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The Risian Corvette should be a racer, not a warship

philipagphilipag Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
There's room in STO for a racer-only, in fact with a few additions racing (and other non-combat functions) is a whole new potential market (possibly known as female players).

I love my Tuffli for example, and used it in Azura Nebula Rescue without firing a shot. A fast racer would have been better.
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  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I actually hoped that the Risian corvette would have been a small craft around the size of the Tal'kyr....
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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    But... it is a racer? I mean, as a corvette, it is technically a vessel of combat. But it's also exceedingly fast. Heck, even all it's "special abilities" are about speed. This thing looks like it'll be able to dance circles around even the fastest escorts in the game so far.
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I would have liked it to have Advanced Slipstream too, but I am satisfied with it's "raceriness" already.
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  • philipagphilipag Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I mean perhaps the prize should be the unmilitarized version, which eventually could accompany actual racing opportunities in STO. Connecting Risa to a warship feels really wrong.

    People do fly their Tufflis when possible.
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    philipag wrote: »
    There's room in STO for a racer-only, in fact with a few additions racing (and other non-combat functions) is a whole new potential market (possibly known as female players).

    I love my Tuffli for example, and used it in Azura Nebula Rescue without firing a shot. A fast racer would have been better.

    Sexism much? Kinda condescending to assume that the female members of the community don't want warships like us manly men, but something fast and with no weapons.

    Furthermore; This game is - ultimately - about combat. If there were a market for ships like the Tuffli and the Corvette, such as a mechanic in the game for trade routes and whatnot (anyone who's played the old classic Freelancer will have an idea of what I mean. Or anyone who's played EVE, for that matter) then I could support ship classes that forgo weapons for increased speed, or cargo capacity.

    As it stands, there isn't. So there isn't much point to gun-less ships. And the Corvette is a small, fast ship. Ergo, it is obviously an Escort.
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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Well, while the Risians are pacifists, they probably aren't above defending themselves. The Vulcans are traditionally pacifistic, too, but they tend to have very well equipped vessels.
    Also, it's pointed out in the Dev Blogs that these armed variants of the Risian ships are actually being manufactured by the Ferengi, so there's that, too.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    smokeybacon90 wrote: »
    I would have liked it to have Advanced Slipstream too, but I am satisfied with it's "raceriness" already.

    It looks as average as they come in sector space. Racer my battleship can keep pace with.

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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Lol. A risian ship being a full fledged destroyer warship. STO has jumped the shark ;)

    EDIT: Even with DHC :D TRIBBLE it, I'm done ;)
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  • artanisenartanisen Member Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    its not a warship , its a escort.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    artanisen wrote: »
    its not a warship , its a escort.

    They can call it an "escort" all they want!
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    assimilatedktar wrote: »
    I actually hoped that the Risian corvette would have been a small craft around the size of the Tal'kyr....

    that, so much that...it should have been a shuttle, a free one with 2 boff seats and maybe a build in EPtE
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  • velktravelktra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    philipag wrote: »
    There's room in STO for a racer-only, in fact with a few additions racing (and other non-combat functions) is a whole new potential market (possibly known as female players).

    I will never understand this misconception that women do not play games that involve combat. -_-

    A "corvette" is a maneuverable, lightly armed warship smaller than a frigate. This is also already established in the game with the Orion corvettes. Besides, you can race with any ship in the game.
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  • wufangchuwufangchu Member Posts: 778 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Guys and gals,, I think your missing an opportunity here.. Overlooking it actually.
    The Risian Corvette IS a racer, but with guns.. Well, what can you do with a racer with guns?? You can race.. You can race a very deadly race.. Start at Risa, work a plot through a few sectors. Run the race. No rules.. First survivor across the finish line wins. Make it a PvP race.. Anyone in the race must have their PVp flag turned on or they get disqualified.
    You might have to work with Cryptic to set it up, but havent you PvP'ers been looking to find a way to put some life into PvP?? Winners get Bragging rights and a cannibal tribble..

    Bran?? What would be "your" opinion on this and how do you think Cryptic would view it??
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    wufangchu wrote: »
    Guys and gals,, I think your missing an opportunity here.. Overlooking it actually.
    The Risian Corvette IS a racer, but with guns.. Well, what can you do with a racer with guns?? You can race.. You can race a very deadly race.. Start at Risa, work a plot through a few sectors. Run the race. No rules.. First survivor across the finish line wins. Make it a PvP race.. Anyone in the race must have their PVp flag turned on or they get disqualified.
    You might have to work with Cryptic to set it up, but havent you PvP'ers been looking to find a way to put some life into PvP?? Winners get Bragging rights and a cannibal tribble..

    Bran?? What would be "your" opinion on this and how do you think Cryptic would view it??

    I think you missed the point- this ship has NO advantage in sector space, and while in system space I see a group of these all wake disabling themselves whilst a slow BoP zooms right by and takes the win.
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  • wufangchuwufangchu Member Posts: 778 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    I think you missed the point- this ship has NO advantage in sector space, and while in system space I see a group of these all wake disabling themselves whilst a slow BoP zooms right by and takes the win.
    :cool:

    No, i didnt.. It would be a class race. Only this ship type would be allowed in the race (untill they create another racer ). Cryptic would have to lift the no vpv in sector rule and replace it with a no pvp flag in each users setup, but the flag already exists.. That type of pvp has been done in plenty of MMO's before, and is easily done here..

    Let me make one qualifying statement here.. I'm not a PvP'er. I hate PvP.. But YOU PvP'ers are the ones that have been moaning and complaining about the PvP situation in STO. I'm just presenting an Idea that you can freely exploit with a little effort..
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  • yomatofanyomatofan Member Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    angrytarg wrote: »
    They can call it an "escort" all they want!

    The called the Defiant and "Escort" but its a Warship and to be honest, STO has got some many classifications of a ships wrong... whats one more gonna hurt.
  • mrspidey2mrspidey2 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    yomatofan wrote: »
    The called the Defiant and "Escort" but its a Warship and to be honest, STO has got some many classifications of a ships wrong... whats one more gonna hurt.
    You're missing the point. The Risian Corvette is an escort because it has the stats of an escort. Destroyers are less maneuverable and more tanky. Look at the Mogai or the Breen ship for example.
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  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The Risian Corvette is an escort because it has the stats of an escort. Destroyers are less maneuverable and more tanky. Look at the Mogai or the Breen ship for example.

    But then you also have the Aquarius, Scourge, Vandal, Krenn or Mobius, which are all designated as destroyers ingame and have turn-rates, hull and shield mods of the "regular" escorts.
  • mrspidey2mrspidey2 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yeah that's a bit iffy. But also irrelevant for the Corvette, since it's not designated as a destroyer anyway.

    But, generally speaking, destroyers are in between escorts and cruisers.
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  • angarus1angarus1 Member Posts: 684 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I dunno, just use it as a racer instead?
  • velktravelktra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    wufangchu wrote: »
    Guys and gals,, I think your missing an opportunity here.. Overlooking it actually.
    The Risian Corvette IS a racer, but with guns.. Well, what can you do with a racer with guns?? You can race.. You can race a very deadly race.. Start at Risa, work a plot through a few sectors. Run the race. No rules.. First survivor across the finish line wins. Make it a PvP race.. Anyone in the race must have their PVp flag turned on or they get disqualified.
    You might have to work with Cryptic to set it up, but havent you PvP'ers been looking to find a way to put some life into PvP?? Winners get Bragging rights and a cannibal tribble..

    Bran?? What would be "your" opinion on this and how do you think Cryptic would view it??

    Clever! Now that's a fun idea. :cool:
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  • cletusdeadmancletusdeadman Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    assimilatedktar wrote: »
    I actually hoped that the Risian corvette would have been a small craft around the size of the Tal'kyr....

    This. 25 crew, keep the plus engine stat, weapons or not really is not issue.
    Add advanced slip stream!
    Add transwarp speed bonus!
    Add turnrate while in sector space and slip stream (RSC x2 base, improve with driver coil).

    What we have now is just, well, a regular ship with a larger engine bonus. We like it, it just isn't a racer if you can't race across sector space as well system space.
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    But, generally speaking, destroyers are in between escorts and cruisers.

    Generally speaking, destroyers and escorts can't be compared, as one of it is a type of ship, the other is a role or task. ;)
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