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Who is Tovan Khev? Not You Ordinary BOff.
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Cryptic/PWE, I'm loving my Romulan experience, so far. However, I must admit to not being pleased with the BOff situation. In particular, Tovan Khev and the inability to customize him to my preferences. While I can see that you wanted a seamless experience for newer players, you failed to address the desires of more experienced STO players, by making all the choices for them.
I am very much hoping that you will release a patch which allows full customization of Khev, including the ability to discharge him.
Again, I am really enjoying my Romulan experience. Aside from this small criticism, I think you've done a bang up job and I thank you!
Note : It seems that the customization issue has been patched. Now, if we can gain the ability to discharge him, if we so desired, I would consider the matter completely resolved.
I am very much hoping that you will release a patch which allows full customization of Khev, including the ability to discharge him.
Again, I am really enjoying my Romulan experience. Aside from this small criticism, I think you've done a bang up job and I thank you!
Note : It seems that the customization issue has been patched. Now, if we can gain the ability to discharge him, if we so desired, I would consider the matter completely resolved.
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I dont even want that...I dont want to hear their story, the story is supposed to be about me the player.
Take a look at SWTOR...a lot of the games main features is intertwined. Companions, companion storylines, class storylines, main storylines, voiceover acting system and the quest dialogue system. The features are all great, but if too many things are tied together it could be a limitation that may affect future game development. Go to the SWTOR forums and ask about faction transfers, sex changes, getting new races, or getting new classes. In other games that stuff would be expected, but in SWTOR some of their own main features will be part of the reason you wont see that stuff i just listed...or if you do see it, development will take a long time.
Just look at how Tovan is affecting things. I thought people were overreacting so i kinda blew it off. But after completing chapter 1 and 2, i saw that the people complaining about him were right. But theres more to it then just 'we all hate Tovan'. You cant discharge him, even when he's not in your away team or in a BOFF slot you still get messages from him. And one i just saw today is that his voice will play but in the window i will see one of my other BOFFS or a generic andorian face with a weird name.
Pretty much i dont want him narrating my journey, giving out his opinion on what he thinks is right and wrong, and "suggesting" and giving me "recommendations" on what i should do. They should have taken a more generalized approach. By that i mean if we need somebody to narrate what we are about to do next so that the player doesnt get lost it should be done by us, any one of the BOFFS, Command or who ever we are directly reporting to at that time.
The part of the story where i finish decrypting the Tal Shiar files? Tovan says he recommends we go to Drozana Station. But why couldnt that have come from Romulan Command? "ohh you have some info? hmm see the commander at Drozana she is an expert at this stuff". Or when Tozan telling me to fight Emperor Selas control? this was a solo mission and i was still hearing his voice. Why couldnt it have been my inner voice (which in game is mute, but thats another issue) telling me to fight Selas control? A lot of the other TRIBBLE he says can easily be said by one of my BOFFS.
Any ways thats enough about him (for now)...after i finally realized how much of a pain he is I named one of my warbirds in his honor. So if you see the "R.R.W. Shut up Tovan" flying around on the server thats me. So flash your headlights...or honk your horn...or shoot some photon torpedoes at me i dunno, whatever it is spaceships do.
I'll take your Tovan. Mmmm... Khev sandwich...
For the Federation, it acts like a Service Record, so I can keep track of ranks, decorations and assignments.
For my Klingons, it helps in denoting Houses and loyalties.
For my Romulan crew, who are Privateers, it tells me their story and how they became a part of my crew. But, for Tovan Khev, I can't fill that information in, and it annoys me!
Please unlock the Biography Cryptic. It's the very least you could do.
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Too bad. Cryptic doesn't want you to EVER get rid of him. You're stuck with him permanently.
It's ****ed up and whoever thought that'd be a good idea deserves to be fired.
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From right to left that's Veril, Tovan, my captain, Satra, and Hiven.
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Got news for you, you CAN NOT discharge him.
Personally I love the story, because when playing a Romulan your crew, feels like your crew, not some throw away garbage like the Feds get. You definitely need to be able to customize him, but since voice overs use his name, I'm sure some parts need to stay as is.
If the episode limitations can't let you discharge him, then you should at least get a free Boff slot so you can safely ignore him and get real Boffs you want.
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That's not a bad idea. I'd still rather discharge him, though.
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I actually avoid success entirely. It doesn't get me what I want, and the consequences for failure are slim. -- markhawman
For my crew Tovan needs to be Tovanna.
STO Forum member since before February 2010.
STO Academy's excellent skill planner here: Link
I actually avoid success entirely. It doesn't get me what I want, and the consequences for failure are slim. -- markhawman
You're stuck with him. You can never, ever, ever, ever discharge him.
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I actually avoid success entirely. It doesn't get me what I want, and the consequences for failure are slim. -- markhawman
On my Reman, I was hoping to have an all Reman crew. Unfortunately I can't because I'm stuck with a Romulan First Officer who seems so utterly vital that even some missions I can't leave him in the brig...I mean bridge.
/sigh
Agree with the poster, it would have been nice if we could at least choose our own version of the Tovan character. Perhaps a Romulan Male, a Romulan Female, a Reman Male and a Reman Female, and the one one you choose is the one you get.
Also kind of annoying that we get saddled with Romulans in our first few missions, and can't choose Remans instead, while the Bridge Officer Vendor doesn't offer Remans either. Only Romulans.
Bummer.
"You shoot him, I shoot you, I leave both your bodies here and go out for a late night snack.
I'm thinking maybe pancakes." ~ John Casey
I would only replace Tovan if I had enough purple tacs with Superior operative, but they are kind of hard to come by.
They aren't "that" hard to come by.
I now have three BOffs with the Operative trait other than Tovan ... and those BOffs are the BOffs that I actually WANT, unlike Tovan who just needs to go away.
I acknowledge that it's nice that Cryptic gave us a free BOff with decent traits and abilities, but he should be OPTIONAL and players who don't want him should be able to dismiss him.
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
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At least for tactical versions. oh yeah, and the exchange now.
I reserve the right to have a completely different standpoint depending on my mood.
on Any KDF ship he would be assassinated
on any Federation ship he would be "accidentally"left behind on some desolate moon
he has NO place on any crew
From the very beginning, it seems clear that your character doesn't really have any flight experience. Indeed, at the very beginning, Tovan indicates that he is able to pilot the ship, something that would not be necessary if YOU were going to pilot the ship.
From this point on, Tovan is the one telling you what to do all the time. Why is he not the captain? He clearly wants to be. Maybe we should give him his own command.