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The Romulan ship tier are incorrect.

age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
edited June 2013 in Romulan Discussion
The Romulan ship tier are incorrect.

Subadmirla 1 should be uusing Tac/Sci. Mogai and Geer Warbird.I am not sure about about the lower levels make different kind of Rom. BoP.
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Wow. I have only the vaguest idea what you are talking about. Are you asking that the Mogai is at Subadmiral and another BoP style ship as well? I'm confused.
  • aveimperatoraveimperator Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Drugs'r'bad, mmkay?
  • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Raider>>Escort>>Destroyer>>Cruiser>>Your Choice between Cruiser, Science and Escort

    As far as I'm aware this is the progression of ships, not including the VA ships since they are C-Store/Fleet currently only.
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Wait... what? OP, your post is... what?

    *scratches head*

    I very confused now...
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I said subadmirals should be suing the mogai sci/tac and engineers the warbird.

    The T5 ships are @rap especially the engineer ship got to be worst desinged one in the game as it take forever to turn.

    I deleted my Rom geer and started a sci off.
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  • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    They don't seem to be happy with the choices of ships vs layouts.

    You do understand that the Sub-admiral ships are exactly the same as some of the Fed ships, like the Patrol Escort and the Assault Cruiser. They are good, solid career specific ships. Your main complaint seems to be that you want a specific ship (like the Mogai) with more seating geared towards you and your specific career, which isn't going to happen. RCS consoles received a major buff for LOR, put some on that cruiser, use the 2 console bonus for the D'D, be more flexible.
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Um... you know, just because you're an engi, you don't have to fly a Haapex. You can just fly a Ha'feh or Ha'nom.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    once at level 50 all this is of no importance anyway, you can and should be able to fly any ship you want with any captain you want.

    also, calling the engineer class "geer" may work for you and your buddys in sto...most however have a hard time understanding what you mean.
    tac, engi, sci is most commonly used short version for the classes, stick with it, plz.

    calling the cruiser in this game "the engineer ship" is also confusing, this implies taht it would only be good for engineers, which is not true.
    BoP, escorts, destroyer, cruiser, dreadnought, sci ship/vessel, carrier are the most commonly used and best understood classifications for ships in this game.
    all romulan ships are warbirds btw...so thats very confusing to say: "use the warbird"

    for the sake of better understanding, everybody should use a common terminology, otherwise confusing posts like age03's are the result.


    so, at last i want to add that the romulan ship tiers are not incorrect, age03 just doen't like it.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    age03 wrote: »
    I said subadmirals should be suing the mogai sci/tac and engineers the warbird.

    I don't think you can sue the Mogai. Legal action isn't merited in this case anyways.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    T'liss (TOS)
    Dhelan (Designed in the 23rd, but not implemented at the time)
    D'deridex (TNG)
    Mogai (Nemesis)
    Ha'apax/Ha'nom/Ha'feh (STO)

    If that's what the OP had said, I could have agreed from a "timeline" sort of thing...with the T1-T4 being out of order.
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    That is what I ma sort of saying and there are better models out there than these.

    To late though already deleted made up a Sci off.
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  • voicesdarkvoicesdark Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Character class (Tac/ Eng/ Sci) have very little to do with what ships you can use. I've used an Eng with an escort and a Tac with a cruiser and actually in most cases it works much better like that. I'm not one to sit back and heal or do the support role so I'm not sure how it goes with Sci, but I'd imagine they are pretty much the same.

    There are so many different ways to augment turn rate (not even counting fleet gear) that really the only limiting factor is the Boff layout and just what ships/gameplay style you prefer.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    virusdancer wrote: »
    T'liss (TOS)
    Dhelan (Designed in the 23rd, but not implemented at the time)
    D'deridex (TNG)
    Mogai (Nemesis)
    Ha'apax/Ha'nom/Ha'feh (STO)

    If that's what the OP had said, I could have agreed from a "timeline" sort of thing...with the T1-T4 being out of order.

    ...but the timeline has had no relevance in this regard in other cases either.;)
    The Nova (Tier 2) is newer than the Nebula (Tier 3 "plus one").
    The Excelsior (Tier 3 "plus one) is much older than the Cheyenne (Tier 3) but the Excelsior is more powerful.
    The Defiant (Tier 4) is older and smaller than the Akira (Tier 3) so...size isn't a criterion, age isn't a criterion either.
    My gut feeling tells me the reason the D'D is on tier 4 is because there it's opposite the Galaxy, which at least makes sense.
    Worse, imagine they'd put the D'D into Tier 3...people would have to fly it with even lower level equipment or Cryptic would have to bump its turnrate above the Galaxy's...which makes no sense anyway. Or with the T3 version getting a higher turnrate which then gets cut dwn for the retrofit...at which point you'd start seeing people wth pitchfroks and torches gathering in front of Cryptic Studios.
    So they were pretty much trapped.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    My gut feeling tells me the reason the D'D is on tier 4 is because there it's opposite the Galaxy, which at least makes sense.

    That's pretty much the case there.

    I wasn't saying that it would be perfect, but at least if that's what the OP were saying - I could see it.

    The tiers in general are a mess. Then you get into T5 with RA/VA/Zen/Fleet/Lockbox and yeah...that's another mess, eh?

    Imagine if (just looking at Romulan boats in this regard), it went something more like the following:

    T1 T'liss
    T2 Dhelan/T'varo
    T3 Mogai/Dhael
    T4 D'deridex/Valdore
    T5 Ha'apax/MU Ha'apax/Ha'nom/MU Ha'nom/Ha'feh/MU Ha'feh/D'ridthau
    T6 Haakona/T'varo Retrofit
    T7 Dhelan Retrofit/Fleet T'varo
    T8 Mogai Retrofit/Fleet Dhelan
    T9 D'deridex Retrofit/Fleet Mogai
    T10 Fleet D'deridex
    T11 Fleet Ha'apax/Fleet Ha'nom/Fleet Ha'feh
    T12 Tal Shiar Adapted Destroyer/Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser

    Heh, then try to put the Scimitar into that, eh?

    Yeah, that's not going to happen. Doesn't change that the current system with T/T.5 and then the mess at T5...doesn't change that is a mess.

    They've mentioned not doing T6 ships, but rather introducing additional ways to upgrade the T5 ships...while introducing T5 ships that appear to be well beyond what T6 would be.

    Between fudging the "hero" ships at Captain level (T4), folks clamoring to fly older vessels at endgame, and a lack of content relevant to ship types/career choices/one size fits all mentality of it (could you imagine watching TNG or VOY where the ship was the Defiant? that's what STO gives us)...well, it's a mess.

    There's little point in adjusting any of it, though - because it's STO. It's designed that way. Changing it would require a different game...

    ...so it's a case of enjoying it - or not enjoying it. Pretty simple.
  • carrowcanarycarrowcanary Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    :Wanders in:

    :Sees who OP is:

    :Sighs and wanders back out again:
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    [QUOTE=misterde3;11095991My gut feeling tells me the reason the D'D is on tier 4 is because there it's opposite the Galaxy, which at least makes sense.[/QUOTE]

    And the Vor'cha. Those three were the capital ships of the time are were contemporaries of each other.
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