2nd the logistics. my inventory. my supplies. my doffs now halfway across the galaxy. If this was some sort of seperated section of the game map, with rapid back and forth travel (IE Gamma Orionas and Pela) that would be much more reasonable.
What's my position?
That people should know what they're screaming about!
(paraphrased from "The Newsroom)