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Choosing a Side; Disparities
atatassault
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For RP and cool purposes, I strongly want to make my Rom(s) ally with the Federation.
But the sad fact is, KDF has better universal consoles, and through the lockboxes, gets all the best Fed Consoles, while the Fed still doesn't have 2 (or more) of the KDF's best (at least Plasmonic Leech and Aceton Assimilator).
This is disheartening.
But the sad fact is, KDF has better universal consoles, and through the lockboxes, gets all the best Fed Consoles, while the Fed still doesn't have 2 (or more) of the KDF's best (at least Plasmonic Leech and Aceton Assimilator).
This is disheartening.
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I haven't been following it that closely, myself, but I'm not a PvPer so I don't worry much about the console powers.
And after getting bitten before, I am not being in anyone else's fleet. If someone is going to simply log off and kill the whole thing, then darn it, it's going to be me.
But maybe if a few of the forumers want to start one, that could be cool.
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LOL! I was in EXACTLY that situation in STO!
In TOR, however, it's more of a "find really good one at first, get kicked, get kicked, and get kicked again" situation.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Yeah except you forgot to mention KDF get a lot of terrible fed consoles as well while the Feds always get a good KDF Console. Get your facts straight first. Besides Plasmonic Leech and Aceton Assimilator are nothing more than trinkets now. You have to be frankly an idiot to die to an Aceton Assimilator while Plasmonic Leech is easily countered by power insulators.
Feds should never have gotten KDF Consoles and vice versa in the first place.
What Cryptic should consider before releasing anything.
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The only Fed Consoles left are Cloak Seeking Torp, Transwarp Computer, and Tachyon Detection. That is, the 3 crappiest ones.
Fed gets Theta Radiation (meh), Isometric Charge (meh), Subspace Jump (useful, but not great), Graviton Pulse (fairly good), and Bioneural Warhead (pretty good).
I would call that a disparity. KDF gets all of the Feds best consoles, while Fed gets mostly meh consoles.
Fun use for this; blow past an an enemy in an escort on a strafing run, throw it into reverse and use Impulse Burst to put them BACK into your forward firing arc...then do it again. :P
It's KDF 3 good consoles, Feds get 5 good ones. Still consider it disparity there and you are asking for Feds to get 7 good consoles and leaving KDF with nonsense. I would rather it came out with scrapping console packs permanently, or if they must have them bring out new consoles that are unique which neither faction has.
What Cryptic should consider before releasing anything.
So I rather use a normal passive bonus one, except for the Bortas autocannon. That one, coupled with disruptor consoles and DHC and turrets, can be very devastating.
I think Tachyon Detection and the Sensors Skill may make a resurgence with both Fed and Klingon Battle Cloaks in PvP. It's also Aux independent, so far from crappy in that respect.
Each their own though.
Personally I wouldn't choose an ally on the basis of P2W consoles, which inevitably will all be available cross faction via lockboxes anyway. But look more toward fleets and fleet holdings.
Bear in mind as well, you won't be able to claim or use end game fed/kdf ships, so looking at their consoles is a waste of time, because you will never get those anyway unless it's through a lockbox.
The Elite Fleet Disruptors are only available to KDF fleets, and they still have some very unique Doff content.
What's disheartening is the general lack of high-tier Fleet goodies on the KDF side that will drive Romulans to ally Fed in droves.
I think you misunderstand, and perhaps that's because I didn't phrase it properly.
Which side do you think has better and broader access to their high-tier holdings rewards? Which side has more fleets available at higher tiers? Hint: It ain't the KDF.
Lol, you do realize you're just saying that overall KDF consoles are better than fed ones right? And you're arguing that the "good stuff" should not be shared!
Well, once they started putting cross faction consoles into lockboxes the genie was out of the bottle, it'd be the epitome of bad PR if the "good stuff" never makes it fed side.
As a sidenote, maybe the anti cloak torp console will get a buff so its actually useful what with all the upcoming full battlecloaking Roms. If they made it a passive ability where a torp was automatically seeking cloaked ships it'd be usefull, give it an internal CD of say... 10 seconds or so and it'd be fine.
BTW, I noticed a few days ago not all torps or at least not all torp like weapons work with it. Go figure eh? Even more fail than advertised lol.
Personally though, I agree that it kind of sucked that they did it the way they did. One can go through and find the various equivocal prices for what a Fed pays or what a KDF pays for the various consoles. It's much cheaper to wait for the KDF consoles to go to the Fed side than to roll KDF to get them.
The same will happen after they've all been proliferated. It will be cheaper to get the consoles on the Fed side. Fed side population will continue to grow. They'll end up getting the most benefit out of the KDF consoles as Romulans.
Unfortunately some of the ones that are comparable are bound to a specific ship and can't really be shared from the fed side. Should also consider the fact that there seems to be more to take from KDF in terms of consoles, remembering that they have to pay to get science vessels. Thats a problem right there as we can't get anything of equal value in return unless they package a whole ship. Most of this stuff though is at lvl 50 and that is unfair to take that away from Feds.
That's looking at the big picture. Feds seem to want to have everything these days, I think it's time they got a firm no for a change. How long till they start asking for all the Romulan Singularity abilities on a Fed Ship hmm?
What Cryptic should consider before releasing anything.
Feds always get more costumes, more c-store stuff, more content. Or at least they have in the past. Add to that the idea that there are more t5 fleets and there's a better market for doffs/boffs.
More importantly, in spots where the factions are segregated, Feds have far better queues for things like starbase defense.
What Cryptic should consider before releasing anything.
Some folks can't seem to accept the best ships are non-faction.
I play KDF and Fed a lot and only found AMS useful for my KDFs, the others aren't really worth the console slots given we also use leech and aceton alot to. Nadeon I only found useful when it used to create 3 shockwave tricobalt torps, since then it has been nerfed so its not so useful. Impulse burst not so useful since I usually need speed for chasing runaway feds and rarely running from them and might need to turn so thats not an option.
So we only have AMS that really gets used a lot by KDF, and to a much lesser extent point defense.
Theta radiation I see feds spamming all the time in pvp, most of them are happy with it. Isometric charge is excellent for fed sci ships with lots of particle generator skills and consoles allowing them to do a pretty nice alpha. Subspace jump depends on the ship, it works great for the Dreadnought and other slow turning and moving ships which the feds have lots of. Bio-neural, a nice un-nerfed tricobalt torp with point defense, so thats pretty good.
Graviton pulse is one of the best consoles of all, its not just "fairly good" no console almost gurantees a pvp kill as much as that one does, its better then leech or AA, those don't give you kills like this one does. This is worth all the other consoles KDF got from Fed combined so stop complaining and trying to take everything from us.
Is sad but true.
I should point out, everytime I get something that people are screaming are OP, it seems to get nerfed immediately by Cryptic into nothingness. So polite appeal to everyone, if you have a ship you wished nerfed, please mail it to me @......
What Cryptic should consider before releasing anything.
Also, things I learned today: If you want to be put on ignore by a lot of grumpy people in-game, try and start a KDF fleet. Watch the venom flow.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
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The last thing I ever want to have to do in this game is play through those gargantuan, oversized FED Romulan and Cardassian mission chains ever again. I will take the condensed KDF version any day of the week quite gladly so I can actually get to Facility 4028 before I'm old and grey.
Yes, I know, there's a skip mission button. But that clutters up your mission journal for all time until you go back and play it all.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom