Ok, I have a gripe about our costume choices, and "Canon"...

smoovious

I have seen many people here asking about expanding (or at least, not limiting) our clothing and appearance options as much as STO is... and frequently what I see for justifications for limiting it is that it "isn't canon"...

Ok... one of my characters is an Orion female. Now, she's the captain, and if she wants to mandate all of her bridge officers of whatever gender, has to wear typical Orion garb as the standard ship's uniform, then that's the captain's perrogative, and every bridge officer regardless of race should have available to choose, the same clothing options the captain has.

After all, if the captain tells the engineer to program the replicators with the clothing style the captain wants, the engineer goes to work and programs it in. Chain of command. Captain says and engineer does.

But... ok, maybe not technically Canon, but just because we haven't seen an Orion ship in the series, where non-Orions were wearing the Orion garb, doesn't mean they aren't out there. We just rarely get to see one.

Just like, we've only seen 1 planet eater, but I'm sure there has got to be another one out there somewhere... and imagine if it got assimilated by the borg, and the next time the UFP encounters one, they have to deal with trying to kill an assimilated planet eater that adapts? But... I digress...

The whole "It isn't canon" argument has just gone out the window... walking and flying around Risa, I am seeing tons of examples where you guys are mixing and matching just like we want to do, but you won't let us, on the NPCs... Orion bra-plate with UFP skirts and Orion belts... on a Trill female wearing sunglasses... another wearing one of the almost one-piece suits with sunglasses, and an Orion silk and belt, etc...

If it isn't Canon, then you should change that immediately as the NPC's aren't supposed to break character, and mixing and matching different pieces like that is inappropriate.

Either that, or give us the ability to choose what we want, like we've been wanting.

Don't give us that "it isn't canon" argument anymore. If it is good enough for the NPC's, it is good enough for us.

-- Smoov

somebob

smoovious wrote: »

Don't give us that "it isn't canon" argument anymore. If it is good enough for the NPC's, it is good enough for us.

You'd think that would be true, but...

Best guess is that it sounds like CBS is holding things back. Of course, why an NPC can wear something and not a PC makes me scratch my head, but...

tc10b

Yes and no. Your Orion captain is still a KDF officer and the men serving under you are also KDF officers. If the uniform that they wish to wear is appropriate for the task then they should have a choice.

For example the Navy may say that women can wear skirts that would be optional to them, they could however elect to wear trousers instead and it would still be appropriate.

smoovious

Unless an order comes down the pipe to change the uniform to something else... say, for example, no more skirts and everyone else has to wear trousers... or certain ships have to wear this uniform, and other ships have to wear that one, and this starbase will be wearing this one, and that starbase will be wearing that one...

While the captain has a little bit of leeway on some minor details, for the larger uniform changes, those have to come from a little higher up...

...from, say, an Admiral?

-- Smoov

catoblepasbeta

I'm pretty sure that I saw a Trill on risa arguing with a Klingon that was wearing parts of the Risa swimsuit and/or Orion clothing components. This individual was explicitly labeled as federation officer. Apparently NPC ensigns or whatever can wear whatever they like on vacation, but vice admirals? Nooooo. Honestly, if keeping clothing options truer to canon was such a concern as it's sometimes made out to be in STO, the new wouldn't have access to silly things like the fanserviy mirror universe uniforms or horribly out of date unfiorms like the enterprise-era uniforms, and ships like the NX refit, Tuffi Freighter, Vulcan and Andorian ships would not be pilotable or wouldn't exist. Likewise, there wouldn't be silly things like Jem'Hadar or Breen Bridge officers. If Cryptic was so concerned with adhering to established canon, the Romulan faction would be nothing like its present state. Federation ships would only be able to equip phasers for weapons with photons, quantums, and tricobalts. (and only one or two would have access to cannons) and Romulans and KDF would only use disruptors. Klingosn would only be able to use photons while Romulans would use plasma torps.

Whenever the 'can't do that cause it would violate canon' argument is trotted out it inevitably raises my eyebrow, because what seems to be allowed or denied based on 'canon' seems entirely based on whim, and oftimes contradictory or nonsensical.

warpangel

STO doesn't have a uniform code. You can go cruising around the galaxy in pajamas if you want (and I've seen players who do). The clothing selection limits are all pretty much arbitrary.