The Fleet Ambassidor also as a Broadside beam boat works good with Sci skills. Also you can't go wrong with a Fleet Excelsior FOr DPS or Fleet MVAE. Temporal destroyer is also nice if you want to Fly Escourts. All Except the Excelsior have a LT CMDR SCI station.
Given that you've gone for some sci powers, I would recommend the Tactical Vesta, a good combination of escorts and science ships.
2 for AUX cannons combined with a quantum torp, with phaser turrets on the back works really well for PVE
I strongly suggest not doing this. Mixing aux power weapons and wep power weapons is silly.
If you want a mix of science and tac, I strongly suggest doing the Fleet Advanced Escort (Or multi-vector advanced escort). You only lose a CMD Sci power in exchange for a CMD tac. I strongly suggest Attack Pattern Beta 3.
I strongly suggest not doing this. Mixing aux power weapons and wep power weapons is silly.
If you want a mix of science and tac, I strongly suggest doing the Fleet Advanced Escort (Or multi-vector advanced escort). You only lose a CMD Sci power in exchange for a CMD tac. I strongly suggest Attack Pattern Beta 3.
However, from what I heard, Vesta can overcome this by using a warp core that have [a->w] property.
That being said, I noticed you are trying to respec. It would seems that escorts would still be a good idea, aside from one of the Vesta. While I am still sporting sour grape on my choice, I ended up getting Heavy Escort Carrier. 3 tac officer and a complement of fighters help its damages, while a lt cmd Eng and 3 eng consoles gives it abilities to survive.
Vesta may still be a good idea, due to the fact that it has a stronger shield, allow one to do shield tanking. Vesta is unique in that it rely on aux power and aux power alone, and as you can see here, it helps in shield heal and shield drain and launching fighters.. Though granted, I do not own one - but that's the general concensus.
And to other people: If you want to give advice, PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE THREAD. If it's tldr, then do not go and help out. He is thinking to respec more for DPS, and don't really care about science abilities..
What do you want to fly, A cruiser try the Assault Refit or the Excelsior, both fleet version are awesome from what I hear. Run an Aux2bat build on those babies.
If Damage is what your after than the Heavy Escort Carrier, Advanced Escort, Tactical Escort Retrofit, or the Andorian ships are all meant to be nice in their own unique way.
My personal choice for Damage would be the HEC, it's tougher slightly slower escort with hanger craft. It comes with a great DPS spike console and it's a T5 Akira if I want it to be.
Vesta's are great for Science but I wouldn't buy one for DPS, it's the best Sci ship in the game but it's not the best DPS ship in the game.
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I strongly suggest not doing this. Mixing aux power weapons and wep power weapons is silly.
If you want a mix of science and tac, I strongly suggest doing the Fleet Advanced Escort (Or multi-vector advanced escort). You only lose a CMD Sci power in exchange for a CMD tac. I strongly suggest Attack Pattern Beta 3.
+1, though after extensive testing, I find AP-Omega3 far more powerful, even in PVE, when used with 3 AP Conn DOFF's.
The fleet advanced escort is a better choice than the Vesta for these listed reasons:
1) It has superior mobility and turn rate
2) It has +15 weapon subsystem power for improved damage output
3) It has 4 forward weapon slots -- the Vesta only has 3
4) It has 5 tactical console slots
5) It has more tac-oriented BOFF stations while still having access to GW1, VM1, or any other Lt.Cmdr science ability.
I was helping a fleet mate test out his tac + vesta combo a few nights ago. He was unable to breach my ship's shields, but I had no problems decimating his ship in single pass alpha strikes.
My general recommendation is to go with a Patrol Escort, or pick up a mirror patrol escort off of the exchange. It's an aggressive and tough little ship that's hard to go wrong with. The Fleet version is quite solid as well with an universal ensign slot - so you can slant towards your preference.
If you're wanting a science ship that is tactically oriented, there are actually a few options, depending on what you want out of it:
Nebula - it's moreso a torpedo support ship, but it has enough tactical slot potential to rotate tac teams and weapon skills/patterns. Honestly though, the Vesta has pretty much rendered the ship obsolete in almost every way(its hull can actually take a beating, unlike the Vesta).
Tactical Vesta - Pretty much the pinnacle 'do it all' ship. It IS a science ship, so remember to not waste any more power on weapons than you must. Load it up with either the Aux Cannons and mines, or full torpedos and you'll be able to shield-tank like a monster(I highly recommend the full borg shield set for this ship - the natural shield mod compensates the low capacity and your regeneration will be absurd with shield and aux power running 100+). It also has a hanger that can compliment/compensate your chosen playstyle. Be warned that it does have a glass hull; if you ever allow a shield facing to fail, you will be very lucky to survive.
Temporal Destroyer/Science Ship - They're a bit more exotic, but they are quite solid as offensive science ships that let you get away with double-dipping. If you're looking for a traditionally escort/DHC playstyle without being locked out of higher science skills, the Destroyer will deliver.
I strongly suggest not doing this. Mixing aux power weapons and wep power weapons is silly.
au contraire mon capitaine
altho sci powers got another hit from the EPTE to borg in PVE (aka making yet another sci skill useless in stfs - not pve tho - in the form of grav well being useless), having a strong sci is still not a bad thing. and that sci is going to be stronger by mixing aux and weapon power.
pre s8 it was stupid to go the aux dhc way, but since then, so many things changed, that you can pretty much make really good DPS-tank-sci builds with the mix of aux and weap power.
I have 130 aux and 107 weap on my aux dhc vesta (in the making), just sitting in space, not using any eptw to give me dmg and energy boosts, nor do I count in Leech or Maco shield power bonuses, nor energy siphon or anything. just sitting I have the 2 above 100 (I would agree tho, that 125 is a must on both, but you can easily cycle eptw, and you even gain bonus dmg). plus the aux dhcs can get bonus power up to 130 instead of 125 (minor bonus, yet it is still a bonus).
the only loss is with the phaser proc, but with so many new stuff coming (fleet warpcores, nukara rep bonus are the biggest), mixing aux and weap is not a bad idea (if you know what you are doing ofc
now thats out of the way, I recommend buying the tac vesta for op
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2 for AUX cannons combined with a quantum torp, with phaser turrets on the back works really well for PVE
I strongly suggest not doing this. Mixing aux power weapons and wep power weapons is silly.
If you want a mix of science and tac, I strongly suggest doing the Fleet Advanced Escort (Or multi-vector advanced escort). You only lose a CMD Sci power in exchange for a CMD tac. I strongly suggest Attack Pattern Beta 3.
However, from what I heard, Vesta can overcome this by using a warp core that have [a->w] property.
That being said, I noticed you are trying to respec. It would seems that escorts would still be a good idea, aside from one of the Vesta. While I am still sporting sour grape on my choice, I ended up getting Heavy Escort Carrier. 3 tac officer and a complement of fighters help its damages, while a lt cmd Eng and 3 eng consoles gives it abilities to survive.
Vesta may still be a good idea, due to the fact that it has a stronger shield, allow one to do shield tanking. Vesta is unique in that it rely on aux power and aux power alone, and as you can see here, it helps in shield heal and shield drain and launching fighters.. Though granted, I do not own one - but that's the general concensus.
And to other people: If you want to give advice, PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE THREAD. If it's tldr, then do not go and help out. He is thinking to respec more for DPS, and don't really care about science abilities..
If Damage is what your after than the Heavy Escort Carrier, Advanced Escort, Tactical Escort Retrofit, or the Andorian ships are all meant to be nice in their own unique way.
My personal choice for Damage would be the HEC, it's tougher slightly slower escort with hanger craft. It comes with a great DPS spike console and it's a T5 Akira if I want it to be.
Vesta's are great for Science but I wouldn't buy one for DPS, it's the best Sci ship in the game but it's not the best DPS ship in the game.
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+1, though after extensive testing, I find AP-Omega3 far more powerful, even in PVE, when used with 3 AP Conn DOFF's.
The fleet advanced escort is a better choice than the Vesta for these listed reasons:
1) It has superior mobility and turn rate
2) It has +15 weapon subsystem power for improved damage output
3) It has 4 forward weapon slots -- the Vesta only has 3
4) It has 5 tactical console slots
5) It has more tac-oriented BOFF stations while still having access to GW1, VM1, or any other Lt.Cmdr science ability.
I was helping a fleet mate test out his tac + vesta combo a few nights ago. He was unable to breach my ship's shields, but I had no problems decimating his ship in single pass alpha strikes.
If you're wanting a science ship that is tactically oriented, there are actually a few options, depending on what you want out of it:
Nebula - it's moreso a torpedo support ship, but it has enough tactical slot potential to rotate tac teams and weapon skills/patterns. Honestly though, the Vesta has pretty much rendered the ship obsolete in almost every way(its hull can actually take a beating, unlike the Vesta).
Tactical Vesta - Pretty much the pinnacle 'do it all' ship. It IS a science ship, so remember to not waste any more power on weapons than you must. Load it up with either the Aux Cannons and mines, or full torpedos and you'll be able to shield-tank like a monster(I highly recommend the full borg shield set for this ship - the natural shield mod compensates the low capacity and your regeneration will be absurd with shield and aux power running 100+). It also has a hanger that can compliment/compensate your chosen playstyle. Be warned that it does have a glass hull; if you ever allow a shield facing to fail, you will be very lucky to survive.
Temporal Destroyer/Science Ship - They're a bit more exotic, but they are quite solid as offensive science ships that let you get away with double-dipping. If you're looking for a traditionally escort/DHC playstyle without being locked out of higher science skills, the Destroyer will deliver.
au contraire mon capitaine
altho sci powers got another hit from the EPTE to borg in PVE (aka making yet another sci skill useless in stfs - not pve tho - in the form of grav well being useless), having a strong sci is still not a bad thing. and that sci is going to be stronger by mixing aux and weapon power.
pre s8 it was stupid to go the aux dhc way, but since then, so many things changed, that you can pretty much make really good DPS-tank-sci builds with the mix of aux and weap power.
I have 130 aux and 107 weap on my aux dhc vesta (in the making), just sitting in space, not using any eptw to give me dmg and energy boosts, nor do I count in Leech or Maco shield power bonuses, nor energy siphon or anything. just sitting I have the 2 above 100 (I would agree tho, that 125 is a must on both, but you can easily cycle eptw, and you even gain bonus dmg). plus the aux dhcs can get bonus power up to 130 instead of 125 (minor bonus, yet it is still a bonus).
the only loss is with the phaser proc, but with so many new stuff coming (fleet warpcores, nukara rep bonus are the biggest), mixing aux and weap is not a bad idea (if you know what you are doing ofc
now thats out of the way, I recommend buying the tac vesta for op
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