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Please Buff the Chimera
atatassault
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This is a Ship that you got at minimum $200 for everyone that has it ($300 for non Sale LTS, and $510 for the crazy people that monthlied all the way up there). Yet the Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier is essentially a better version.
The JHEC has essentially the same, but better boff seating than the Chimera.
The JHEC has 10 console slots.
The JHEC has a hangar.
The JHEC has +10% HP and Shields HP, being a lockbox/fleet level ship.
The Chimera Gets a Phaser Lotus, that is only really effective in the hands of a Tactical Captain (and costs a whopping 75 power to use, and costs a console slot, where the JHEC gets its ability, a fighter, for free).
Please Buff the Chimera to Fleet Level, and possibly add a hangar slot; You're getting about as much money per Chimera as you are JHEC, so it only makes sense for the Chimera to be as good as a lockbox/Fleet ship.
EDIT: This obviously goes for the KDF and Rom versions as well.
The JHEC has essentially the same, but better boff seating than the Chimera.
The JHEC has 10 console slots.
The JHEC has a hangar.
The JHEC has +10% HP and Shields HP, being a lockbox/fleet level ship.
The Chimera Gets a Phaser Lotus, that is only really effective in the hands of a Tactical Captain (and costs a whopping 75 power to use, and costs a console slot, where the JHEC gets its ability, a fighter, for free).
Please Buff the Chimera to Fleet Level, and possibly add a hangar slot; You're getting about as much money per Chimera as you are JHEC, so it only makes sense for the Chimera to be as good as a lockbox/Fleet ship.
EDIT: This obviously goes for the KDF and Rom versions as well.
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Things like the fact that the Chimera, while in Tac mode has a boost to accuracy making it one of the highest accuracy ships in the game. On top of that you can flip it into recon mode for a boost to shields. There's also the fact that there are two nice powers rolled into it, the phaser lotus which is BO + BFAW for a nasty aoe and the tachyon inversion beams which can strip the shields off ships around you + seriously heal your own. Plus these two powers don't share a cooldown.
On top of that, the Chimera is far more versatile than the JHEC, with not one, but two universal BO slots, one of which is Lt.Cmd. Where the Chimera shines is in it's ability to take on a wide variety of builds. There are plenty of ships that fill a particular roll better than the Chimera, but the Chimera can preform a lot more roles.
Honestly it's sounds like looking for something that the Chimera isn't. You seem to hold the JHEC as your ideal build. If you're looking for something more Federation, I recommend you consider the Fleet Armitage, which is also a heavy escort carrier.
What would you pick as the tenth console? I'd say Science, to keep up with the theme that it can be in multiple roles.
No hangars please. Honestly the next Fed hangar ship should be a Starfleet carrier with its own Frigates, or a Caitian styled HEC.
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This is how i also feel (but please don't put it in tier 5 ship-yard)
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I do agree with adding a 10th slot. Considering the vesta and kumari have 10, and possibly the oddy(I do not own the oddy) and there will never be a fleet variant for those two.
However I think the Hull and shields are fine as is.
Right not its a 8 console ship, because you really shouldn't remove the transformation console.
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Way to misread/interpret. The argument is to make the 1000 day vet reward exclusive on par with fleet ships, not to stick a fleet version of it in the fleet store.
Pay no attention to the dates and titles under my name at the left! I am a Career Officer, Lifetime Sub since launch, was in the Beta. Having problems with my forum account.
Actually it's a 10 console ship, the current console is worth 2 consoles.
Pay no attention to the dates and titles under my name at the left! I am a Career Officer, Lifetime Sub since launch, was in the Beta. Having problems with my forum account.
I was thinking science as well for the same reason.
Ideally they would just buff the version we have to fleet status, but if they insisted on making us purchase a fleet version, they could still keep the purchase option exclusive to veterans.
I did toy with the idea for a while of suggesting a more drastic difference between tactical and regenerative mode. I figured that while in regenerative mode it could have higher hull but a slower turn rate, but when it entered tactical mode, it would expose more vulnerable hardpoints but the impulse engines angle would to increasing turn rate.
That said, I decided it was probably too complicated a request. I would just be happy with fleet stats.
Heck, I'd love to have one :P
All of this = Happy :P:D
Yeah I think Science too, makes more of a balance.
Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
Keep in mind that the Chimera is a veteran reward, so 1000-day veterans too.
You know this how? Doesn't bother me either way, its the console that makes the ship special, without the console you might as well fly a AE, TE, or HEC...all are better than a Dynamic Tactical System-less Chimera.
Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
In all three factions we should have a science and cruiser version of a lifer ship. This escorts only club is getting out of hand and it's an insult to the rest of us.
Every starship has a purpose and we shouldn't be limited to only one as a reward for becoming a lifetime member.
As a science captain I want a science lifetime veteran option. I spent the money and the time here it's only fair. and yes I'm one of the few actual 1k vets left.
I imagine they'd do something where Veterans get a special ship token or something, and probably just need one FSM to get the Fleet Chimera.
They could make it something outlandish like 6-8 fleet modules, wouldn't be worth it to people without the console which would get the discount to 1 fleet module.
They are certainly competitive ships, but they should be boosted a tad to reflect the power creep that's occurred since they were created. The Pegh'qu would certainly benefit from having its shields boosted. . .a .833 shield mod is pitiful compared to what even KDF fleet destroyers/raptors have.
Oh, and since nobody else has mention this little benefit the veteran ships get: They have a .22 impulse mod. Think about that. Only other ship that goes that fast is the JHAS. A .22 impulse mod is certainly not worthless, as it enables for more speed tanking and makes it harder to keep up in a fight.
Not really, the pegh has the same shield mod as a tier 5 raptor and has battlecloak...and the hegh only have a shield mod of .8
So its still pretty superior...if any changes to it I would love it if they reduced the cooldown on the lotus and inversion beam.
Fleet store or not I would love them if they were boosted to fleet ship status.
Edit: or some set console slots with some as universal.
That would be extremely OP...could you imagine a ship with 9 tac consoles...there would be no other ship in the game that could come close to that kind of damage...it would make the Scimitar look like a little Dacoit.
If no hull boost, then 1.3 shield mod.
No ship has all of that. Just to take the guess work out, I can tell you what stats the Chimera would get if it got a fleet version:
Hull: 38000
Shield Modifier: 1.0
Consoles: 4 Tac, 3, Sci, 3 Eng
On a side note, I've been trying to convince CaptainGeko to release a purchasable fleet version of the vet ships for 1 fleet module+20,000 FC for vets/lifetimers. (So treating it like a C-Store ship)
Problem is, a "fleet" Chimera / Pegh'qu would be pushing Lock Box levels (fleet stats + very powerful special ability), and I think that the lockbox ships actually work out as more expensive than an LTS (if they're dropping at 1 per 2-300 boxes).
This would make me very, very happy.
chimera would only become "on the par" with them.
and btw. its already very expensive to get, you know?