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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    pegasussgc wrote: »
    I hate Theon's story line this season, complete waste of time that they could be spending on Daenarys, or anyone else for that matter.

    Now back on topic...

    I saw ST:ID at the midnight showing on release day and was absolutely floored at how good it was. I was pretty happy with Star Trek 2009, but ST:ID was significantly better IMO. Benedict Cumberbatch was great as usual (big Sherlock fan here).

    !!SPOILERS!! There are a couple of plot holes such as, Spock interfering with a primitive culture's natural evolution by stopping the volcano from interrupting. If I'm not mistaken that in itself is a violation of the prime directive, yet Spock seemed on board to do it (out of character IMO) but was worried about the natives seeing the ship. He already violated the prime directive, whats the difference. Also it was pretty strange that they ended up so close to Earth in the final battle.

    !!END OF SPOILERS!!
    I really hope JJ sticks around for more Star Trek movies and I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with Star Wars.
    Well, it's a matter of degree. In one case they have no idea what happened but in the other they start telling stories about the ship...
    Not surprisingly, the dialogue completely glossed over Khan's supposed 20th-century origins. This was actually a smart move by the writers, as there's really no other way to avoid the big continuity dilemma inherent in casting Khan in a post-1990s Star Trek movie (i.e. after the time frame of the Eugenics Wars).

    This would be like TOS having an episode that presented an altered pre-1966 Earth history as part of the "correct" series timeline - it undermines Gene Roddenberry's notion that Star Trek represents a possible future for humanity. After all, why would any audience accept it as a possible future if it's tied to what, from the audience's perspective, is a bogus past? (Most of us remember the 1990s, and that there was no real-life dude named Khan Noonien Singh, much less a genetically engineered one, involved in that decade's history.)
    The problem is that GENE added this date to TOS.... Kinda like how the first two Predator movies are set in the 90s.... So they were simply following the source material.
    I think threatening to castrate yourself over a gorram movie is taking things a bit too far.
    "Gorram"? wuzzat?
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  • dammitjim78dammitjim78 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'd have to say that the last 2 ST movies have been miles better than the last 3 SW movies, so all in all I am happy. When you can get a group of people between ages 8 and 64 together and everyone ends up enjoy the movie, it is doing it's job. At least with JJ's Trek, the creator of the series himself didn't "ruin" the series in many peoples eyes. I'll be seeing "Into Darkness" again tonight. I believe that LotR "Return of the King" was the last movies I paid for twice in a theater.
  • pegasussgcpegasussgc Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    "Gorram"? wuzzat?

    Its a Firefly reference, if you haven't seen Firefly yet I would highly recommend checking it out. Its on Netflix. One of the best Sci-Fi shows ever made, and it only ran for one season and a really good movie called "Serenity".
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    tc10b wrote: »
    I hope you enjoy what JJ does to Star Wars! That's next on his list.

    I'm quite looking forward to it!
  • jonathan#1031 jonathan Member Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Anyone know if Nurse Chaplin will re-emerge into the JJ Abrahms line up?
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  • chandlerasharichandlerashari Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    aten66 wrote: »
    You have to admit they did throw a plot hole in. One that could be seen through quickly.

    I actually figured he (Khan) was one of Khan's crew at first. I mean, come on, indvidaulity from the original movies.

    haha ^^^ good catch and fix XD

    Ill change my head canon then lol
  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,200 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    draoki wrote: »
    Anyone know if Nurse Chaplin will re-emerge into the JJ Abrahms line up?
    Yes, Nurse Chaplin will be in his next silent film.
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  • pweistheworstpweistheworst Member Posts: 986 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    tinman56 wrote: »
    I loved it too, and I can't help but think of most nitpicks as just that, people looking for reasons to hate the movie and not caring that a lot of people actually liked it.

    A lot of people apparently liked the Transformers movies and paid money to see those films in theaters.

    :rolleyes:

    'nuff said.

    I'm going back to watching reruns of real Trek on Netflix.
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  • tinman56tinman56 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    A lot of people apparently liked the Transformers movies and paid money to see those films in theaters.

    :rolleyes:

    'nuff said.

    I'm going back to watching reruns of real Trek on Netflix.

    Lol good point. You have to admit though, at least into darkness takes itself a little more seriously. There's slightly less (well, more classy) fanservice with ladies, and a lot of the plot is to do with politics, personal agendas, subterfuge, conspiracy and revenge as opposed to "Oh no robot invasion, our robuts needs to punch them back into space!".
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  • vermiskyvermisky Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The cast is starting to grow on me. Except for Chris Pine. He just doesn't feel like a Kirk to me yet.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I suspect the events of this movie might play a role into making him into a bit more of a Kirk; the flaws in his character were confronted in a VERY direct manner here.

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