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i think as lifetimers we should get keys as an added script end

shadowhearttshadowheartt Member Posts: 27 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
sence the price of things went up after the game went free to play but the script ends didnt change i think an addded master key a month should be offered as well
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The price of some things went up with FTP, and some things went down. And you're given a Stipend to compensate for some of that increase - and you can choose to buy 4 Master Keys with it if you wish. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • cannydogcannydog Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I agree... the price of Master keys is so high. One would think that they could afford to give just a few away. And that could actually get people interested in buying more keys. (It's funny how that works)
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I think gold and lifetimers should only Get boxes off the exchange
    and NEVER see one

    but then thats just me.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I think LTS should stop feeling entitled to everything.
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  • corbinwolf#9797 corbinwolf
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    edited May 2013
    They do, albeit occasionally.

    A few months back some shady little Ferengi (NPC) was hiding out by one of the windows on ESD. When I approached him he sent me off on a mission to Drozana Station whereby I received three keys and three boxes. (maybe it was four, can't recall).

    Not as much lobi in the boxes and certainly no free ship, but the other usual stuff was present. :)
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  • boydzinjboydzinj Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    right now we are getting 500 STo only zen a month?

    That is $5 a month.... the lifetime membership was what... $200? $300?

    at $200 bucks... it would take 40 months to get $200 or 3.33 years.

    If it was $300... that would mean 60 months or 5 years to get our money back as prizes...
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    I think LTS should stop feeling entitled to everything.
    But mama told me I was a special little angel who would never know grief or sorrow... :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • valenn1valenn1 Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Change it to Gold Player/LTS ...
    Maybe as a Veteran Reward?
    "Fractal Decryption Key" 1200 Day Reward, Once per Account, comes with 1 charge, Opens one Lockbox, then have to recharge for 20 days (can store up to 3 charges)

    (I bet it would do a better job to hook "freeloading" Lifers (slight sarcasm) on lockboxes then the lobi thing on drozana)
    Beta, LTA, CE, Multiple preorder Versions, all Addon Packs except AoY, nearly all KDF/Rom and ~50% of all Fedships, over 25 LockboxShips, Endurer of Atari's "Year of Hell", but...
    unfortunately:

    NOT LOYAL ENOUGH!!!
  • captsolcaptsol Member Posts: 921 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    bugspatteredjack wrote: »
    They do, albeit occasionally.

    A few months back some shady little Ferengi (NPC) was hiding out by one of the windows on ESD. When I approached him he sent me off on a mission to Drozana Station whereby I received three keys and three boxes. (maybe it was four, can't recall).

    Not as much lobi in the boxes and certainly no free ship, but the other usual stuff was present. :)

    Everyone gets that mission once on each character.
  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    I think LTS should stop feeling entitled to everything.

    I'm going to second this but add a stipulation for the next LTS posting some entitlement request or demand - they LOSE their LTS for good! :(
  • elemberq333elemberq333 Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Obvious troll post and should be locked...
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  • mcconnamcconna Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    boydzinj wrote: »
    right now we are getting 500 STo only zen a month?

    That is $5 a month.... the lifetime membership was what... $200? $300?

    at $200 bucks... it would take 40 months to get $200 or 3.33 years.

    If it was $300... that would mean 60 months or 5 years to get our money back as prizes...

    Unless you have a lifespan of an American Newt (3 year lifespan), or a Gerbil (5 year lifespan) then what's the problem? Even when you hit those year dates as a lifer they still pay you afterwards with the stipend, at that point you're getting back more than you put in (Not to mention the instant access to all vet rewards as a lifer, that normal gold members have to actually get legit). ;)
  • vhylevhyle Member Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    valenn1 wrote: »
    Change it to Gold Player/LTS ...
    Maybe as a Veteran Reward?
    "Fractal Decryption Key" 1200 Day Reward, Once per Account, comes with 1 charge, Opens one Lockbox, then have to recharge for 20 days (can store up to 3 charges)

    (I bet it would do a better job to hook "freeloading" Lifers (slight sarcasm) on lockboxes then the lobi thing on drozana)

    I really like this idea.

    As an LTS holder, I never expect to receive anything. No one should "expect" to receive items in a game, period. Nothing is handed to you for free for a reason, because you have to earn it. I was brought up under parents that taught me what it meant to work. Sometimes we got something from the work, other times (most) I never received anything but a thank you.

    I like Valenn1's idea, but I will never expect Cryptic to do that, because they simply do not have to do it. I stopped using lockboxes after I wasted a months zen stipend and 3.2 million EC. I used it all just to get it out of my system, much as I did in Guild Wars 2 (they have the exact same system). It's a way to make revenue in the game by having people buy keys, I can almost bet you that those keys are making up a large portion of cash transactions. PWE is certainly getting paid.
  • martin1970giesenmartin1970giesen Member Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I want to get a fleet Chimera with 10 consoles (1000 day fleet vet ship) on the star-base (tier4).
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    As a lifer since beta, I have been given quite a bit. Even more than I expected.

    I don't want anything to do with Lockboxes.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    martin1970giesen wrote: »
    I want to get a fleet Chimera with 10 consoles (1000 day fleet vet ship) on the star-base (tier4).

    If they make a fleet variant sans console, I would squeal.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    i am now an LTS and i dont think we should be getting everything simply because we put our money into it. i knew full well that i put my money into it and dont expect anything special from it either and neither should anyone else with these entitlement issues. one should not be looking at the short term loss, but the long term gain instead which is a heck of a lot better.
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  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    right now we are getting 500 STo only zen a month?

    That is $5 a month.... the lifetime membership was what... $200? $300?

    at $200 bucks... it would take 40 months to get $200 or 3.33 years.

    If it was $300... that would mean 60 months or 5 years to get our money back as prizes...

    You mean in addition to ~$700 worth of unlocks, if you're just counting all the free characters you can create?
  • boydzinjboydzinj Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    fraghul2000 wrote: »
    You mean in addition to ~$700 worth of unlocks, if you're just counting all the free characters you can create?

    How many characters can I create... versus non lifers? I have not played in the Free to Play mode yet. I did load the game up yesterday and dropped 30 minutes in the Federation side to see the tutorial and then quit waiting for today.
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    shadowheartt wrote: »
    sence the price of things went up after the game went free to play but the script ends didnt change i think an addded master key a month should be offered as well

    What?

    No seriously. What?
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  • naeviusnaevius Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    boydzinj wrote: »
    right now we are getting 500 STo only zen a month?

    That is $5 a month.... the lifetime membership was what... $200? $300?

    at $200 bucks... it would take 40 months to get $200 or 3.33 years.

    If it was $300... that would mean 60 months or 5 years to get our money back as prizes...

    You seem to forget the 'Subscriber' part of Lifetime Subscriber.

    Remember the monthly subscription cost?

    Seriously, WTF... I blame the schools.
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  • mcconnamcconna Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    boydzinj wrote: »
    How many characters can I create... versus non lifers? I have not played in the Free to Play mode yet. I did load the game up yesterday and dropped 30 minutes in the Federation side to see the tutorial and then quit waiting for today.

    As a gold member you get 1 more extra slot than silver members (4 vs 3). Although with your stipend, you can easily upgrade it.
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    boydzinj wrote: »
    How many characters can I create... versus non lifers? I have not played in the Free to Play mode yet. I did load the game up yesterday and dropped 30 minutes in the Federation side to see the tutorial and then quit waiting for today.

    As a lifer you can create 6. The 3 every F2P gets, 1 from gold, 2 from Vet awards.
  • boydzinjboydzinj Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »

    Did you notice in his flawed math he conveniently forgets that in order to get that stipend a non lifer has to spend ....

    No in his flawed perspective the only thing of value in an LTS is the monthly stipend.

    I believe I answered that....

    boydzinj wrote: »
    How many characters can I create... versus non lifers? I have not played in the Free to Play mode yet. I did load the game up yesterday and dropped 30 minutes in the Federation side to see the tutorial and then quit waiting for today.

    There could be other perks but I am pointing out a single one. To be honest, I have no idea many of the perks or the use of buying certain things yet. I am so sorry if I invested money in this game but you invested more time. i will apologize. I dont even know if I would want a key or not. I would imagine they open up a box like in Neverwinter where I can get a special fire breathing ship or a XP boost?
  • vinthebutchervinthebutcher Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    I think LTS should stop feeling entitled to everything.

    As one who spent a large amount of money on a lifetime sub, I beg to differ. :P
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  • spearhawk2013spearhawk2013 Member Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    boydzinj wrote: »
    right now we are getting 500 STo only zen a month?

    That is $5 a month.... the lifetime membership was what... $200? $300?

    at $200 bucks... it would take 40 months to get $200 or 3.33 years.

    If it was $300... that would mean 60 months or 5 years to get our money back as prizes...

    Umm, are you not forgetting all the bonus stuff you get?
    things like liberated borg, titles, get the veteran bonuses all 700 days at once etc? those worthless to you?
  • edtheheroedthehero Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    I think LTS should stop feeling entitled to everything.

    That's a bit exaggerated. Consider that lifetimers have essentially committed in advance to play this game for over 18 months (when it was $299.99). Silver members can leave the game at any time without losing a penny, while Gold members are only committed for only one month.

    Still, I believe that a Master Key per month would be too much. Instead, Cryptic could revamp the Captain's Table and actually make it worth something. Right now it's a useless feature IMO. A few improvements to the Captain's Yacht would also be welcome.
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  • kiriseekirisee Member Posts: 446 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    shadowheartt wrote: »
    sence the price of things went up after the game went free to play but the script ends didnt change i think an addded master key a month should be offered as well


    To the OP,

    no, just no on us getting free keys, we can buy some each month with our "Stipend" (correct spelling for you)
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  • obsidiusrexobsidiusrex Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    As a Lifer, I want a pack of Gummi Bears mailed to my address each month. Because I want Gummi Bears. Dernnit.
    vinthebutcher wrote: »
    As one who spent a large amount of money on a lifetime sub, I beg to differ. :P
    Until you've spent over $1500 on $12-$15 a per-month sub to WoW or CoH for 7-8 years, I beg to differ that you've actually spent a "large amount of money" :P
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