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T'Varo Warbird Retrofit
The great look of the 2150s-era Warbird with power for the 25th century. Includes a Plasma Destabilizer console that launches a slow moving but devastating Destabilized Plasma Torpedo that deals extreme kinetic damage and heavy plasma damage over time. This ship unlocks for all Romulan Republic characters on your account at Tier 5 (Rear Admiral).
The argument against the T5 NX variant was because the ship was "too old." What's the excuse now? Perfect example of an old ship being used in modern times.
The great look of the 2150s-era Warbird with power for the 25th century. Includes a Plasma Destabilizer console that launches a slow moving but devastating Destabilized Plasma Torpedo that deals extreme kinetic damage and heavy plasma damage over time. This ship unlocks for all Romulan Republic characters on your account at Tier 5 (Rear Admiral).
The argument against the T5 NX variant was because the ship was "too old." What's the excuse now? Perfect example of an old ship being used in modern times.
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Just flip NX upside down and voila, you have Akira.
plus humans, and andorians are particularly sentimental about their starships history and designs. valcuns even kept in service their ships for a very long time because it was logical to keep using hard working and very sound designs.
to have more tier 5 tos era ships and have united earth ships is it too much to offer tier 5 of those ships even without special consoles even at $50 or 5,000 cpoints per tier 5 retrofit tos era and united earth era starfleet ships. logical because cryptic and cbs could each make 25 dollars each for the sale of a single star fleet tos ships and united earth era ships even to have no special consoles on those classic starships.
in theory i would be cool to be able to fly the au universe tier 5 starfleet, kdf, and romulan ships even at $50 or 5,000 per ship. i would also be logical for both cryptic and paramont/bad robot to make $25 each for selling the au universe ships in star trek online.
Klingons have a T5 B'rel and Somraw. I don't see why Feds can't get T5 NX and Connies.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
This. The resemblance is clear.
I Don't know about the Somraw (since it was created for Enterprise) but the B'rel was shown to be vary much in existence throughout the TV series. In fact I am 99 percent certain that Mar'tok's own ship was a B'rel. So the "too old" really doesn't work for that one
Please accept my apology, I misquoted. My comment was not intended for this post.
THAT is why.
As for a T5 NX, it exists, it's called the Akira.
Different class, different mission. One is a long range scout or outrider, the other is a carrier. Yes, the NX looks like the Akira, that was done purposefully by the original designers who worked on the show. As has been stated countless times in interview.
As already pointed out on this thread, there are precedents. We have T5 versions of T1 and T2 Klingon and Romulan ships; why not Federation?
And really, what difference does it make? If you don't want to fly one, then don't. But let other people fly what they want.
They look similar, but they are two very different starships.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Star Trek ship designers put things in a strange place why making the "retro" designs for Enterprise look better than some of the more "modern" TOS/TMP era stuff.
The Romulan Republic is made up of mostly refugees scavenging what they can and upgrading where possible. The T'Varro is an example of this if you assume their shipyards are also old and mothballed and can only produce a few spaceframe shapes (supposition, I know, but it fits) so they build an old shape with new manufacturing methods and materials.
From the books I've read on Enterprise era (soft canon or not, it's one of the only sources out there now) only 5 NX-class ships were made because it was cheaper and quicker to build and upgrade old Daedalus class ships during the Earth-Romulan wars than it was to build an NX, despite the NX being better in a fight.
Once the war was over, the next generation of ships was probably ready for production so the NX project was discontinued.
I can understand a replica of the NX being at T1 as a sort of "prestige" item, but a T5 ship being produced based on a design which only got 5 ships 200 years earlier? Hmmm...
Arguing that the Vulcans got one, and so did the Andorians is hardly fair... their species had warp-drive 100s of years before humanity so had 100s of years to perfect their designs and come up with a style which had longevity, which is why their endgame ships look the same as they did 100s of years ago.
The real blame lies with making the Excelsior class so damn good at endgame... now we all want our favourite TOS/TMP/ENT era ships up there too. But maybe this is "humanity's" perfect spaceframe?.... god I hope not
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Ya know I gotta preface this statement by saying I don't really mind/care one way or the other, but the idea of making a lower tier ship a 4 slots fore 4 slot aft doesn't guarantee that it will outclass other ships. Theres absolutely no fact behind this statement.
As to what advantage is there of having a big ship if they did this, that argument gets blown out of the water with tini jem'hadar bug ships mopping the floor with mega size cruisers and every other ship that's larger then it with ease.
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That is precisely what I said, yes: There is NO advantage to being a bigger ship. So retrofitting a tiny T1/2/3 ship to T5 results in a simply superior ship, as those ships are smaller, but would have the same gun-capacity and power levels.
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