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Tier V Carrior for Feds

princeofjudahprinceofjudah Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2013 in Federation Discussion
Are there any plans to add a tier V carrier to the Federation? I mean a TRUE carrier, not an escort. I am shocked to discover that there isn't one for the Feds. I am also extremely unhappy about this since I love carrier vessels. I'm new to STO and new to Star Trek as a whole. Am I missing something? Is the Tier IV Carrier meant to be played in PVP? if not, PLEASE add a TRUE tier V carrier as soon as possible... I'm sure there are a tonne of other players who would agree with me.
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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    There is a T5 carrier, it's called the Atrox.
  • jestersagejestersage Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    princeofjudah wrote: »
    Are there any plans to add a tier V carrier to the Federation? I mean a TRUE carrier, not an escort. I am shocked to discover that there isn't one for the Feds. I am also extremely unhappy about this since I love carrier vessels. I'm new to STO and new to Star Trek as a whole. Am I missing something? Is the Tier IV Carrier meant to be played in PVP? if not, PLEASE add a TRUE tier V carrier as soon as possible... I'm sure there are a tonne of other players who would agree with me.

    There is one. it's call the Atrox. However I didn't pick it because
    a) No frigate - have less freedom in attack choice until you unlock elite scorpion
    b) TOO science focused. I didn't picked it because APB is an important buff skill for pets, which can only be slot onced on Atrox.

    BTW, There are no tier IV carrier on Fed or RR - only KDF.
  • princeofjudahprinceofjudah Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Wait there is? The Atrox is for the Feds? Sorry nevermind then.
  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited July 2013
    Yeah, and Feds have a few cross-faction options as well (Recluse, Jem'hadar Dreadnought, etc).
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  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited July 2013
    Or just roll Klingon and enjoy the Glory that is the free T5 Vo'Quv. Try out it's Mirror version for more engineering.
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  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    There is a T5 carrier, it's called the Atrox.

    He could rephrase it to: "no 10-console carrier". ;)

    I'm still hoping for a fleet version of the Atrox alongside some truely unique Atrox pets (preferrable something sturdy).

    Of course it has the stalkers, but even the Elite versions are subpar to both universal fighter hangars out there.
  • katanic123katanic123 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Id like to see the jupitor dreadnought as a fed carrier, its big enough an ugly enough. Its also the kind of ship that would suit 'broad side' port an starboard weapon config
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  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited July 2013
    fraghul2000 wrote: »
    He could rephrase it to: "no 10-console carrier". ;)

    I'm still hoping for a fleet version of the Atrox alongside some truely unique Atrox pets (preferrable something sturdy).

    Of course it has the stalkers, but even the Elite versions are subpar to both universal fighter hangars out there.

    Both sides are waiting on Fleet versions of some of our Z-Store ships.

    Fleet Gal X, Fleet Atrox. What about a Fleet Kar'fi, Fleet Garumba etc. It will happen eventually.
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    And I'd like to see the basic Typhoon design redone in playable quality and repurposed as a Federation Dreadnought Carrier.

    Typhoon Dreadnought Carrier

    42,000 hull
    1.05 shield modifier
    6.5 turn rate

    Weapons: 4 fore, 4 aft

    Commander Engineer
    Lieutenant Commander Tactical
    Lieutenant Commander Science
    Lieutenant Engineer

    Consoles: 4 engineering, 3 tactical, 3 science

    Two hangars: comes standard with one Peregrine, one Danube

    Unique frigate hangar option: Lightning-class light escort
  • bermanatorbermanator Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    And I'd like to see the basic Typhoon design redone in playable quality and repurposed as a Federation Dreadnought Carrier.

    Typhoon Dreadnought Carrier

    42,000 hull
    1.05 shield modifier
    6.5 turn rate

    Weapons: 4 fore, 4 aft

    Commander Engineer
    Lieutenant Commander Tactical
    Lieutenant Commander Science
    Lieutenant Engineer

    Consoles: 4 engineering, 3 tactical, 3 science

    Two hangars: comes standard with one Peregrine, one Danube

    Unique frigate hangar option: Lightning-class light escort

    This. I would buy this. Although I might prefer a universal lieutenant BOFF slot instead of Lieutenant Eng, but that might be asking for too much. Not sure what your Lightning-class light escort would be...
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  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited July 2013
    dknight0001 wrote: »
    Or just roll Klingon and enjoy the Glory that is the free T5 Vo'Quv. Try out it's Mirror version for more engineering.

    Naaaaah, that might be asking too much. Better to just take KDF concepts and paste them onto the Federation :(
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  • novapolaris#2925 novapolaris
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    edited July 2013
    Hmm. If they did add a playable Typhoon, it could stand to use some variants, such as a Fleet of 2409 version. However, I don't know if it would be best implemented as a counter to the Scimitar. I would much rather it be its own ship.
  • jadensecurajadensecura Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    And I'd like to see the basic Typhoon design redone in playable quality and repurposed as a Federation Dreadnought Carrier.

    Typhoon Dreadnought Carrier

    42,000 hull
    1.05 shield modifier
    6.5 turn rate

    Weapons: 4 fore, 4 aft

    Commander Engineer
    Lieutenant Commander Tactical
    Lieutenant Commander Science
    Lieutenant Engineer

    Consoles: 4 engineering, 3 tactical, 3 science

    Two hangars: comes standard with one Peregrine, one Danube

    Unique frigate hangar option: Lightning-class light escort

    Um, that is way OP. Compare it to the Ody, you've added a higher turn rate, an Ensign boff slot moved up to LtC, and 2 hangars, with no downsides.
  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited July 2013
    jadensecura wrote: »
    Um, that is way OP. Compare it to the Ody, you've added a higher turn rate, an Ensign boff slot moved up to LtC, and 2 hangars, with no downsides.

    His BOFFs are standard Carrier BOFF layout. You lose the Ensign and get a 2nd Lt.Com.

    The stats are a bit off but, no Carrier has 4/4 weapons. 4/3 or 3/3. Also the Hull and turn rate just aren't right compared to the Carriers out there.

    You either have 35k hull and 7 turn or 42k and 5.5 turn.
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  • satanailofhwbgsatanailofhwbg Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Got an Atrox today. Now, whatever I say next, keep in mind I've went through some very good ships (Fleet Sol (RSV), Fleet HEC, Fleet MVAE, the latest being a Fleet Ha'feh).
    The Caitian Atrox Carrier is actually a very good ship. I haven't played that much STFs per day since...last year. The only downside is that I would really appreciate an Ens. Tactical slot to accommodate a second copy of TT, but one can never have all he wants.
    If you want a full blown carrier - go for it! Build it right and you'll be fine. I was actually amazed that I could kill waves of raptors without a sweat - that is with Mk XI green plasma and mixture of elite scorpions and anvanced danubes.

    I don't think I would have been this satisfied if I went in for the Scimitar.
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    His BOFFs are standard Carrier BOFF layout. You lose the Ensign and get a 2nd Lt.Com.

    3 of the 5 carriers do have a different layout, though. IIRC, only the Atrox and the Vo'Quv have the 4-man Boff setups, the JH dreadnaught, Kar' fi and Recluse all come with regular 5 boffs.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    dknight0001 wrote: »
    His BOFFs are standard Carrier BOFF layout. You lose the Ensign and get a 2nd Lt.Com.

    The stats are a bit off but, no Carrier has 4/4 weapons. 4/3 or 3/3. Also the Hull and turn rate just aren't right compared to the Carriers out there.

    You either have 35k hull and 7 turn or 42k and 5.5 turn.

    It's a cruiser-carrier. Seems more suited to Starfleet. A lower turn rate would probably be appropriate, we are talking about a carrier, after all.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    fraghul2000 wrote: »
    He could rephrase it to: "no 10-console carrier".

    I can't remember which one, but either Geko or CBS said no to that a couple years ago.
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  • omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    I can't remember which one, but either Geko or CBS said no to that a couple years ago.

    Cruiser Carriers like the Orion Flight Deck Cruisers or the Romulans Scimatar only have one hangar to make up for having 8 weapon slots.
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    qjunior wrote: »
    There is a T5 carrier, it's called the Atrox.

    It is Catian carrier not Starfleet though.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,502 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Enough with asking for Federation T5 carriers.
    Carriers are the Klingon specialty and despite that the Federation has the Atrox and Heavy Escort Carrier, not even counting access to the cross faction carriers.

    This is not Star Wars, BSG or B5. Fighters play only a very minor role in Star Trek and i wish people would stop asking for more.

    Let the carrier stay a Klingon specialty.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • satanailofhwbgsatanailofhwbg Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    After 3 days with the Atrox, with a science captain, I got to 4/5ths of the DPS I do in my Fleet HEC. And there is a room for at least 1k DPS more. Will take time though, a lot of dilithium is needed for the next step.
    To anyone who has second thoughts about getting the "worthless" fed carrier - build her right, flight her right and she will guarantee you a lot of enjoyment.
  • jagdhippiesjagdhippies Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    questerius wrote: »
    Enough with asking for Federation T5 carriers.
    Carriers are the Klingon specialty and despite that the Federation has the Atrox and Heavy Escort Carrier, not even counting access to the cross faction carriers.

    This is not Star Wars, BSG or B5. Fighters play only a very minor role in Star Trek and i wish people would stop asking for more.

    Let the carrier stay a Klingon specialty.

    The federation is the only faction that I recall seeing use fighters on screen (DS9 during the dominion war). An actual fed carrier would be quite nice. I think this is the way to go:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=780321
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,502 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    DS9 is the only show where fighters in Star Trek were shown (aside from the scorpion fighters in the Scimitar) hence the "minor role".

    Nebula variants are always interesting, but carriers are as far as i'm concerned a no-go.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • chi1701dchi1701d Member Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Think the KDF deserve the Fleet Kar'fi before the Federation gets another carrier.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,502 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    chi1701d wrote: »
    Think the KDF deserve the Fleet Kar'fi before the Federation gets another carrier.

    Indeed. First add the fleet versions for the KDF.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • cryptkeeper0cryptkeeper0 Member Posts: 989 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    They have a fleet version of there main carrier Vo'quv, feds do not have a fleet atrox. Which they should... before we get a fleet Kar'fi
  • risian5risian5 Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    There are Tier V carriers for the Federation: Atrox and Jem Hadar. Now, the Jem Hadar Dreadnought isn't really Fed in origin, but it is available to Federation players, so... it's a "Tier V Carrior for Feds" (to quote the title of this thread).

    age03 wrote: »
    It is Catian carrier not Starfleet though.

    Did I miss something? Are Caitians no longer part of the Federation? Or don't you consider it a Federation ship just because it doesn't have the typical saucer, hull, nacelles- configuration?
  • bermanatorbermanator Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    risian5 wrote: »
    Did I miss something? Are Caitians no longer part of the Federation? Or don't you consider it a Federation ship just because it doesn't have the typical saucer, hull, nacelles- configuration?

    I can't speak for age03, but when I see most people (myself included) say they want to see a Federation ship, they mean a Starfleet ship. The Caitain Atrox doesn't come from Starfleet (rather the Caitian homeworld), the Atrox is commissioned by Starfleet, though. I would like to see a carrier built by Starfleet, in Utopia Planitia.


    Regarding the irrelevance of fighters in Star Trek: as in game, fighters/carriers are useful and powerful. They provide an upperhand in many situations. Dismissing carriers because it isn't Star Trek, even though they are powerful in-game would be a lot like dismissing mines or tractor beams because they weren't used (but a handful of times) in Star Trek. Regardless, Cryptic is spelling out what the Star Trek Universe is like in 2409, and it clearly involves carriers from both the Fed and KDF side.
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