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theblurch
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I didn't know if it's something that is worth doing at lvl 50 for the rewards. I'm about to hit 50 and would like to know what I need to be doing next for advancement.
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I strongly advise you steer clear of PvP for now, particularly if this is your first character in STO. When you reach the level cap, the primary avenues of development now open to you are the Reputation systems. PvP is certainly not the fastest way to earn EC or Dilithium; it could be considered to be the ultimate end-game. Frankly, PvP is not balanced in favour of newcomers, as experienced PvPers will likely be armed with some of the best gear in-game and have an edge with the Reputation bonuses.
The Reputation system permits you to earn Reputation Marks for participating in PvE events; turning in marks rewards you with Reputation points, and by earning points, your reputation tiers increase, unlocking new passive ship powers and equipment projects to purchase some of the game's premium gear.
If you are a member of a Fleet, running Fleet missions/events awards Fleet Marks with a very similar mechanic to the Reputation system. Fleet projects level up your Fleet's starbase, which in turn opens up various facilities, services, and (most importantly) stores to buy Fleet gear - some of the most expensive and powerful gear in the game alongside Reputation gear and lockbox (dual-proc) weapons.
If you haven't done so already, you may like to check out some of the Foundry missions for variety from time to time.
TL;DR: PvP is easily the least accessible content in the game.
Clearly you never tried pvp if you say gear is keeping people away from pvp.I have a healer engineer with blue consoles mk XI you get from episodes.As long you have a free boff trainer and few ec you can pvp.
In team pvp those passive help but are not essential.
you can join pvp boot camp (http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/forumdisplay.php?f=351 ) where you will learn how even if with cheap gear you can have fun and be competitive.
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As a PVP person (and not saying I'm some sort of PVP God... i'm far from it), having new players is essential. As with any development team, numbers talk... PVP needs to expand its ranks, and be inviting to people looking to start.
Now, OP... your first experiences will be ... humbling... there are some seriously skilled PVP players out there... If you are an accomplished PVE player, you will undoubtedly have a vision of your ship and build as somewhere between "Pretty decent" to "ultimately bad-TRIBBLE"... there is nothing better than a PVP match or two to beat that (literally) out of you.
Do not be afraid to ask questions, get advice... you do run the risk of getting a variety of responses. From flame, to extremely helpful... just keep at it.. read the forums, post questions... it can be a very fun experience.
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Not humbling, just aggravating. I have been PvPing in this game for 3 years and I can tell you that PvP is just not worth the effort. You encounter some very sad excuses for human beings who think they somehow have skill because they've shelled out in time (a ridiculously long time) or taken the easy route (which 99% of plays do but don't admit to) to get the best equipment and usually ships out of the lockboxes.
PvP in this game is broken beyond repair, you cannot fly a ship that is not a lockbox or latter C-Store vessel (Vesta, Kumari... etc) and really hope to survive. The player base is frankly pretty disgusting too, the way you get spoken to is revolting and its an all round unpleasant experience.
There are several PvP "Fleets" if you can call them that, I would just refer to them as "Exploit hunters" that excel at just ruining PvP for everyone by taking the game too seriously.
Its not all bad... Get a Wells, go back 3 years and then PvP and you will have some great fun. Pre-lockbox PvP was awesome and fun to do.
as far as in game rewards are concerned: Not really. I mean you can always find people in the accolades channel to do PvP dailies with. Which means ground, without shields and armor so it is faster. Under these fake matches DIl rewards are ok, and FM mediocre at best.
As far as enjoyment and learning about the game are concerned its a strange question to ask. Either you play an MMO and want to go up against other players or you don't. If you can handle the frustration of loosing (you will loose, everybody does) its self generating end game content far more challenging and varied then anything NPC can hope to be.
If you can't stand loosing AND you don't want to invest time and practice the question answers itself. PvP might not be your cup of tea.
You should not that with the rep systems, you need to do a lot of PvE in STO to be competitive at endgame PvP. Being competitive and having fun, however, are not synonyms.
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Be prepared to be taunted - and or thrown insults if you die alot - teammates don't like that.
If you can - be in a fleet that does some grouped PvP matches - this might be the best way to handle the steep learning curve and not get punished so severly.
PvP is very competative and there are lots of armchair warriors that love to blow people up and make them feel bad.
Try out the PvP bootcamps - look in the PvP section of the forums.
Most important - if you find it is something that you like - don't give up in frustration because you are getting destroyed - try learning and asking questions.
you pvp in this game (sto) like I go every sunday on the Moon to check the US flag :rolleyes:
you pvp for 3 years and dont stop ,you just keep going and going and going ...and QQ and going and going.
I see you want to be good without speding time to learn .I guess you are outside space time ,because when I play pvp it takes from my free time.
There's really no point in PvP other than ego hunting in this game.
Now if they would only remove it all together lol.
Your Javelin deals 125417 (89066) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Tholian Recluse. > lol
In PvP I learned how to play STO. It's brutal and absolutely unforgiving, but if you are not prone to ragequitting and have fun at tweaking your build until you faceroll those TRIBBLE who killed you over and over again before, then it's the right place for you. If you are however one of those guys who can't stand losing once in a while and think that just because you managed to beat the campaign you should be invincible then you better stay away. It will only make you grumpy like johngazman and urniv821
or you can play pvp and deal with egos.
goodluck
Your Javelin deals 125417 (89066) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Tholian Recluse. > lol
And you can always play Ground PvP as well - Space is more popular, but GPvP is fun too.
Just be sure to check out the PvP section of the forums for more info (it might also help to read them to find out if PvP is "worth it").
Can't say i've had the badluck of getting into a STF with the crazed people you mention. I generally (90%) have an easy time, optional and all.
More so have the bad luck of not possessing the will to obsess over my ship to, realistically, compete in PvP. Sure you can get into the random PvP PuG in which it isnt so bad.
Guess it depends which side you stand on.. either you PvP and make it your life's purpose, squeezing everything out of your ship, and using those IMO cheap massive keybinds .. or PvE and never have to obsess over meaningless PvP combat.
Your Javelin deals 125417 (89066) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Tholian Recluse. > lol
It can be an easy way to rack up some Dilithium and if you do not care about going BOOM and just enjoy shooting the living poo out of other players and getting shot at then I would say go for it.
Rule #1 of STO PvP: It is not balanced and not fair, so don't take it seriously.
If you can't just have fun with it then do not bother.
I get into bouts where I play a decent amount of PvP before getting bored and moving on. Mechanically, I enjoy the challenge of PvP, but I don't like dealing with the other players much. Never have I heard so much whining or so much empty, meaningless boasting. It's more fun if you just turn off private messaging, local, and zone, so you don't have to deal with the bad attitudes and concentrate just on the action. You can learn a lot.
As for being worth it...to me it is. To others in this thread it obviously is not. Your best bet, IMO, is to find a good fleet that does both PvE and PvP and run with them. Urniv and patrickngo both have really good points. Ego's can run rampant in both PvE and PvP...that can ruin the experience for anyone. Me personally, I have zone and local chat turned off no matter where I am in the game, but I do have team chat turned on in PvP so I can see the target that is called. PvP is about team work after all...:D
So I would say, OP, give PvP a try. As has been said, you will die alot at the beginning and you will most likely get frustrated. If you enjoy it, stick with it, you will get better eventually. If not...move on to another part of STO endgame.
Good luck, however you decide
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