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PSA - Shrapnel Torpedo Launcher

magniacapramagniacapra Member Posts: 544 Arc User
edited June 2013 in PvP Gameplay
If your thinking of getting the Tal Shiar Adapted Destroyer because you like the sound of the Shrapnel Torpedo Launcher - stop, read, and reconsider.

The Shrapnel Torpedo Launcher is possibly the worst Universal Console in the game.
Notable facts:

3 minute cool down

Torpedos do about 200 damage to shields and have pretty low accuracy

Even with hull regen nerfed you don't notice any bleed through damage

The visual effect is too small in comparison to the ship - looks more like mosqitos buzzing around a ship twice as long as an amassador (but with DHCs!?) than the torpedo's that ruined the Enterprise A in the JJverse and with a 3 minute cool down, even as a cosmetic effect it limited. - Would have preferred a console that had a 10 second cooldown and did 0 damage and a scaled up visual than what we actually have.

So, there you have it, a universal console so bad I'd rather use a *insert worst none universal console in here*

Not really asking for this module to be fixed, just a warning to those excited by the consoles description not to get your hopes up. :cool:

Other than that, the ship is fine. :)
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    So it's a console even worse than the Swarm Missile attack (which at least can be tac-buffed to a decent damage and looks pretty) off the Battle Module 3000?

    It's not even worth using to pretend to be Nero?
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  • lostusthornlostusthorn Member Posts: 844
    edited May 2013
    So, just like the ferengi rapid fire missiles, but even more useless?
  • mreeves7amreeves7a Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The problem with the Shrapnel Torpedo isn't so much the amount of damage (my Sci toon can get 14k kinetic damage with 50% shield bypass on it) but how it gets split up. The skill fires 9 destructible missiles, however, if there are more targets than one in range, it splits the group up. The only way to get the full tool tip damage on one target is to use it when only a single foe is in the firing arc.

    Perhaps if people feel that the shrapnel torpedo is too weak, maybe have the console give 2 skills, the AoE barrage that we currently have and a moderately weaker single target only barrage.
  • magniacapramagniacapra Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    mreeves7a wrote: »
    The problem with the Shrapnel Torpedo isn't so much the amount of damage (my Sci toon can get 14k kinetic damage with 50% shield bypass on it) but how it gets split up. The skill fires 9 destructible missiles, however, if there are more targets than one in range, it splits the group up. The only way to get the full tool tip damage on one target is to use it when only a single foe is in the firing arc.

    Perhaps if people feel that the shrapnel torpedo is too weak, maybe have the console give 2 skills, the AoE barrage that we currently have and a moderately weaker single target only barrage.

    14k damage.... Every 3 minutes.... Compare that to a been cluster torpedo....

    This thing is shocking. The visuals don't even look right.
  • illcadiaillcadia Member Posts: 1,412 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Conversely, the indoctrination nanite console from the battlecruiser is awesome
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    illcadia wrote: »
    Conversely, the indoctrination nanite console from the battlecruiser is awesome

    Couple questions:

    Can it be tac-buffed? (The damage aspect)
    Can it crit?
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    pwlaughingtrendy wrote:
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Couple questions:

    Can it be tac-buffed? (The damage aspect)
    Can it crit?

    Will it blend?

    Seriously though, what's the magnitude on the 3 pc part gen bonus, if you don't mind posting it up?
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lostusthorn wrote: »
    So, just like the ferengi rapid fire missiles, but even more useless?

    Well TRIBBLE. I had some spare lobi and just bought this......
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  • disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Well TRIBBLE. I had some spare lobi and just bought this......

    Its actually not that bad. its just more of a pressure weapon for those who don't have/want torpedo skills.

    Does about the same dps as the cutting beam I think. And at a 180 degree arc
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  • saxfiresaxfire Member Posts: 558 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    beter buy 1-3 destroyers just for the consoles and switch them when out of combat for faster cooldowns, sure 300m into the air :P they should allow us to reclaim all lockbox consoles that we have unlocked in our characters.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    disposeableh3r0 wrote: »
    Its actually not that bad. its just more of a pressure weapon for those who don't have/want torpedo skills.

    Does about the same dps as the cutting beam I think. And at a 180 degree arc

    I will admit, I did buy it becuase it sounded cool...
    Thanks for the info.:)
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  • magniacapramagniacapra Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    disposeableh3r0 wrote: »
    Its actually not that bad. its just more of a pressure weapon for those who don't have/want torpedo skills.

    Does about the same dps as the cutting beam I think. And at a 180 degree arc

    More like 10% of the cutting beam DPS.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I will admit, I did buy it becuase it sounded cool...
    Thanks for the info.:)

    It's pretty at least when you use Torp Spread 3 with it. Lots and lots of missiles spreading out in a giant fan in front of you.
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    pwlaughingtrendy wrote:
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    It's pretty at least when you use Torp Spread 3 with it. Lots and lots of missiles spreading out in a giant fan in front of you.

    Ooooh, that I would be interested in seeing. Take a picture!
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    It's pretty at least when you use Torp Spread 3 with it. Lots and lots of missiles spreading out in a giant fan in front of you.

    I like pretty.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    praxi5 wrote: »
    Ooooh, that I would be interested in seeing. Take a picture!
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I like pretty.

    Sure, not an issue. I've just never successfully managed to take a screen shot in STO itself. So if someone could help me out a bit with that (and maybe where to post the picture), I'd appreciate it.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    A mime is a terrible thing to waste
    pwlaughingtrendy wrote:
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Member Posts: 1,728 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Personally for my i was very Underwhelmed by the shrapnel torpedo all together, especially since it's on the harder to obtain ship. The visuals aren't that great since you can't really see them, the damage isn't that great, the cooldown is too long for how little it did, and as of yet on my SCI, i can see the numbers fluctuate, but i cant figure out why so boosting it's DPS is a bit difficult. I didn't even know it worked with the Torp powers, is it just spread or does HY work on it as well?


    Maybe they should add the Proc of the other console as well? give it a % to each hit that would cause the weapons of any ship hit to start firing at the other ships? Personally i think this would be the better proc in general for nanite weapons rather than making them just Disruptors with a bleed through as well as make it it's own weapon type altogether.
  • disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I will admit, I did buy it becuase it sounded cool...
    Thanks for the info.:)

    No problem. On a side note the rule 62 console from that set also seems to be the only thing that boosts the cutting beam. Or at least it was, havent looked since all the patching.
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  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited May 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Sure, not an issue. I've just never successfully managed to take a screen shot in STO itself. So if someone could help me out a bit with that (and maybe where to post the picture), I'd appreciate it.
    Hit the Print Scrn (Print Screen) button on your keyboard.

    It should then save a screenshot in your game folder. I can't give you the correct path, since I'm at work.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    shookyang wrote: »
    Hit the Print Scrn (Print Screen) button on your keyboard.

    It should then save a screenshot in your game folder. I can't give you the correct path, since I'm at work.

    Well I know the path for my computer, so that can be found easily.

    Though for my keyboard, I think I'll have to hit Shift + Print Screen.

    Where should I upload these to?
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    pwlaughingtrendy wrote:
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • turalisj89turalisj89 Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Well I know the path for my computer, so that can be found easily.

    Though for my keyboard, I think I'll have to hit Shift + Print Screen.

    Where should I upload these to?

    Tinypic is my go-to for pictures.
  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Well I know the path for my computer, so that can be found easily.

    Though for my keyboard, I think I'll have to hit Shift + Print Screen.

    Where should I upload these to?

    Start typing /screenshot into your chat window, then select the option that you'd like.

    Imgur is the best image host, imo.
  • supergroverohpcsupergroverohpc Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Buffed it does okay damage I find, IDk why you guys are getting such low numbers. Not a great weapon but buffed I'll use it. My TT expired before I got the SS, (Stupid printscreen isnt working)

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  • theodrimtheodrim Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    wraithshadow13 wrote: »
    I didn't even know it worked with the Torp powers, is it just spread or does HY work on it as well?
    Well, that explains what happened during the assimilated carrier fight last time I ran CSE with it...

    That said, treat it more you would the PDS consoles, and not an extra torpedo as such. It's much better by comparison looking at it that way.

    Maybe they should add the Proc of the other console as well? give it a % to each hit that would cause the weapons of any ship hit to start firing at the other ships? Personally i think this would be the better proc in general for nanite weapons rather than making them just Disruptors with a bleed through as well as make it it's own weapon type altogether.
    I'd be overjoyed for it to work with torpedo doffs.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Alright, I'll try and make sure to take a picture of the missile soon. Maybe not tomorrow, if not, then sunday or monday.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    pwlaughingtrendy wrote:
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
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