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  • seannewboyseannewboy Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I totally agree with the op.
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  • daskippadaskippa Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I can't say whether I would spend more if account bound were available, but I can tell you Cryptic won't make any less $ off me if they went to account bound. I use lobi for my main and main only. Every other char has not dropped a dime into STO. /shrugs take it for what it's worth.
  • nafeasonto1nafeasonto1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    They will NEVER make the Lobi crystal account wide, they would lose too much money. All they care about it money, doesn't anyone understand that yet?
  • daskippadaskippa Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    They will NEVER make the Lobi crystal account wide, they would lose too much money. All they care about it money, doesn't anyone understand that yet?

    what moron buys Lobi on multiple chars?
  • stargazerjmbstargazerjmb Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I agree with OP. In fact this is the very reason that I don't even consider using the crystals for anything as it is too difficult for me to keep track of which character has how many lobi. If I knew when I opened a box that I could use the crystals for any character then I may even buy some keys occasionally but I hardly ever do for that very reason. I've been a lifer since day 1 but only twice have I ever used real money to buy keys and that was to sell them not to use them because to me, lobi are worthless.
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    daskippa wrote: »
    what moron buys Lobi on multiple chars?

    Three words: Rich dilithium mining.

    Given that keys aren't that expensive on the exchange it is not that bad, however the lobi then become useless.

    If people are buying the keys with zen then they may buy more if the lobi were account bound as then they can go after those claims on all characters and move the lobi to one.
  • nadiezjanadiezja Member Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The claims should also be account-bound.
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    nadiezja wrote: »
    The claims should also be account-bound.

    No argument from me on that one. However if you had to choose one to be ancount bound which would it be? Now if they do decide to change something to account bound I can't see them doing it for two items.
  • aexraelaexrael Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    decronia wrote: »
    No argument from me on that one. However if you had to choose one to be ancount bound which would it be? Now if they do decide to change something to account bound I can't see them doing it for two items.

    It's a non-contest IMO, Lobi should be account bound.
  • oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    dump the "free" lobi so that it's not exploitable, make Lobi account locked, not character locked.

    I'm always hurting for room in my mains bank, and personal bag..having lobi in there of which I'll likely never get nuff to make use of is a waste of space. A waste of time, and considering the utterly crummy reward rate FROM lock boxes makes me not want to buy the silly lock box keys at all..

    As one poster noted, they send the lockboxes and keys to one toon and hope they get lucky..
    but to get the amount of Lobi to get one of the really nice lobi store ships takes 600-800 lobi crystals.. I typically get 3 lobi per lock box.. sometimes I've gotten 5.. so, 150 to 250 lock boxes to get sufficient lobi to get one of those "special" ships..

    I can promise you a fact I'll never get one... Because there simply is no way I'm going to spend that much cash to get sufficient keys to get that much lobi.

    If I'm going to gamble, I can go to Reno or Vegas, or an indian reservation casino in just about every single state in the US.. where not only are the odds better over all for a number of games, but in Vegas and Reno, and a number of reservation casino and card rooms they comp you free drinks, and a good chance at a floor show besides!
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  • oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    addendum.. really, nickel slots are more fun then lock boxes..trust the old guy on this one!
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  • aexraelaexrael Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    So Dstalh commented on this during the Priority One Interview and said it's not going to happen.
    His exact wording was "not a snowballs chance in..."
  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    the least they could do is, then atleast make the rewards account bound. or the rewards in boxes (like damned mining rights... why put it in a box that is bound to open it up to receive bound items?)

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  • bluegrassgeekbluegrassgeek Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ferdzso0 wrote: »
    the least they could do is, then atleast make the rewards account bound. or the rewards in boxes (like damned mining rights... why put it in a box that is bound to open it up to receive bound items?)
    Some of them are, like the ship consoles. And the lockboxes are not bound.
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  • imadoctornotaimadoctornota Member Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Anyone else agree? Having these character bound is a bit harsh

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  • fweepsiefweepsie Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I agree fully!

    I would like to strenghten that agreement by replicating it 1.000 times! Lobi crystals should be account bound!
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Thread is redundant.

    Did anyone here listen to Dan Stahl on P1? He said this will not happen. For obvious reasons.
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  • lilmomcrowlilmomcrow Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Been said countless times before - they didn't choose to change it - but yes, I agree.
  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    johngazman wrote: »
    Thread is redundant.

    Did anyone here listen to Dan Stahl on P1? He said this will not happen. For obvious reasons.

    what is an obvious reason?

    getting money is an obvious reason. but it makes customers unhappy, making them spend less money, making it less obvious. while making it account bound will result in less money, making people happy making them spend more money...

    its not that obvious a reason...

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  • xstaythirstyxxstaythirstyx Member Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    johngazman wrote: »
    Thread is redundant.

    Did anyone here listen to Dan Stahl on P1? He said this will not happen. For obvious reasons.

    May I get a link to the actual Podcast.

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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    May I get a link to the actual Podcast.

    Happy Hunting & Stay Thirsty my friends

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    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=744181

    Might have to listen to it all, I forget exactly where he says it. He basically says no to account-bound lobi, and then waffles on about how most of the Lobi store stuff is tradeable anyway.
    ferdzso0 wrote: »
    what is an obvious reason?

    getting money is an obvious reason. but it makes customers unhappy, making them spend less money, making it less obvious. while making it account bound will result in less money, making people happy making them spend more money...

    its not that obvious a reason...

    It is when you consider that Cryptic are out to make money, and making Lobi account bound cuts into their profits. Want the Korath Uniform, but all your lobi is on your Fed? Cryptic stands to make nothing by letting you trade that 300 lobi to your KDF toon, but it could make a quick buck by keeping them character bound and forcing you to open another set of boxes on your KDF character.

    Making people happy doesn't neccessarily mean they'll spend more money. After all, if you trade that lobi, you'll get what you want. So why would you need to spend any more money?
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  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    johngazman wrote: »
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=744181
    It is when you consider that Cryptic are out to make money, and making Lobi account bound cuts into their profits. Want the Korath Uniform, but all your lobi is on your Fed? Cryptic stands to make nothing by letting you trade that 300 lobi to your KDF toon, but it could make a quick buck by keeping them character bound and forcing you to open another set of boxes on your KDF character.

    Making people happy doesn't neccessarily mean they'll spend more money. After all, if you trade that lobi, you'll get what you want. So why would you need to spend any more money?

    yeah, the lobi account bounding would not make it good in itself. but with the account bounding the reputation systems, and maybe other rewards, there would be some incentive to play the game on multiple chars, with more needs. many people do not roll another char, because it takes ages to get decent gear, and this also includes lobi gear (tachyo converter is a must for any ship, but its expensive as hell, especially with all the character bounding)

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  • vesterengvestereng Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ... but they won't be, and, neither will account reputation.

    All I can say is, if you people want that done stop throwing time and money at it. If you weren't playing the tholian rep they'd have to act on it.

    You can't throw your wallet in the street and call someone a thief for taking it.
  • daskippadaskippa Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    johngazman wrote: »
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=744181




    It is when you consider that Cryptic are out to make money, and making Lobi account bound cuts into their profits. Want the Korath Uniform, but all your lobi is on your Fed? Cryptic stands to make nothing by letting you trade that 300 lobi to your KDF toon, but it could make a quick buck by keeping them character bound and forcing you to open another set of boxes on your KDF character.

    ?

    They make no $ off that situation now. what moron grinds 300+ lobi on an alt for some random item? It don't happen.
  • alphaphasertechalphaphasertech Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Honestly, I'd like to see Cryptic give us a reason why not instead of just no. If they can present a viable reason, then sure. but just saying no is kind of a cop-out. I realize it's their game, but a lot of good has come from developers listening to the players, and not just in STO.
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  • pedrobobpedrobob Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Lobi Crystals should be account bound ?

    Lobi should be Account Bound !
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  • nilkgar60073nilkgar60073 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Simple solution quit buying Keys till they make lobi Crystals account bound.
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  • john53ajohn53a Member Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Doubtfuil you will ever see Lobi crystals account bound. Dan already said No and that the things you can get with Lobi could be made acct bound go figure.
  • admiralah1admiralah1 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Aren't most of the things you can buy with Lobi unbound until you open their box? Since that is the case, just amass your Lobi on one character and ship the box to whatever other character needs it. Anything that isn't unbound should be made so at least.

    Ideally, Lobi would be account bound, but for now, I'm okay with just shipping.
  • apersont1apersont1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    My solution:

    Gather all Lobi on my main character and use it to buy the stuff and then transfer it to my other toons

    If the item is bound i just open a few lockboxes on the alt i want the item on
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