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sneyeper
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The Massive just started the first t5 KDF Communication Array in the game. We will know in a little less than 2 weeks what the elite hangar pets for KDF will be....
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I'm hoping for at least a higher rate of contraband to drop!
Or perhaps rare commodities
Or Alien artifacts?
Or Prisoners?
Or... Dilithium?
Oh! I know!
Geklis! Hundreds and hundreds of geklis! Might explain that squad in the pvp queues.
Because then people might not bother with the grind past a certain point if they know the stats.
I myself and only interested in a tier 3 shipyard, still working my way up.
but it will be nice if you can give info about Orion slavers+orion interceptors+skulls fighters what this pets get upgradet weapons+ skill.
all other pets are not importend for me.:D
Take your undeserved sense of entitlement somewhere else.
Well done The Massive, looking forward to seeing the stats. Just remember you'll need to do another 2 or 3 day project after the Communications Array to actually unlock the pets.
Of course, there are folks who can get them for "free" .... they are the members of the fleet who helped donate the ridiculous amounts of resources needed to progress our bases :cool:
To be specific, any member of our fleet who has donated 150k on the leaderboards of either our fed or kdf (or a combination thereof) may get whatever they want from whichever base ... including elite hangar pets.
If you didn't help with all the work and grind and then feel entitled to a handout .... well good luck with that.
Careful reading will show that I am willingly abstaining from owning the thing, because I do not agree with the practices involved with having it. That's not entitlement, that's calling out profiteers on their nonsense.
"Handout" = "pay for something with your own fleet credit and dilithium"?
altho i think i read somewhere they are 100k fc + 60k dil.
i hope they have hy3 and crf3 like elite jhas
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its not just a plead but i think a price that will put a lot of money in ur fleets banks for ur other tiers progression ..at 7-10 mil i think most of my kdf side of the fleet would gladly pay...and ill bet lots of other kdf players will do that as well
anyway ..grats on reaching that tier ...all our envy
Gratz on your achievement, I look forward to seeing the stats on the pets.
It must be asked tho, does your fleet plan on sending invites to others so they may purchase pets? If yes, have you folks decided on a price per invite if any at all?
We will be selling base access to everything (t4 shipyard and industrial), including pets, for 25 million ec for non-fleet members. Fleet members who have donated 150k combined on our fed/kdf leaderboards have access for free - it's good to be a member of our fleet
The argument over whether 25 million is unfair was hashed out extensively on Task Force Spectre's thread when they were the first to get access to Fed elite hangar pets. Since then, they have in fact made a fortune selling access to them. There are other fed fleets now with elite hangar pets, so there is price competition now for selling fed hangar pets. On the KDF side however, I think the next closest fleet will have access to the pets in a month and a half, and every other fleet is over 2 months away at best. Certainly anyone may wait for their own fleet to finish.
I would point out, that we did around 120 projects that took 90 medical doffs each in going from t4 to t5 alone. At an average price of 70k ec for each medical doff, it cost our fleet over 750 million ec for medical doffs alone. That doesn't count the millions of dilithium, marks, and ec for other categories. Asking 25 million for access to something that cost so much to obtain is arguably reasonable. Moreover, the ec that we make will go back to members of our fleet who have donated to the bases. We view it as a reward for our work, nothing more and nothing less. I doubt there are many fleets which reward their members in any way for donating. If we sell some great, if we don't then that is ok as well.
If, as the rumors suggest, elite slavers steal alien artifacts + contraband, then 25 million for access is a bargain imo. We will know for sure soon.
I only ask because I do not want to have prioritize my KDF captains.
Per toon one time access. You can buy as much and whatever you want while there including ships.
just a quick word of reply ..since i got 2 fleeties who are also in spectre...
they didnt made any fortune....sure there were people who paid for that ..but they had to publically post the pets on zone chat all the time ..and if u read their entire thread ull see how many angry people from known fleets there were .
now nobody will buy it from them if he knows of their previous price just out of sheerr anger for ripping off.
oh i fully know how much u invested and i respect that ..but as a day trader myself i think i have "some" knowledge in price workings ...consider a car u want to sell .
if u brand it a toyota or mazda ull sell a lot of them even though their price is very cheap ..but if u brand it a ferari ull sell less then 20 per year ...
who do u think is the reacher company ..ferarri or toyota.
if u put it on 10mil ..or lets say ur 25mil but so that will include a full access not to just 1 toon...ull make a lot more then the money ur invested and even though other fleets will come people will still buy from u just for not ripping them off.
its just an advice and not an order or something..but i can bring u all the examples in economy world how overpricing things always hurt the owner in the end and yet u will find non of the opposite
Thank you for the info. I don't have friends in tfs, but we had assumed they sold at least 50 which is well over 1 billion ec.
If it were purely about maximizing profit, then I would have to agree with you. However it is not and let me explain.
Our fleet is the third furthest fleet in the game in terms of fed+kdf progress - http://sto.gamepedia.com/User:MatthewM/TopFleets. We will likely be the second fleet in the game to completely finish a kdf base, and likely the second or third fleet to finish both a fed and kdf base. What is impressive about that is that just 10 people donated over 92% of all the resources to get there. Think about that ... just 10 people outpaced nearly every mega fleet, which have hundreds of players, in the game. Suffice it to say, the members of our fleet have worked incredibly hard - arguably harder than any other group of players out there. I'm not trying to brag on my fleet, even though they deserve it, but rather make the point that from our point of view taking that massive personal investment of work and cheaply allowing access to it to someone who put no effort in to it is something we could not do.
Our personal feelings aside, from a more practical standpoint, we don't have the manpower to hang out at the base 24/7 and send invites to hundreds of players. And if in the end we sell nothing, then that is ok.
As far as tfs goes, what gives anyone a right to be upset at them for choosing a high price for access to their base? It is tfs's base, which means tfs can do with it whatever they want.
In my opinion, it would be best to go with the "Ferrari" style to this. We of the fleet are not (as discussed in a fleet meeting) too bothered if we don't make a lot of EC through this. Any EC we do make would be a bonus to our performance in building this fleet AND Starbase(s)
We have seen an opportunity and have we taken it.
Cheers for any info
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first of all ..u have every right to have bragging rights...seriously extremely nice job on getting there and doing it first...i have broke my head over it why is no fleet doing the same but i only found a while back that u and HOBO's are on ur serious way there .
as for donating..even in my fleet..lower at the ranking btw .m.a.c.o which is in the same ranking as a combined fleet ..there are donators and there are the major donators...i honestly think every fleet is like that...i dont even know if my big combined fleet has 10 huge donators as u guys ...but indeed a much more little load is done by the others so it adds up .
as for what they sold ..yea ..i know of an estimate of what they made...which granted...is nice...but STO has thousands of people ..not 50 ..and speaking just on behalf of my fleet ..1 among many ..the sum i offered is not just out of the bloom ..people have been discussin it a lot ; this was what was considered high yet not high enough to deter u from paying it to get it.
people get angry when they feel exploited and when most of the guys with money to pay for pets have a lot more then 1 toon ..i got 12 and im a middle weight ..about 4 atleast that need pets ..people like that will maybe pay 25mil once..but they wont do that again and again ...
its ur fleet and ur tier and ur decision ..but still thats just my 2 cents...and its a win win ..if they got 1 bil .u can get 10 times that if the price is right...
as for the one who responded to my ferrari comparison ...ferrari is in a very deep bind ..toyota pretty much corners the market and go home to sleep very rich ...its a bit off topic but it has been already said that if little companies like ferrari wont get with the "electrical program" their demise is but a time issue...i know completely off topic
Yes, I suspect you are right about "major donators" in fleets. In our fleet, donating is optional. While I can't speak for donators in other fleets, I suspect that most of them do it simply because it is something they want to do. In fact, if you have one in your fleet, it is worthwhile just letting them know that you appreciate what they are doing for the benefit of the entire fleet. Keep them happy
If you would like to contact me in game (@SneyeperFur), or pop onto our voice server, I would welcome any in-depth info. We don't have any real estimates of what tfs made, nor any way to judge the impact of lowering the prices on the pets. Quite frankly, we just have guesses. However, that kind of information would be more likely to change our prices than anything else. At the end though, we would like a simple, consistent, and fair way to sell pets in a way that we can manage.
I understand. Our assumption has been that the number of people who would want pets on multiple toons would be extremely small. Maybe we are wrong. I have seen other fleets who offer one-time account access for 50 million ec. Thoughts?
Also to answer the question about provisions, we will be doing base map invites - not fleet invites. So anyone who wants to buy pets will have to have provisions from their fleet, and permissions to buy from fleet stores from their fleet. It goes without saying that dilithium and fleet credits should be in hand too. We won't be escorting players around, so be sure everything is in order because we can't do refunds after leaving the transporter pad. There is also a bug (rumored to have been fixed this week ... but who knows) that prevents players from joining fleets after leaving one. I had 2 toons myself struck with that bug, so I would recommend caution leaving fleets anyway.
Here's a scenario
Customer: Okay that's these characters done.
Seller: Okay, thanks for coming, enjoy your new gear.
(2 hours later, different seller as seller #1 may have logged off for a bit)
Customer: Oh I forgot a character when I was buying items.
Seller#2: Er... right er, I can't get hold of my fleet mate right now.
Awkward...
Anyway, What date will you start selling access to the Elite pets? I'm looking to buy some Elite BoPs and Slavers at first and if that works out I'll be buying other things for other characters down the road.
How do we go about working out a transaction?
Thanks!
You can contact one of the Senior members and Fleet Leaders of the Massive as they will be handling the transaction. So contact us in-game (check out my sig).
2nd -3rd of June is when we start selling access to our fleet store.