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lobstercat
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The start and progession of the Romulan faction was exciting to star something fresh in STO and difference to the other factions. But it was disappointing once aligned that the storyline and missions are the same as FED/KDF exceot in a romulan ship.
A little bit of a let down for the hype.:(
A little bit of a let down for the hype.:(
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We have not even played any of the 21+ episodes yet.
I just got to level 21 and the storyline is 100% unique. This is IMHO, some of, if not, the best content Cryptic has put out to date.
This has been a public service announcement, thank you.
Based on the other two posts by the OP, one could lean either way, eh? Not so much that the OP is new, but that perhaps the OP simply did not realize that actual nature of how it is going to progress. There are so many tidbits scattered in various posts and podcats, that unless one is a consummate consumer of information - it could be very easy to miss. On the other hand, there's the lockbox/Jem set stuff...perhaps something snapped and it is a simple trolling attempt. I'm leaning toward the former rather than the latter though...
Yes the higher up missions, like the FE series, the Borg, undine stuff is shared missions and i tell cross faction stories, but there are still unique missions well beyond when you pick a faction and more to be released.
Sorry to say but what hype? What you stated was exactly what was advertised by Cryptic.
What Cryptic should consider before releasing anything.
I feel like the unique Romulan storyline is better than the storylines we've typically seen from Cryptic, but tends to rely heavily on a few overused themes. (Mysterious powerful enemy attacking out of nowhere and taking people, people telling you lies, people calling you a terrorist). I'm definitely disappointed with the frequency you are offered to join the Tal Shiar and given a fake dialogue option that you can't ever really choose.
We haven't seen the 20+ content, but since Cryptic has stated it only lasts until the Cloaked Intentions series, it'll only be another 10-15 levels of missions. Maybe it'll be as long as the stuff we've already played. After that point, of course, it is indeed the same missions that the Feds/KDF get.
That being said, it's kinda shameful to try and dismiss the OP as a troll or a newb. He's entirely entitled to dislike what he's seen and entitled to his opinion. There are people who agree with him. Not listening to opinions you don't like tends to skew perceptions.
It's basically advertising the single worst thing about the entire game with a big flashing sign. I know a lot of people find the story missions grand, but they really aren't something this game engine does well. This is why.
Other than that, the story end is fine. But it's kind of hard to get over that hurdle. Bioware didn't exactly release KoToR 1 last week or anything. Having actual choices is standard game fare at this point and not having it stands out badly.
I liked Final Fantasy III/VI as much as the next man back in the day but dialogue that does nothing but fill space is an anachronism. Actually even that analogy doesn't quite work, because giving me blocks of text with no options at all would still be vastly superior to giving out fake choices that don't actually mean anything, in the end.
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So the OP is right when he claims that there are no unique Romulan missions after level 10?
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
Not true at all. I have so far not encountered any recycled missions. From 1-20 right now its all unique Romulan missions. Looks like the Featured episodes start at 30+ so that's at least 10 levels of unique missions they have yet to release.
He's hideously incorrect. The plotlines of all three factions don't coalesce until the Cardassian front.
The OP was confused because the Beta only has 21 levels of Rom content for testing right now. So the OP's been continuing to level the Rom using other content in the game rather than stopping and testing something else.
There have been plenty of stated posts about how much of the Rom content is currently in the game. DStahl's FAQ on the FNN section even states only about half in the Q/A section.
Firstly, we haven't seen exactly how far the "rest" of the new content ends. I've heard lvl 32 used and that's what I go by, so at best we get about 10 more levels, half of what we've already got.
Secondly, he's certainly allowed to feel like it's the same old missions. Frankly, they're not that far off. So far I haven't seen any really "new" ideas introduced. If I'm changing details in a Romulan datafile or changing details in the records of another mission like we've already seen, it's not exactly revolutionary, is it?
Note that he didn't actually say there were "no unique" missions after level 10, that's a straw man argument brought up to flame him.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
hahahahahahahahahaha people DONT read!!! what is this reading you speak of ??
Why do you keep doing this to you, him and me?
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
Because I'm not in the process of jumping on someone and flaming them for having a different opinion.
The missions I've played in the beta so far certainly feel like a lot of the same old stuff to me. But perhaps that doesn't fit the picture that some people are trying to paint on the game.
What OP is saying is that once you align you get the same other content from the faction you were forced to join.
There is ZERO, zed, 0 Romulan flavor. The contacts talk to you just as if you were a Star Fleet officer. You get to Aid the planet or deliver medical supplies or what ever. You are exploring and colonizing for the Feds.
Many of the missions to me make absolutly no sense for a Romulan to being them. Well truth be told most of this expansion makes no sense.
It similar to some of the missions that Klingons get to do. Like my Klingon can go back in time on Drozana. No one questions why a KLINGON with ridges is running around loose on the station with a Gorn. Doctor McCoy cant wait to help you. Scottie must have already had a wee nip be he doesnt either.
Being forced into the Feds or KDF more or less ruins the entire Romulan experience.
I mean its bad enough you are some lettuce farmer from hooterville.....
I'm not for jumping and flaming myself (I'd rather be interested in how he came to that conclusion if he's not trolling), but you constantly misrepresent what he wrote. He writes that after aligning yourself your missions and storyline ARE THE SAME as . Not "FEEL LIKE THE SAME". If you say that the new Romulan missions feel the same to you like the old Federation and KDF missions I'm going to scratch my head, but that is your opinion and you can keep it for all I care, I enjoy them a lot and think they are among the best what Cryptic has produced so far. But again, that is your opinion, not what the OP wrote.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
Now, if you don't like the missions that are there post-alignment, that's entirely different and entirely a matter of opinion. I think they're excellent missions myself, though I personally would agree that we need more Romulan flavor text on the non-story mission content such as deep space encounters and exploration.
Well it certainly looks like flaming to me.
My interpretation of what he said is that he means it feels the same to him.
If your interpretation is that he meant they are exactly identical, that's up to you. Though that sounds like a strawman argument to me.
Either way, we're both saying the story is more of the same old stuff.
You're certainly as entitled to your opinion as the OP is, though.
Indeed. As if we would not know how long it took to create missions fo the KDF and even then they started out at high level, the new low level missions just came with this new season.
Maybe wait till release and then check if the OP wasn't quite right... I have the gut feeling he is.
I don't think people really use the word Troll properly anymore. And it's misuse is really out of place in a test server forum anyways.
What is a little offensive is being labelled a troll. When I was reading the posts, I was confused by the term ?Troll?. And before anyone comments, yes I consider myself new to posting in STO forums as you can tell from the amount of posts I have submitted. Probably I am less than a newbie, so whatever internet term that is for those types of people that is me in STO forums; however I do read them often but don?t have enough time in the day to read, post and play. When I first saw the ?Troll? term I wondered what ?fishing with a moving line etc? had to do with the statements. Then realised that internet folk have different meanings for real words. So I googled it and came up with ?In Internet slang, a troll (pron.: /ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3]
Someone could explain how;
My original post is inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic? ? it is in regards to romulan upgrade.
I provoking readers into an emotional response? ? the opinion was my own.
I said - The start and progression of the Romulan faction was exciting to star something fresh in STO and difference to the other factions. But it was disappointing once aligned that the storyline and missions are the same as FED/KDF except in a Romulan ship.? Which I will explain a little further to clarrify.
Up to level 10 the Romulan toon with the storyline and new missions was fresh and exciting for me and in my mind thinking that the whole storyline was going to be new like the feds and KDF were. I have 10 Feds and 4 KDF at VADML and a few I have dropped, so a new story line was exciting. Once I got to level 10 I aligned with FED and the only available mission are the same as I had done in my other 10 Feds being ?Starbase 24?, ?OutReach?, ?Asteroid Mining? and some the explore new worlds missions? Arucanis, Delta Volanis Cluster So Yes I was disappointed as it appeared to be only the same Fed missions. In my disappointment I did not go any further.
After reading the responses that there were indeed more differences I did one of the fed missions and when I reach Level 11 a new mission from a Subcommander Nadel appeared title ?the price of neutrality? which looks like a Romulan continuation and yes it was new and exciting. See I learned something new ? what a newbie still am. After that I got a new mission from Charvev.
So my disappointment has disappeared and the Romulan faction has again peaked my interest.
One thing that did annoy me during the missions was that when I was cloaked and I accepted the item that became available I de-cloaked. This is real inconvenient when you are close to enemy ships. I don?t know if this happens to KDF as I don?t play that side too much, again newbie.