Shrink Ships in Sector Space?

hrisvalar

So, while sector space has had an overhaul or two since then, the scales of the ships in sector space doesn't seem to have been adjusted since launch. At launch though, no player ship available was larger than a Galaxy class*, and since then, we got the Odyssey, Bortasqu', Caitian Carrier, Jem'Hadar battleship, the latest Borgulan monstrosity and a whole lot of Romulan wide-loads.

The result has been pile-ups. Zoning into Sector space from a social or faction, like ESD, Qo'noS, Drozana, DS9, etc, now tends to put you right in the middle of a cluster of idling players, in ships that block an awful lot of space, and can make breaking free quite the hassle if you're in a big ship yourself. (My Assault Cruiser never before felt so dainty.)

Anyway, I propose all ships have their dimensions halved in sector space. (Or make sector space bigger, same principle.) That should put it all back roughly where it was. (And it'll make it look like we're going faster, which is always good. Maybe.)

Edit: * I forgot about the KDF carriers there. Still, those were relatively few and far apart compared to the current state of the game, and with the RR ships the width is where most of the problem lies.

requiemfang

Either scale them down, lower the collision hit box or make it so that there is no collision at all in sector space will solve the traffic clog/jam. And I know it's very annoying when you want to go some place and someone is in your way.

psycoticvulcan

Sure, why not?

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robrocks1

The worst offender is the mogai. Due to it being so wide, when it warps into a map alongside another ship their collision boxes overlap catastrophically.

What happens is both ships will shunt sideways at high speed locked together because they are too deeply clipped together for the usual physics bouncing to separate them.

I've ended up strafing across an entire sector at about warp 15 before I managed to free myself from an odyssey.

jetwtf

It did get interesting right after LOR was launched to get in and out of ESD with a few dozen mogai and derp'dex ships all idling about. Never before have i gotten stuck in traffic with my fleet tactical escort until i had romulan ships surrounding me. was a minigame of find the hole in the colission and I lost that game.

Then the other day a fleet mate was level 29 and excited he would be getting a new ship. told him "I hope you enjoy getting stuck in traffic" An hour later "Augh I'm stuck trying to get to ESD".

What I think would be another solution is make the spawn locations larger and multiple different ones in different spots. This way there is no huge crowd in one spot but smaller groups in multiple. This way you wont warp into the center of 20-30 idling ships.

johnsteward

robrocks1 wrote: »

The worst offender is the mogai. Due to it being so wide, when it warps into a map alongside another ship their collision boxes overlap catastrophically.

What happens is both ships will shunt sideways at high speed locked together because they are too deeply clipped together for the usual physics bouncing to separate them.

I've ended up strafing across an entire sector at about warp 15 before I managed to free myself from an odyssey.

i had the same thing happen to me on more than one occasion, fixing this would be nice.

I also agree with scaling down ships in sector space and while they are at it, increasing the padding between spawning ships, to give them a little more space to move around like having a wider space between spawnpoints such that even the biggest ships fit in between

szerontzur

I have found that the D'ridthau's phasing console is incredibly useful in system space for getting through the traffic jam of the massive Romulan ships and their excessive bounding boxes. ..If only I could use it in sector space.

commanderkassy

hrisvalar wrote: »

So, while sector space has had an overhaul or two since then, the scales of the ships in sector space doesn't seem to have been adjusted since launch. At launch though, no player ship available was larger than a Galaxy class*, and since then, we got the Odyssey, Bortasqu', Caitian Carrier, Jem'Hadar battleship, the latest Borgulan monstrosity and a whole lot of Romulan wide-loads.

The result has been pile-ups. Zoning into Sector space from a social or faction, like ESD, Qo'noS, Drozana, DS9, etc, now tends to put you right in the middle of a cluster of idling players, in ships that block an awful lot of space, and can make breaking free quite the hassle if you're in a big ship yourself. (My Assault Cruiser never before felt so dainty.)

Anyway, I propose all ships have their dimensions halved in sector space. (Or make sector space bigger, same principle.) That should put it all back roughly where it was. (And it'll make it look like we're going faster, which is always good. Maybe.)

Edit: * I forgot about the KDF carriers there. Still, those were relatively few and far apart compared to the current state of the game, and with the RR ships the width is where most of the problem lies.

Agreed for all kinds of reasons. I already thought ships in sector space should be 1/4 the size, to increase the feeling of speed, size of the sector, etc. These new pile-ups are just one more reason.

smokeybacon90

How about smaller ships and no collision boxes at all? Even with planets. It is very annoying when one is doing the tour and inadvertently hits some planet, slowing them to a standstill.

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sirokk

smokeybacon90 wrote: »

How about smaller ships and no collision boxes at all? Even with planets. It is very annoying when one is doing the tour and inadvertently hits some planet, slowing them to a standstill.

Let's just shrink down the cruisers so they take up less space (and double their turn rate while your at it!) :P

Regarding hitting planets...

There needs to be a "emergency override zone" that forces your ship to not get closer to the planets. BOffs are supposed to be smart enough to not let the ship crash, right? Through their training in Starfleet, right?

The game engine can "deflect" the ship BEFORE it touches the planet, instead of grinding along the surface. This will also help with the immersion, you won't realize that most planets are just a little bigger than ESD.

mozoha

I like the idea of shrinking ships in sector space, then we would not feel so oversized as we approach a system and it would feel more like 'space', instead of a mall parking lot at Christmas.