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firelordzx5firelordzx5 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
We all know that the romulans are getting thier own expantion and we'll play as one of the rebels(republic) but now this is a question that must be answered.

We will see Mirror Romulans? the more importantly we'll get mirror romulans ships?

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What color will be romulans mirror ships? klingons are almost Pink-ish. :P
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    How come Romulans don't get goatee hmmmmm



    I would say red but they got that, and blue is Remen sooooooooo.....Yellow because they're mellow.
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  • firelordzx5firelordzx5 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    They should have a mirror counterpart, FED have the TE. Klingons, the KCA. Romulan Star Empire, would be Romulan Confederacy?


    well, one of their type hull is brown. red is an option (pheonix) or full dark blue.
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,165 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Let's see...


    Let's take temperal ambassador... make all the prisoners Romulan and or Reman.

    Replace all the Tholians with Terran guards. change the jumpsuit tholian logo to a terran logo.

    Change the ent-C ro a romulan ship.. and boom... there we go.. mirror romulans done :P you'll be born a slave and you'll die a slave :O
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  • voicesdarkvoicesdark Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    well basing it off of complementary or contrasting colors

    Normal / Mirror Universe

    Feds: blue / yellow*

    Klingons: Green / Red

    Vulcans: Brown / Red

    Romulans: Green / Brown.

    (since primary hull colors are greys and whites the Blue/Yellow refers to detail colors on the hull which in STO is Yellow for Mirror Universe
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  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I doubt there will be mirror Romulans. In one of the mirror episodes it was hinted at that the Romulans had been wiped out in that universe.
  • dirlettiadirlettia Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    and since a wiped out species no longer make ships - Congratulations you have won a Romulan bit of empty space where a ship would have been had they still existed!

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  • firelordzx5firelordzx5 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    I doubt there will be mirror Romulans. In one of the mirror episodes it was hinted at that the Romulans had been wiped out in that universe.

    care to tell me in what episode?
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    In a way we are playing mirror romulans (d'tan)
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  • sudoku7sudoku7 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    care to tell me in what episode?

    I believe it's non-canon reference to the Dark Mirror book.

    Only on-screen mention was DS9 / Looking Glass where Sisko mentioned negotiating with the Romulans.
  • jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    I doubt there will be mirror Romulans. In one of the mirror episodes it was hinted at that the Romulans had been wiped out in that universe.

    And in a later episode it was flat out stated that the Romulans would make a viable ally for the recently liberated Terran people.

    I don't know what they should do with Mirror Romulans, they've never been seen on screen and they've never been well defined. From what we've seen of the Vulcans, Cardassians and Klingons in the mirror universe, it seems like they were very much the same as they are in this universe, so I'd guess "mirror Romulans" would be the same aswell. On the other hand, in STO Klingon "mirror ships" have slightly different boff layouts, implying Cryptic is taking the view that Mirror Klingons are more science oriented.
  • firelordzx5firelordzx5 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    basically, the episodes contradict themselves.
    jermbot wrote: »
    And in a later episode it was flat out stated that the Romulans would make a viable ally for the recently liberated Terran people.

    I don't know what they should do with Mirror Romulans, they've never been seen on screen and they've never been well defined. From what we've seen of the Vulcans, Cardassians and Klingons in the mirror universe, it seems like they were very much the same as they are in this universe, so I'd guess "mirror Romulans" would be the same aswell. On the other hand, in STO Klingon "mirror ships" have slightly different boff layouts, implying Cryptic is taking the view that Mirror Klingons are more science oriented.

    From my PoV.

    The Mirror Klingons still view honor above everything else, however, they're not full warriors.
    The Terran Empire is a romulan(Terran?) star empire; Slaving or wiping out species, since the conquering of terra/earth, they're more a rebel group now. also vulcans seems very different in the mirror verse.
    the Romulans should be a republic or a federation-esque faction. in DS9's episode, points that the romulans exist and they would be an valuable ally for the terran people.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,476 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    It's also been implied that in the Mirror Universe, the Romulans were originally the followers of Surak, who fled Vulcan when the more warlike members of their species won the debates. In the videogame Shattered Universe, in which you're a member of Sulu's crew making your way through the Mirror Universe to a known portal in Tholian space, you do make temporary alliances with the Klingon Alliance and the Romulan Republic, who help you avoid the Terran Empire (apparently Mirror!Sulu had just tried an action against the Empire, and Mirror!Chekov was trying to turn kill him to avoid revealing his own actions in that plot) while getting to the portal.

    It all depends ultimately on what Cryptic does, of course. That's just what I've been able to glean from a few sources.
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  • goldenlion619goldenlion619 Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    jonsills wrote: »
    It's also been implied that in the Mirror Universe, the Romulans were originally the followers of Surak, who fled Vulcan when the more warlike members of their species won the debates. In the videogame Shattered Universe, in which you're a member of Sulu's crew making your way through the Mirror Universe to a known portal in Tholian space, you do make temporary alliances with the Klingon Alliance and the Romulan Republic, who help you avoid the Terran Empire (apparently Mirror!Sulu had just tried an action against the Empire, and Mirror!Chekov was trying to turn kill him to avoid revealing his own actions in that plot) while getting to the portal.

    It all depends ultimately on what Cryptic does, of course. That's just what I've been able to glean from a few sources.

    Well in that case we don't need the mirror Romulans, they are already in the game as the Romulan Republic led by D'Tan.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    They should have a mirror counterpart, FED have the TE. Klingons, the KCA. Romulan Star Empire, would be Romulan Confederacy?


    well, one of their type hull is brown. red is an option (pheonix) or full dark blue.

    from what i know the romulan mirror counterparts never venture outside their own borders, so whatever they are called or what they look like is pure speculation. for all we know they could be plutocratic. but looking at mirror vulcans, in the prime universe most of them are rigid and inflexible but in the mirror they are more robust and more flexible in their methods. so on that basis, romulans should more more logical, less aggressive and non deceitful, perhaps to the point they consider themselves above the petty external problems of the klingon-cardassian alliance or the terran empire.
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  • firelordzx5firelordzx5 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Maybe one episode we'll see mirror romulans, perhaps an episode dedicate to them.
  • jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    from what i know the romulan mirror counterparts never venture outside their own borders, so whatever they are called or what they look like is pure speculation. for all we know they could be plutocratic. but looking at mirror vulcans, in the prime universe most of them are rigid and inflexible but in the mirror they are more robust and more flexible in their methods. so on that basis, romulans should more more logical, less aggressive and non deceitful, perhaps to the point they consider themselves above the petty external problems of the klingon-cardassian alliance or the terran empire.

    Ah, but any change in Vulcan behavior that occurs by ToS eras or after will be tainted by generations of being a conquered subject species of the Terran Empire, a historical divergence that occured well after they parted ways with the Romulans.

    Before they were conquered though, during the mirror universe's own first contact between Humans and Vulcans, the Vulcans followed the same open, honest, logical, trusting and rigidly adhered too protocols that they used during their first contact in the main universe, nothing extra robust and flexible to be seen here. To their detriment.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    jermbot wrote: »
    Ah, but any change in Vulcan behavior that occurs by ToS eras or after will be tainted by generations of being a conquered subject species of the Terran Empire, a historical divergence that occured well after they parted ways with the Romulans.

    Before they were conquered though, during the mirror universe's own first contact between Humans and Vulcans, the Vulcans followed the same open, honest, logical, trusting and rigidly adhered too protocols that they used during their first contact in the main universe, nothing extra robust and flexible to be seen here. To their detriment.

    but when the humans risen up to kill the vulcans at the warp flight, that is where the mirror universe began, the problem with alternative dimensions is the fact is you do not know where they start or end sometimes, but this one started when the vulcan was shot at blank range by cochrane, and to the mirror universe people asking this same question, they would state it all went wrong when cochrane killed that vulcan and he could of had peace.

    so the ball began to roll and look at what you got, vulcan has been made a slave race like the andorians and tellarites to the humans the terrans, vulcans are more aggressive and less restrained by their emotions by a certain amount, andorians have always been strong and no stranger to aggression, so probably not much difference from their prime counterparts. so romulans may have continued the same path from prime, but the fact they do not engage in any conflicts means there is a difference, when romulans gain territory they dont give it up and the prime romulans are imperialist and expansionist, but the impression i get from the mirror side is that the romulans keep to their own affairs and dont help anyone. beyond that i can not make a more solid case.
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  • jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    but when the humans risen up to kill the vulcans at the warp flight, that is where the mirror universe began, the problem with alternative dimensions is the fact is you do not know where they start or end sometimes, but this one started when the vulcan was shot at blank range by cochrane, and to the mirror universe people asking this same question, they would state it all went wrong when cochrane killed that vulcan and he could of had peace.

    so the ball began to roll and look at what you got, vulcan has been made a slave race like the andorians and tellarites to the humans the terrans, vulcans are more aggressive and less restrained by their emotions by a certain amount, andorians have always been strong and no stranger to aggression, so probably not much difference from their prime counterparts. so romulans may have continued the same path from prime, but the fact they do not engage in any conflicts means there is a difference, when romulans gain territory they dont give it up and the prime romulans are imperialist and expansionist, but the impression i get from the mirror side is that the romulans keep to their own affairs and dont help anyone. beyond that i can not make a more solid case.

    It's likely that the Romulan Star Empire in the mirror universe only seems more isolationist because the Terran Empire looks like a harder target than the Federation and all of our experience with the mirror universe comes from that perspective.

    For instance, in the primary universe it's been hinted at a few times that the RSE has fought a few wars with the Breen Confederacy. Given how limited our exposure with the Breen of the Primary universe has been, and how it's been nonexistent in the Mirror Universe, it's possible those wars went on without being mentioned at all. It's also possible that, rather than focus any resources into a few unproductive wars with the Federation, mirror Romulans went all in against the Breen and have conquered them. Or it's possible that, in a move similar to the Klingon Empire and Cardassian Union, that the Romulans and Breen have allied themselves in an agreement of mutual defense against the aggressive Terran Empire.

    Any of these things are possible along with a bunch of other fascinating scenarios, our limited knowledge of the Mirror Universe doesn't rule any of this out, but what's more important, not a one of these scenarios requires that we change the inherent personality or character of the Romulan people. Which is, I think, more in line with the mirror universe as it's depicted where the only real change in racial personality happens with the Federation.
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,165 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Admiral Sela ... proud daughter of the Terran empire says she'll make the romulans pay for <whatever reason they need to die/enslaved/etc>.
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  • captpeacemakercaptpeacemaker Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I don't believe mirror romulans have ever been addressed in canon.

    Cryptic would have pretty much free reign on any story involving them.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I don't believe mirror romulans have ever been addressed in canon.

    Cryptic would have pretty much free reign on any story involving them.
    Mirror Roms are probably just like regular Roms - stuck in the middle between the Fed and KDF. :)
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  • captpeacemakercaptpeacemaker Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Mirror Roms are probably just like regular Roms - stuck in the middle between the Fed and KDF. :)

    No mirror Romulans are completely open and honest, peace loving people. LOL
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