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D'Deridex, My Thoughts
abaddon653
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Hello my fellow captains and greetings from the bridge of the I.R.W. Pride of Romulus, my D'Deridex class Warbird. So with the ability to finally command one of these iconic vessels I though I would give some feedback.
First I just wanted to say, YEAAAAA! I got my favorite Trek ship! Anywho.
So as expected the D'Deridex handles like a brick, which we where all expecting, nothing really to complain about there. There is one thing I have a problem with. At this point the D'Deridex is basically a clone of the Galaxy class.
With the same amount of hull, the exact same boff slots but less maneuverability it does seem like the slow cousin. By slow I do mean speed and maneuverability wise of course. What could be a decent fix would be increasing the hull points slightly.
In terms of the boff slots I feel that the commander slot should be universal on both the D'Deridex and Galaxy. Because both classes where used in multiple types of missions ranging from diplomacy, to science, to combat I believe this would not only make them better represent the canon ships but also help them stay competitive.
So those are my thoughts stat-wise, now on to the bugs and for this I have visual aides.
The first thing I noticed was that not only where the firepoints not where they should be but they are not even attached to the ship!
DBB Point 1
DBB Point 2
DHC Points
Now I am torn on where they should be coming from. As a Romulan fan I would love to see them firing from where we see them in the series but then it would also be nice for them to fire from the points the designer originally intended. But as you can see they are not there yet.
Now onto the model itself. While there are a few inaccuracies overall it is very well done and I am happy. In terms of paintjobs however the different options are either good, or bad, there is no in between. On that note I decided that since I mourn the lose of Romulus I wanted to reflect it with my ship, so I gave the Pride of Romulus a paintjob similar to the tattoos of mourning that some Romulans wear. Yes, yes I know it's primarily JJTrek but I thought it looked neat.
It is one of the few things JJTrek did I liked in terms of the Romulans, though making your entire crew a bunch of pumped up skinheads...I will not go that far.
Tattoos 1
Tattoos 2
Anyhow over all good job Cryptic, I tip my hat to you.
First I just wanted to say, YEAAAAA! I got my favorite Trek ship! Anywho.
So as expected the D'Deridex handles like a brick, which we where all expecting, nothing really to complain about there. There is one thing I have a problem with. At this point the D'Deridex is basically a clone of the Galaxy class.
With the same amount of hull, the exact same boff slots but less maneuverability it does seem like the slow cousin. By slow I do mean speed and maneuverability wise of course. What could be a decent fix would be increasing the hull points slightly.
In terms of the boff slots I feel that the commander slot should be universal on both the D'Deridex and Galaxy. Because both classes where used in multiple types of missions ranging from diplomacy, to science, to combat I believe this would not only make them better represent the canon ships but also help them stay competitive.
So those are my thoughts stat-wise, now on to the bugs and for this I have visual aides.
The first thing I noticed was that not only where the firepoints not where they should be but they are not even attached to the ship!
DBB Point 1
DBB Point 2
DHC Points
Now I am torn on where they should be coming from. As a Romulan fan I would love to see them firing from where we see them in the series but then it would also be nice for them to fire from the points the designer originally intended. But as you can see they are not there yet.
Now onto the model itself. While there are a few inaccuracies overall it is very well done and I am happy. In terms of paintjobs however the different options are either good, or bad, there is no in between. On that note I decided that since I mourn the lose of Romulus I wanted to reflect it with my ship, so I gave the Pride of Romulus a paintjob similar to the tattoos of mourning that some Romulans wear. Yes, yes I know it's primarily JJTrek but I thought it looked neat.
It is one of the few things JJTrek did I liked in terms of the Romulans, though making your entire crew a bunch of pumped up skinheads...I will not go that far.
Tattoos 1
Tattoos 2
Anyhow over all good job Cryptic, I tip my hat to you.
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And I am also somewhat disappointed that the D'deridex, despite having the Singularity mechanic, Romulan Battle Cloak and the ability to mount dual cannons (being a battlecruiser) has the same BOff layout as an Exploration cruiser. I'd figure that it'd lean a little more towards having some extra Science powers while still being tanky. I dunno, it's not a bad layout and I can work with it, but just saying. At least the refit has that universal seat.
As to the "Romulan mourning" look, yeah... I dunno why precisely all the Romulans had to sport the shaved head look. You'd think that their hair would have grown back after spending so many years in prison, haha. It's a nice touch that some Romulan refugee NPC's have the tattoos, though.
I like the ship
I am not sure but I was expecting it to be bigger than a Mogai, next to one of them it looked small, was right next to a Mogai (2km) the Mogai looked to big, so maybe its the scale of that ship.
the galor has the DBB hardpoints on top of each other yo make it look like a single beam, the same thing should be done on the nose of the d'deridex. thats canon
F'king brilliant. Make it happen.
I second that. A single, double strong, beam makes perfect sense for the D'Deridex. Let's see that!
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Armitage has something similar, the dbb beam attachments points are very close together. Looks really good, like an actual dual beam.
And do the same for galaxy and nebula, dual beam, like one big beam from big saucer phaser array ! make it so !
Bonus points if it can fire from the photon launcher only when Tamarians show up.
This. The D'deridex should always fire all its forward weapons from the lower/central point of its 'beak' and weaponhardpoints should be on top of each other like it was done for the Galor. Something similiar should also be done for the T'liss/T'Varo. ATM it fires dual cannons/beams from its nacelles which is quite ridiculous. All weaponfire should come from its saucer.
make it so
This! Make it so devs!:)
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a few weeks ago you were a lettuce farmer in hooterville and in few weeks you are put in charge of one of the most technologically advanced ships ever created with a enough fire power to level a small planet even though you probably dont know a warp coil from a plasma torp from the fecal waste disposal unit.
Point of order!!! Romulans have a life span averaging 200+ years, maybe before you where a farmer you where an engineer or captain or something.
Course if this is the case you go from being a captain, to being a farmer, back to captain and as pointed out in another thread back to farmer at lvl 50.
Sure.
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Yeah especially since you're not actually a farmer, and were not on the colony that long since you were in space prior ....also pretty sure picard has no clue how engineering works besides maybe the basics, that's why Laforge and Data do that and Picard just takes the credit. There's a reason starship captains have a crew to do the technical stuff.
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Slightly going off topic, but would anyone agree that the flip-flop between Romulan ships between levels (escort/cruiser) means that the D'deridex has an odd BO layout?
I would suggest we get a C-store variant with Subcommander Tactical, Subcommander Engineering, Lieutenant Engineering and Lieutenant Science - that way, we don't over promote Tovan Khev to have a useless ability at Captain rank.
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because Scotty calls them engines throughout the entire ST history.. They ARE after all, Warp Engines.. nacelles are just the tubes surrounding them.. The P-38 and P-61 also had nacelles.. two engine nacelles and a crew nacelle in the middle..
Firepoint 1
Firepoint 2
As you can see the firepoints are TERRIBLE! They are very noticable, it's not one of those things that's so minor most people will not notice it.
sadly thats mostly where it fires due to all the elachi ships automatically battleporting to 7km directly astern
I got so fed up with it I mounted my nastier weapons aft and set them to autofire
wow. you have issues to nitpic that, thats actually a totally appropriate word for them. let me guess, you think its the warp core that lets a ship go FTL? any sufficient source of plasma will do. what do those warp ENGINES do anyway? lets see, they take fuel, and convert it into thrust or laws of physics bending fields that can propel the ship FTL.
engine definition- "An engine or motor is a machine designed to convert energy into useful mechanical motion"
ya, engine is a totally inaccurate term for the nacelles.
If you want to get technical referring to the nacelles as engines is a very bad analogy.
You're confusing engines and powertrains. It's all part of the equivalent of a powertrain, but the warp core is the engine, the part of the vehicle which converts potential energy into mechanical energy (fuel into torque). The nacelles would be the equivalent of the drive shaft, drive axles and wheels all rolled into one.
not really. they are engines because they take plasma, the fuel, and turn it into mechanical energy. the warp core is a reactor that makes plasma. there is no equivalent to the reactor in a car, it has a gas tank instead. the nacelles are the engines.