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Idea: Borg lock boxes

jkwrangler2010jkwrangler2010 Member Posts: 263 Arc User
I know there is a lot going against Borg lock boxes. We already have the Borg adapted space set, Borg prosthetic weapons, liberated Borg boffs/doffs and Omega adapted Borg weapons.

*Spoiler*

Story wise, we know the Tal Shiar have been working with Borg technology to enhance their ships. FED/KDF created and disbanded Task Force Omega to counter the Borg. But I think we can still get a little more out of the most feared faction in ST.

The one thing I wish I could do is fly a Borg ship, like a Sphere. It's one of the most annoying enemy ships in the game but could easily be made into a playable version. A cube would be cool, but would probably be way too slow to be usable and too big of a target. Maybe have a fully assimilated FED/KDF/RRW ship [not just Borg enhanced] as a very rare reward. We know there are assimilated Klingon ships in STF Cure and we know the Borg have assimilated countless ships.

Could also have Borg enhanced consoles as rewards. Like enhanced Warhead Yield Chamber, Directed Energy Distribution Manifold and Prefire Chamber that give 35% damage increase.

Could also have a reusable space defense turret instead of the normal consumable ones. Borg enhanced warp cores.

Just an idea. :)
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,164 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You'll get nothing and like it!

    -1 lockbox ship
    -1 Borg (new aliens plox)
    -1 I feel like being a TRIBBLE and evil today
    +1 35% damage increase
    -1 makes my wallet hate me
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  • topsettopset Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    NO PLAYABLE BORG.

    How hard is that to understand? For a borg ship to be playable it would need to be nerfed into oblivion. What's the point? Just leave them as the major enemy. FFS!
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    topset wrote: »
    NO PLAYABLE BORG.

    How hard is that to understand? For a borg ship to be playable it would need to be nerfed into oblivion. What's the point? Just leave them as the major enemy. FFS!

    sooo this^^^^^^^^^
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    oh I think a lock box cube is a great idea
    it could have the same hull and weapons as the ones in STFS
    and be limited (untradable) to the account of the finder

    just one tiny tiny thing

    It should be useable only by lifetimers EVER
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    topset wrote: »
    NO PLAYABLE BORG.

    How hard is that to understand? For a borg ship to be playable it would need to be nerfed into oblivion. What's the point? Just leave them as the major enemy. FFS!
    This, and:
    daan2006 wrote: »
    sooo this^^^^^^^^^
    This.

    That's all I have to say.
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  • ussdelphin2ussdelphin2 Member Posts: 525 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    topset wrote: »
    NO PLAYABLE BORG.

    How hard is that to understand? For a borg ship to be playable it would need to be nerfed into oblivion. What's the point? Just leave them as the major enemy. FFS!

    I agree, As for the ships needing to be nerfed... same could be said for the Scimitar, it should not be or ever be a playable ship.
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  • carrowcanarycarrowcanary Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    And this week's "We need a Borg lockbox" thread award goes to...

    :drumroll:

    jkwrangler2010

    You can pick your prize up next week, in the next "We need a Borg lockbox" thread.

    Thanks for watching, and good night.
  • prophet477prophet477 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    So what about the "I WIN " Button for at least 50000 Zen. Can be pushed ever 2 seconds ...

    Playable borg is like that. :rolleyes:
  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    prophet477 wrote: »
    So what about the "I WIN " Button for at least 50000 Zen. Can be pushed ever 2 seconds ...

    Playable borg is like that. :rolleyes:

    and kill all enemies within a 20km radius.
  • kaltoumkaltoum Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    What is with these stupid requests to add more lock boxes? why not just add ships directly to C STOR and buy it from there? lock boxes is just the worst thing that has ever happened to MMO genre. Stop encouraging this further.
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    topset wrote: »
    NO PLAYABLE BORG.

    'Nuff said.
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  • ztstrikeztstrike Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    No, just no....
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  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I hate trying to tell other people which ships/species should be available to them, but I'll make an exception in the case of the Borg. Let's keep them out of reach.

    Unless they want to give me a playable Q. Then I'd look the other way on the Borg.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The Tal Shiar ships are Borg enough that there is no need for a Borg lockbox. As far as playable Borg go, there is lots of people that are playing liberated Borg and the only way a playable Borg faction would work is if it is based off of the Borg Cooperative, Hugh's group, Unimatrix Zero or another similar Borg faction that is not part of the Borg Collective.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    kaltoum wrote: »
    What is with these stupid requests to add more lock boxes? why not just add ships directly to C STOR and buy it from there? lock boxes is just the worst thing that has ever happened to MMO genre. Stop encouraging this further.

    It's because people hope to grab those ships for EC off the exchange while other "crazies" invest a stupid amount of money in keys. And people do that, it works. Borg ships in a lockbox would be a gold mine for PWE.

    As far as I'm concerned I'd rather see borg lockbpx ships than some made-up uberships or Section 31 stuff. Why? At least it's canon material and I can laugh at people throwing their money at PWE for a flawed game. Plus I don't care for lockboxes or the mess STO calls a story anyway :D

    EDIT: at least 70% of STO playerbase play or "RP" a borg anyway. Might as well give them "proper" ships ;)
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,500 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    In Voyager we've seen a sphere commandeered by liberated borg so there is some room to fly Borg vessels.

    Do i like the idea? No, no and let me make that clear: NO.

    We have enough Borg enhancements.
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  • ladyinferno2010ladyinferno2010 Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Not sure which is more disturbing.

    1) That a player wants a Borg lockbox.
    or
    2) That a player wants a lockbox.
  • kaltoumkaltoum Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Not sure which is more disturbing.

    1) That a player wants a Borg lockbox.
    or
    2) That a player wants a lockbox.

    Gamers are their own worst enemy. No wonder companies are always so glad to fleece them from all directions.
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  • vimzulvimzul Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Borg are stupid, they can't even adapt to primitive gun/bullets. Lucky the Borg didn't invade during the wild west.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Playable borg sphere :
    6 front/0 aft
    can only equip DHC

    The hardest part is not to kill but to find where the front is on a sphere.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Not sure which is more disturbing.

    1) That a player wants a Borg lockbox.
    or
    2) That a player wants a lockbox.

    Cryptic has trained the players that if you want a ship that should never be available, then it must be in a lockbox. The only ship that violates this is the Galaxy X, but that was introduced long before lockboxes. If the Galaxy X was introduced now, then it would be in a lockbox instead of the C-Store.
  • daboholicdaboholic Member Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I say let the people have their Borg ships. However, upon opening the box, their toon and it's crew should be immediately and irreversibly assimilated.

    Anytime they log onto that toon after that, all they should see are the Borg drone effects we see now if the Borg happen to assimilate you in ground combat :D
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    topset wrote: »
    NO PLAYABLE BORG.

    How hard is that to understand? For a borg ship to be playable it would need to be nerfed into oblivion. What's the point? Just leave them as the major enemy. FFS!

    So NOT this^^^^^^^^^

    PWE came up with a (lame, but okay) canonical explanation for having stripped the temporal ships of all superior technology too (save a few time consoles). I'm sure they could easily invent a similar rationale for reduced-strength cubes and spheres as well.

    Ultimately, it's all about having fun, and ppl willing to pay for it. I, for one, would gladly shell out for a cute little sphere. And a cube too (which would probably not only turn like a brick, but finally look the part too).

    And, if anything, since we already have Borg shield, deflectors, weps, and engines, it makes much sense to finally get a playable Borg ship too.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    daboholic wrote: »
    I say let the people have their Borg ships. However, upon opening the box, their toon and it's crew should be immediately and irreversibly assimilated.

    Although you were trying to be funny, there *is* something to be said for introducing Borg ships that are *only* playable by actual Borg playable characters (yes, we now have those too).
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Bad idea: Borg lock boxes

    There, now it's fixed. ;)
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  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Lockboxes have led to the most comprehensive and complete expansion and improvement in this game's history.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I know there is a lot going against Borg lock boxes. We already have the Borg adapted space set, Borg prosthetic weapons, liberated Borg boffs/doffs and Omega adapted Borg weapons.

    *Spoiler*

    Story wise, we know the Tal Shiar have been working with Borg technology to enhance their ships. FED/KDF created and disbanded Task Force Omega to counter the Borg. But I think we can still get a little more out of the most feared faction in ST.

    The one thing I wish I could do is fly a Borg ship, like a Sphere. It's one of the most annoying enemy ships in the game but could easily be made into a playable version. A cube would be cool, but would probably be way too slow to be usable and too big of a target. Maybe have a fully assimilated FED/KDF/RRW ship [not just Borg enhanced] as a very rare reward. We know there are assimilated Klingon ships in STF Cure and we know the Borg have assimilated countless ships.

    Could also have Borg enhanced consoles as rewards. Like enhanced Warhead Yield Chamber, Directed Energy Distribution Manifold and Prefire Chamber that give 35% damage increase.

    Could also have a reusable space defense turret instead of the normal consumable ones. Borg enhanced warp cores.

    Just an idea. :)

    im gonna be honest here i may end up trolling a bit in the point.

    i dont agree with cubes, especially a tactical cube! can you imagine a group of 5 tactical cube players wondering around maximizing their ablities during pvp?, they would be untouchable. you really think thats a good game balancer there or just a major brain fade moment? not even the ever destructive bug ship would be able to get on top of that.

    even a cube is bad enough with a shield neutralizer weapon and a crit torpedo hit. a sphere is pushing it, but acceptable like the interceptor and the old probes that were retired from sto a while back.

    edit: borg warp cores? they dont have traditional warp cores, they have transwarp coils. so any borg ship will travel transwarp as primary compared to the slower traditional warp speeds which the coil is capable of.
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  • khanrebornkhanreborn Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I think that it would be better to put more stuff into the omega reputation.

    But if they were to do a Borg cube as a lock-box ship, it should be a cruiser with ridiculous amount of hull and terrible turn and shield rates
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  • ussdelphin2ussdelphin2 Member Posts: 525 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Too bad. The devs have already confirmed that we're getting the Scimitar as part of a three ship bundle, and the drone fighters for the Scimitar are already being listed on Tribble.

    I know, I was just saying it should not be a playable ship... it should just be left as a powerful NPC enemy.... But I know, Profit has to come first.
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  • ussdelphin2ussdelphin2 Member Posts: 525 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    im gonna be honest here i may end up trolling a bit in the point.

    i dont agree with cubes, especially a tactical cube! can you imagine a group of 5 tactical cube players wondering around maximizing their ablities during pvp?, they would be untouchable. you really think thats a good game balancer there or just a major brain fade moment? not even the ever destructive bug ship would be able to get on top of that.

    even a cube is bad enough with a shield neutralizer weapon and a crit torpedo hit. a sphere is pushing it, but acceptable like the interceptor and the old probes that were retired from sto a while back.

    edit: borg warp cores? they dont have traditional warp cores, they have transwarp coils. so any borg ship will travel transwarp as primary compared to the slower traditional warp speeds which the coil is capable of.

    A playable cube (Not that there should be one) would be nothing like the NPC Borg Cube, it would be beaten with the nerf bat so hard it would be more like a Sugar Cube. Imagine 5 players in PvP all using Scimitars, you would not touch them if the ships are exactly the same as the NPC version.... but they are not.... they will have been beaten down with a nerf bat.
    How I picture a lot of the forumites :P
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