A thought: perhaps the Romulan Republic should let in a LIMITED number of other species to have commissions in the Romulan Republic Fleet, similar to the French Foreign Legion.
It makes sense as the Romulan Republic fleet would want to provide for the defense of New Romulus and all the threats in Tau Dewa and beyond.
Allowed Races:
Vulcans: This would help bring the Unification story to full realization. This should NOT be done haphazardly, but rather as part of a FE series on Reunification or a standalone episode maybe for the 4th anniversary.
Joined Trill: These are already cross-faction with the KDF, so creating them in the Romulan Republic makes sense. One would think D'Tan would be very keen on having highly experienced and long-lived people give wisdom to the RRF and help them see there is a better way.
Can't think of any other races where this would be appropriate really. But those would be a grand start.
Some mechanics:
Vulcans and Joined Trills DO NOT begin as members of the Romulan Republic (i.e. you can't create a level 1 toon in the RR of this race). They do not do the whole Virinat story unless they choose to replay.
The idea is they are L50 characters in Starfleet (or KDF if Joined Trill) and resign their commission to join after achieving T5 New Romulus reputation (i.e. D'Tan extends them an offer).
The decision to leave Starfleet or KDF and join the Romulan Republic is a permanent, one-time choice just like the Romulan allegiance choice.
Vulcan players in the Romulan Republic ally with the Federation automatically and cannot select Klingon allegiance. Joined Trill can join either allegiance.
You can't join if you have any T5 Starfleet or KDF vessels commissioned. You must dismiss them and from that point on, you fly Republic warbirds, Singularity cores and all.
Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and the players love it! No, seriously! ...Why are you laughing so hard?
I really hope stuff like this doesn't happen, there is no need for it. I rather see more people wanting to just play Romulan and Reman so the faction looks more like it should instead of like a zoo. Just remove the ridges from a Romulan and it looks Vulcan anyway. Trill shouldn't be available at all, it would make less sense then KDF Trills. That was sort of explainable because Curzon Dax was respected by Klingons, but there is no Trill that has that kind of respect from Romulans.
A thought: perhaps the Romulan Republic should let in a LIMITED number of other species to have commissions in the Romulan Republic Fleet, similar to the French Foreign Legion.
It makes sense as the Romulan Republic fleet would want to provide for the defense of New Romulus and all the threats in Tau Dewa and beyond.
Allowed Races:
Vulcans: This would help bring the Unification story to full realization. This should NOT be done haphazardly, but rather as part of a FE series on Reunification or a standalone episode maybe for the 4th anniversary.
Joined Trill: These are already cross-faction with the KDF, so creating them in the Romulan Republic makes sense. One would think D'Tan would be very keen on having highly experienced and long-lived people give wisdom to the RRF and help them see there is a better way.
Can't think of any other races where this would be appropriate really. But those would be a grand start.
would never work on either case.
Vulcans see the actions of the RR as illogical for the moment and supporting them is also just as illogical.
Trills? why? because jadzia play acted as one, and since when would the romulans want trills to fight for them? it would be a sign of weakness for the new leadership to just induct anyone. you may as well induct humans and klingons while you are at it since the idea is the same, since there is no real reason to do it.
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I've always found these discussions confusing... with the "alien" option on the character creator available for Fed, Klingon and Romulan you can create anything you want, call it anything you want, make it look like anything you wish and assign whatever traits you want.
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I've always found these discussions confusing... with the "alien" option on the character creator available for Fed, Klingon and Romulan you can create anything you want, call it anything you want, make it look like anything you wish and assign whatever traits you want.
^^This
I have a klingon/rommie hybrid on my ship.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
Joined Trills can help Romulans from where they are.
I say - let's add Suliban. Intelligent people without homeworld. We could find a common ground.
I agree. I would go so far as to say the Romulan Republic should just be Romulan and maybe Reman. I do not like what was done with the Klingon Defense Force either. It should have been Klingons period. The KDF and Romulan empires are being reshaped to be too much like the Federation. The Federation is the conglomeration of several species working together for their betterment. Why play KDF and not play a Klingon, why play Romulan Republic and not play a Romulan/Reman? I can't quite figure it out. My only assumption is that people who want these options are not strict followers of the Star Trek television shows. Anyway, just my opinion.
While there are certain canon refrences to Klingon subject races (that one episode of Enterprise springs to mind) Orion and Gorn were probibly added so people could play those races without having to install mini factions.
Everywhere I look, people are screaming about how bad Cryptic is.
What's my position?
That people should know what they're screaming about!
(paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
It confounds me as to why so many players obsess over the options available to other players. If you don't like Trill playing for the KDF, then don't play one. Mind your own business.
Trills are super pacifists, and don't make a lick of sense joining the Republic.
Neither does Vulcans outside of a few whom may believe in Spocks teachings and in the reunification, but they would likely be in very few numbers.
The Alien Generator can be explained away by them being mercenaries, or refuges subjugated by the Empire now living with the Republic out of necessity, but lets not make it any worse than it is.
We shall however welcome (subjugate) the lost Sulibans to the Republic. They might make good spies if it is the genetically enhanced ones.
I agree. I would go so far as to say the Romulan Republic should just be Romulan and maybe Reman. I do not like what was done with the Klingon Defense Force either. It should have been Klingons period. The KDF and Romulan empires are being reshaped to be too much like the Federation. The Federation is the conglomeration of several species working together for their betterment. Why play KDF and not play a Klingon, why play Romulan Republic and not play a Romulan/Reman? I can't quite figure it out. My only assumption is that people who want these options are not strict followers of the Star Trek television shows. Anyway, just my opinion.
I agree with this lets not water down the "Romulan faction" anymore than it already is.
People are suggesting this because this is a GAME, an MMO to go even further.
In MMO's especially people want choice, the KDF has so many races to give people choice, I for one want the option of a Vulcan or Joined Trill for the Republic, because it means choice.
It confounds me as to why so many players obsess over the options available to other players. If you don't like Trill playing for the KDF, then don't play one. Mind your own business.
This, if you don't like it, don't play it, don't decide for others what you think they should play.
Romulans are a very xenophobic isolationist culture. D'tan and his merry bunch of hippies know thy have o break with some tradition and cultural "programming" in order to establish this New Romulus order.
They have allied with the Feds and Klingons before when the fate of all hung in the balance so it makes sense they would seek help from them, but to open up to all aliens, no way. Part of the mystery and intrigue of Romulans is their isolationist ways. We've already lost some of that not having all the secrets of the Tal Shiar and the senate.
People are suggesting this because this is a GAME, an MMO to go even further.
In MMO's especially people want choice, the KDF has so many races to give people choice, I for one want the option of a Vulcan or Joined Trill for the Republic, because it means choice.
Canon be damned.
This, if you don't like it, don't play it, don't decide for others what you think they should play.
You aren't really exempt from that either. If you don't like the way Romulans are portrayed, you have plenty of opportunity with the Federation and Klingons to play, where you have your choice. :rolleyes:
I used the alien generator to create a human character whose own misfortunes landed him on Virinat some eight months before the Tal Shiar invaded. According to the backstory I created for the character, she was flying an old Dominion-War surplus runabout (that she purchased from a crooked Ferengi salesman) called the "Lucky Lou" that was ambushed by Nausicaan pirates. The pirates had knocked out her weapons and navigation, so the best she could do was a blind warp to get away from them, which is how she ended up in the Virinat system. She found a Romulan farming colony there, where she made a few friends and ended up staying there and helping the colonists. Of course it did take a while for the Romulans to get used to having a human among them, but by the time the Tal Shiar attack, they Romulans of Virinat colony considered Lorina Lee almost as one of them.
no no no just no you want to play Vulcans play a fed
mmos don't give in to this type of stuff in wow do horde get to play druids? do ally get to play blood elf? dose horde get to play huumans? its just a game...... if you was thinking no ding ding your right !!!!!
People are suggesting this because this is a GAME, an MMO to go even further.
In MMO's especially people want choice, the KDF has so many races to give people choice, I for one want the option of a Vulcan or Joined Trill for the Republic, because it means choice.
Canon be damned.
This, if you don't like it, don't play it, don't decide for others what you think they should play.
It's a two-way street. Your "choices" infringe on my enjoyment of a culturally homogenous and xenophobic Romulan Republic.
Your choices be damned, I'd like to play a game that respects the IP it's based on. If I wanted to play a generic sci-fi game, there are plenty of options available.
I was told in what I call the Star Empire thread to use my imagination well now the tables have turned you can use the alien gene pool and make all the sexy trills Vulcans huuumans and andorians you want if like I been told in the star empire thread if I don't like it don't play it same now applies here
It confounds me as to why so many players obsess over the options available to other players. If you don't like Trill playing for the KDF, then don't play one. Mind your own business.
Because it makes the factions hub look dumb, its bad enough they allow aliens already.
You aren't really exempt from that either. If you don't like the way Romulans are portrayed, you have plenty of opportunity with the Federation and Klingons to play, where you have your choice. :rolleyes:
In case you had not noticed it from my signature, my choice has already been made, for myself, I am quite happy with my Liberated Borg Romulan, so in the end, whether or not these options ARE pushed through is of little consequence to me.
However, as I said, in MMO's, people want choice, Cryptic knows this and will without even a second of doubt give people that choice.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the Trekkies, however vocal they may be.
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Vulcans are FED. Period.
Joined Trills can help Romulans from where they are.
I say - let's add Suliban. Intelligent people without homeworld. We could find a common ground.
would never work on either case.
Vulcans see the actions of the RR as illogical for the moment and supporting them is also just as illogical.
Trills? why? because jadzia play acted as one, and since when would the romulans want trills to fight for them? it would be a sign of weakness for the new leadership to just induct anyone. you may as well induct humans and klingons while you are at it since the idea is the same, since there is no real reason to do it.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I have a human and trill on my ship - what of it?
Hello bonus to subsystem repair and a fully trained Tac officer with CRF3 and TS3.
^^This
I have a klingon/rommie hybrid on my ship.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
I agree. I would go so far as to say the Romulan Republic should just be Romulan and maybe Reman. I do not like what was done with the Klingon Defense Force either. It should have been Klingons period. The KDF and Romulan empires are being reshaped to be too much like the Federation. The Federation is the conglomeration of several species working together for their betterment. Why play KDF and not play a Klingon, why play Romulan Republic and not play a Romulan/Reman? I can't quite figure it out. My only assumption is that people who want these options are not strict followers of the Star Trek television shows. Anyway, just my opinion.
What's my position?
That people should know what they're screaming about!
(paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
It confounds me as to why so many players obsess over the options available to other players. If you don't like Trill playing for the KDF, then don't play one. Mind your own business.
Neither does Vulcans outside of a few whom may believe in Spocks teachings and in the reunification, but they would likely be in very few numbers.
The Alien Generator can be explained away by them being mercenaries, or refuges subjugated by the Empire now living with the Republic out of necessity, but lets not make it any worse than it is.
We shall however welcome (subjugate) the lost Sulibans to the Republic. They might make good spies if it is the genetically enhanced ones.
I agree with this lets not water down the "Romulan faction" anymore than it already is.
In MMO's especially people want choice, the KDF has so many races to give people choice, I for one want the option of a Vulcan or Joined Trill for the Republic, because it means choice.
Canon be damned.
This, if you don't like it, don't play it, don't decide for others what you think they should play.
Player specific bridge crew....Why the hell not?
Romulans are a very xenophobic isolationist culture. D'tan and his merry bunch of hippies know thy have o break with some tradition and cultural "programming" in order to establish this New Romulus order.
They have allied with the Feds and Klingons before when the fate of all hung in the balance so it makes sense they would seek help from them, but to open up to all aliens, no way. Part of the mystery and intrigue of Romulans is their isolationist ways. We've already lost some of that not having all the secrets of the Tal Shiar and the senate.
You aren't really exempt from that either. If you don't like the way Romulans are portrayed, you have plenty of opportunity with the Federation and Klingons to play, where you have your choice. :rolleyes:
mmos don't give in to this type of stuff in wow do horde get to play druids? do ally get to play blood elf? dose horde get to play huumans? its just a game...... if you was thinking no ding ding your right !!!!!
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It's a two-way street. Your "choices" infringe on my enjoyment of a culturally homogenous and xenophobic Romulan Republic.
Your choices be damned, I'd like to play a game that respects the IP it's based on. If I wanted to play a generic sci-fi game, there are plenty of options available.
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Because it makes the factions hub look dumb, its bad enough they allow aliens already.
all you see the advantage the crewman brings and not the reason. unless ofcourse you were attempting to be sarcastic.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
let the kdf have them
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Yay! Free plastic surgery for the KDF... iron out your ridges from the pesky Augmentation Virus
ya kdf could use a make over imo
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In case you had not noticed it from my signature, my choice has already been made, for myself, I am quite happy with my Liberated Borg Romulan, so in the end, whether or not these options ARE pushed through is of little consequence to me.
However, as I said, in MMO's, people want choice, Cryptic knows this and will without even a second of doubt give people that choice.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the Trekkies, however vocal they may be.
system Lord Baal is dead