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This is it? (Reputation Mark Rewards)

azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Reputation System
Azure Nebula, Rhi, and Rihanu - 13 Marks (15 minutes work)

Crystaline Entity - 20 Marks

Nukara: Easy - 5 Marks
Nukara: Medium and Zone - 10 Marks
Nukara: Hard - 15 Marks



Compared to:

400 Romulan Marks for Raising Epohhs.
75 Omega Marks for doing Elite STFs
65-100 Fleet Marks doing Fleet Mark Event (not during Bonus Event)



I'm sorry, but I find this highly unacceptable in means of rewards, especially with people having to work on multiple characters, this is just plain torture.
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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I say that they should leave fleet marks alone and combine all others into "Reputation Marks".

    ...wait, isn't this how dilithium came about in the first place? To get rid of marks? ;)
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Don't the Fleet Alert missions give better payout? Most of the Daily missions also reward fleet marks.

    Each of my seven characters now have over 3,000 marks a piece. Almost all of them have been earned from Romulan Fleet actions and PvP daily missions. I am hard up for dilithium. I believe fleet marks are being awarded too freely compared to EC and dilithium.
  • projectfrontierprojectfrontier Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    voporak wrote: »
    i Say That They Should Leave Fleet Marks Alone And Combine All Others Into "reputation Marks".

    ...wait, Isn't This How Dilithium Came About In The First Place? To Get Rid Of marks? ;)



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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Not sure what PW was thinking here. The Nukara Rep grind is horribly slow compared to the other ones. With those payouts getting tier 4 and 5 will take a long time.
  • daxikadaxika Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    pre-Lor
    TD sector patrol gave 60 romulan marks (75 during rep event)
    TD tholian fleet red alert gave 15 rom marks for completing the event and 30 for the mission. (20 and 45 during rep hour)
    105-140 marks a day.

    post-lor
    the tholian red alert event mission no longer gives 30 romulan marks, does anyone know if those marks were moved, or just flat out removed??

    I enjoyed doing these 2 missions daily for 140 rom marks and not doing the crappy romulan STFs or ground missions.
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It matches the Defera invasion zone ones, which is one of the only two ways to get omega marks if you do not do STFs.
  • rast1qqrast1qq Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    We need tholian epohhs !
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  • bluegrassgeekbluegrassgeek Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I thought there was supposed to be an option where you could select to get specific marks as rewards?
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  • drake122svkdrake122svk Member Posts: 731 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The Crystalline Entity on Elite gives 40 Nukara Marks. Of course, right now it is borked and can't really be completed... good riddance Craptic.

    I have 150 Tholian marks per alt now because I turned in my Crystalline sets. Those will run out eventually, but I can't be bothered to grind 15 min missions for 13 Marks. Now or ever. I suppose the Crystalline Entity on normal is acceptable, if it's still as braindead as it was during the event, I'm just not sure how often can it be repeated.
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Not touching Tholian rep till (if?) they get adjusted. Alt-itis, 9 toons with Romulan 5 and Omega 4 rep (and haven't even started my Romulans yet), and doing so again at this dramatically reduced rate of progression is so impractical I don't even wanna bother. Doesn't help that the passives aren't as good, the gear unlocks are more specialized, and the pinnacle power makes me go 'meh.' Reward needs to be worth the time investment after all, and it really is a balancing game.

    Plus if the fleet marks have been removed from Nukara for this stuff, boooo. Getting 300 marks an hour there was my main source of fleet stuff.
  • cdiederichscdiederichs Member Posts: 134 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    drake122svk wrote: »
    The Crystalline Entity on Elite gives 40 Nukara Marks. Of course, right now it is borked and can't really be completed... good riddance Craptic.

    I have 150 Tholian marks per alt now because I turned in my Crystalline sets. Those will run out eventually, but I can't be bothered to grind 15 min missions for 13 Marks. Now or ever. I suppose the Crystalline Entity on normal is acceptable, if it's still as braindead as it was during the event, I'm just not sure how often can it be repeated.


    Where did you find the Nukara rep projects to turn in or register the old Crystalline sets? I logged in and only saw the two basic rep projects under Nukara.
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  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lucho80 wrote: »
    Not sure what PW was thinking here. The Nukara Rep grind is horribly slow compared to the other ones. With those payouts getting tier 4 and 5 will take a long time.

    This isn't PW.

    This is the Cryptic Systems team area.



    What are they thinking? I really don't know.


    I'm not sure what is supposed to be fun about grinding out this kind of content.


    Why they do not create new STF like content for Rom Rep, Nukara, etc., escapes me.
  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    cdiederichs wrote: »
    Where did you find the Nukara rep projects to turn in or register the old Crystalline sets? I logged in and only saw the two basic rep projects under Nukara.

    Should be under the Upgrades option in the character Reputation tab, that's where it was on Tribble (I cant look right now)
    ussultimatum wrote: »
    Why they do not create new STF like content for Rom Rep, Nukara, etc., escapes me.
    Maybe they want people to pick a rep, instead of doing them all. Guessing
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  • kiriseekirisee Member Posts: 446 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    reginamala78 wrote: »
    Not touching Tholian rep till (if?) they get adjusted. Alt-itis, 9 toons with Romulan 5 and Omega 4 rep (and haven't even started my Romulans yet), and doing so again at this dramatically reduced rate of progression is so impractical I don't even wanna bother. Doesn't help that the passives aren't as good, the gear unlocks are more specialized, and the pinnacle power makes me go 'meh.' Reward needs to be worth the time investment after all, and it really is a balancing game.

    Plus if the fleet marks have been removed from Nukara for this stuff, boooo. Getting 300 marks an hour there was my main source of fleet stuff.

    Yes, i pretty much agree with this post, but me with 14 toons? Yikes! Not doing Tholian Rep until a better way to get marks comes along....period!
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  • anthslickanthslick Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I agree with everything here about low marks... tho i will get my nukara rep to first stage for a extra skill but thats it ..... coz this is like hardcore farming .... no tnx ...... i rather get 70+ marks like Elite STF coz i also have multiple toons to farm marks not enough time and getting it to tier 5 takes weeks even if you do it daily .....
  • cdiederichscdiederichs Member Posts: 134 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ursusmorologus wrote: »
    Should be under the Upgrades option in the character Reputation tab, that's where it was on Tribble (I cant look right now)


    Hmm. I show no Upgrades available. Guess I have to start some normal Nukara Rep projects first...
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The supposed Dev argument is that STFs are more difficult than other PvE content, so award more. And I'm ok with that, *IF*...

    However, they need to create STFs (at least one each) for Romulan and Nukara Reps systems. Ones of similar difficulty to the Omega STFs that award the same Marks, Dilithium, and EC (through random gear drops).

    Further, both Omega and Nukara need a ~20 minute "Daily Patrol" similar to the Tau Dewa Sector Block mission that rewards 60 appropriate Marks (75 during Event time). Basically, a medium Space PvE Daily.

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  • bluegrassgeekbluegrassgeek Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lordhavelock wrote: »
    Further, both Omega and Nukara need a ~20 minute "Daily Patrol" similar to the Tau Dewa Sector Block mission that rewards 60 appropriate Marks (75 during Event time). Basically, a medium Space PvE Daily.

    That's a pretty awesome idea, actually.
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  • soundwisdomsoundwisdom Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Whoever does the itemization really needs a brain check. While I understand itemization and 'item balance' is hard to achieve; but let's be real here. Changing reward drops is pretty easy to do(iin comparison to other changes) and theres tons of content that gets 0 play-time cause it's not worth the effort.

    The whole nakura rep just reaks of the same itemization as some of those...
  • mrkollinsmrkollins Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    rast1qq wrote: »
    We need tholian epohhs !


    Can you imagine that? Fire bunnies or EV bunnies?

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  • raptor63549raptor63549 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lordhavelock wrote: »
    The supposed Dev argument is that STFs are more difficult than other PvE content, so award more. And I'm ok with that, *IF*...

    However, they need to create STFs (at least one each) for Romulan and Nukara Reps systems. Ones of similar difficulty to the Omega STFs that award the same Marks, Dilithium, and EC (through random gear drops).

    Further, both Omega and Nukara need a ~20 minute "Daily Patrol" similar to the Tau Dewa Sector Block mission that rewards 60 appropriate Marks (75 during Event time). Basically, a medium Space PvE Daily.

    Normal STFs aren't that much more difficult, but the payout is much better.
    The REAL issue isn't marks for difficulty, the problem is how much time is invested. Azure, or the vault may be extremely easy, but they can't be completed any sooner.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Exactly! People will stop doing these events, when there are far more productive ways to earn Marks.


    But when it comes to Tholian Marks, they all are horrible. I don't know if because they think people rushed Omega and Romulan Marks when S7 went live and they thought to slow it up? Or they are being sadistic.

    Either way, the Tholian Reputation needs an overhaul, especially those who have multiple characters.
  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    raptor63549 wrote: »
    Normal STFs aren't that much more difficult, but the payout is much better.
    The REAL issue isn't marks for difficulty, the problem is how much time is invested. Azure, or the vault may be extremely easy, but they can't be completed any sooner.

    and that makes them boring as hell. flying around azure, half the time you are just wandering around, you spend way too much time, you are bored as hell, because the enemy is easy to defeat, and no tactics whatsoever is required (STFs atleas have that to show, while being quick)
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  • snipe048snipe048 Member Posts: 168 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Nukara Marks need a serious overhaul, the current amounts we get from missions make it so most players will shy away from the Nukara Rep system in favor of one where we can actually make progress. That is unless all of the unlocks only require Dilithium and time then the current state might be tolerable, but since most Mk12 parts are 500 to 1000 marks I see no one grinding for them. Unless we can get some realistic numbers on the marks we gain in the tholian PvE missions.

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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I am only going to make it on mine PVP main, that is all. They pushed too much with this rep.

    Starbase grind, omega grind, romulan grind and now the worst of them, tholian grind.. too much us too much.

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  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    raptor63549 wrote: »
    Normal STFs aren't that much more difficult, but the payout is much better.
    The REAL issue isn't marks for difficulty, the problem is how much time is invested. Azure, or the vault may be extremely easy, but they can't be completed any sooner.
    But here's the thing: Azure and Vault *AREN'T* extremely easy. They're actually considerably more difficult than, say, an Elite STF, which is only 6-10 minutes of faceroll, as opposed to 15 minutes. A thing which takes 15 minutes to do is clearly considerably harder than something you can blow through in 6-10.

    Azure is, in fact, sadistically difficult: With an Elite STF, you cannot lose except by TRIBBLE up. A perfect performance always guarantees perfect results. With Azure, you can perform perfectly, and still fail.
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  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Its pretty ridiculous that the borg elite stfs (which can be completed in less than 10 minutes with a good team, less than 5 with an epic one) give FIVE TIMES THE MARKS of things that take 20-30 minutes to do.

    The new shuttle combat atmospheric thing is awesome and fun, but the reward (about 15-20 marks)... seriously?

    You need to triple the mark payouts for anything other than the borg stfs.

    Why? because rom and nukara requisitions are going to require doing these pieces of content 20 TIMES EACH for 1 item.

    Thats just plain wrong.

    Fix this.
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  • daharmasterklagdaharmasterklag Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lordhavelock wrote: »
    Further, both Omega and Nukara need a ~20 minute "Daily Patrol" similar to the Tau Dewa Sector Block mission that rewards 60 appropriate Marks (75 during Event time). Basically, a medium Space PvE Daily.

    I've thought of this often since the Tau Dewa Patrol came out and 100% agree! Now if only Cryptic would hurry up and get it done already....;)
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