I'm just wandering will our Romulans be able to have normal faces or will
they all have the primate forehead bones.
Do you mean 'primate forehead bones' like the ones Donatra is sporting in your avatar? If so, that would indicate both a bit of hypocricy, IMO.
The Romulan-alien hybrid species option will almost certainly have a smooth forehead option, but considering that Cryptic has gone back and given Sela forehead ridges when she didn't have them before, either in STO or TNG, that might be up in the air.
As for normal rommies, I would point out that even Klingons don't even have a smooth forehead option available to them to mimic the TOS klingons, if that is what you are getting at, just a less bumpy version, so I would find that doubtful.
Since Star Trek got a proper makeup budget Romulans had those ridges. Well, until a certain moron and Star Wars fan thought that Romulans would look cooler with tattooed foreheads, but thank god Cryptic doesn't have the rights to his "work".
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Since Star Trek got a proper makeup budget Romulans had those ridges. Well, until a certain moron and Star Wars fan thought that Romulans would look cooler with tattooed foreheads, but thank god Cryptic doesn't have the rights to his "work".
Lol the tattoo's can be put on foreheads though. One of them even looks exactly like Nero's.
I have to imagine ridges will be optional. Customization used to be Cryptic's big thing, it'd be weird if they omitted the option to have or not have ridges. Moreso since both versions are canon.
If you ask me they never should have had ridges to begin with, but I don't hate them either. I'll probably ridge my male Rom toon and de-ridge my female. I like my women to look a little softer even if they are cold-hearted green-blooded leather-wearing whip-wielding...
Since Star Trek got a proper makeup budget Romulans had those ridges. Well, until a certain moron and Star Wars fan thought that Romulans would look cooler with tattooed foreheads, but thank god Cryptic doesn't have the rights to his "work".
Fully Agree with you -I get people want TOS era Romulans -I respect that -
but not jj abrams Skinhead tatt miners as a costume/facial option absolutely nothing Romulan about them their outfits or the stupid narada ship. Though I liked the sword weapons -the only thing.
but hey I play Klingon and walk past bald green midgets -so i will just ignore the nero wannabes like the green midgets
The forehead ridges have a slider, even if you wont be able to remove them you will be able to make them almost non visible.
Also, I'm sure Sela will not have the ridges when Legacy of Unificationists lunches.
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Do you mean 'primate forehead bones' like the ones Donatra is sporting in your avatar? If so, that would indicate both a bit of hypocricy, IMO.
The Romulan-alien hybrid species option will almost certainly have a smooth forehead option, but considering that Cryptic has gone back and given Sela forehead ridges when she didn't have them before, either in STO or TNG, that might be up in the air.
As for normal rommies, I would point out that even Klingons don't even have a smooth forehead option available to them to mimic the TOS klingons, if that is what you are getting at, just a less bumpy version, so I would find that doubtful.
From what's evident right now in the alien gen on Tribble? You'll have the option to apply ridges and the option to go without, and the ridges themselves do have a depth slider.
It was a design choice Abrams went with because he thought it was going to look bad-a**, scenister, evil or whatever. It was one in a line of poor choices, regardless as to how it was justified.
Just so it's clear to others. The poster I quote here, knows that because of the comic. Any movie you need a supplement to understand, is a movie that cannot tell its own story. When I paid a small fortune to watch ST 2009 in iMax, I watched half the movie before it became clear that Nero was actually a Romulan.
All I ask of Cryptic is that no NPC toons on the ship have access to the tattoo freak show feature. I truly don't want them. If I were commander of a Warbird that crew member would have to fix that TRIBBLE or take a have a blowout party in the nearest airlock.
It was a design choice Abrams went with because he thought it was going to look bad-a**, scenister, evil or whatever. It was one in a line of poor choices, regardless as to how it was justified.
Just so it's clear to others. The poster I quote here, knows that because of the comic. Any movie you need a supplement to understand, is a movie that cannot tell its own story. When I paid a small fortune to watch ST 2009 in iMax, I watched half the movie before it became clear that Nero was actually a Romulan.
All I ask of Cryptic is that no NPC toons on the ship have access to the tattoo freak show feature. I truly don't want them. If I were commander of a Warbird that crew member would have to fix that TRIBBLE or take a have a blowout party in the nearest airlock.
Clearly stated. I agree with all of your points here.
Sadly Cryptic does not seem to be getting far enough from some of the Trek 2009 debacle. The whole story is still tainted by it in a very significant way. It's no fair that JJ was allowed to take a dump in the Trek Prime Universe before he shut the door behind himself. Yet another poor story telling example.
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It was a design choice Abrams went with because he thought it was going to look bad-a**, scenister, evil or whatever. It was one in a line of poor choices, regardless as to how it was justified.
Just so it's clear to others. The poster I quote here, knows that because of the comic. Any movie you need a supplement to understand, is a movie that cannot tell its own story. When I paid a small fortune to watch ST 2009 in iMax, I watched half the movie before it became clear that Nero was actually a Romulan.
All I ask of Cryptic is that no NPC toons on the ship have access to the tattoo freak show feature. I truly don't want them. If I were commander of a Warbird that crew member would have to fix that TRIBBLE or take a have a blowout party in the nearest airlock.
Please spell correctly , its Sinister. Second off , you made the choice of going into IMAX and watching it, you could have waited. Thirdly, you really have some problems then If you couldn't tell that Nero was Romulan the first time you saw him, pretty damn clear. Not all Romulans had the Ridges, Its In the lore. Would think the pointly ears and angled eyebrows would give you a hint? Maybe you don't see details quite as clearly. It Isn't your choice what they do with their game. I don't understand why people hate on the Star Trek 09 movie , It Is Star Trek to me. Maybe people are just living in the past, time to move forward.
Edit: Plus the name ''Nero'' doesn't give you a hint ? He was a Roman Emperor, which Race follows the Roman style of life? Yep you guessed it. Romulans. They say his name within 5 mins of the movie starting...
Please spell correctly , its Sinister. Second off , you made the choice of going into IMAX and watching it, you could have waited. Thirdly, you really have some problems then If you couldn't tell that Nero was Romulan the first time you saw him, pretty damn clear. Not all Romulans had the Ridges, Its In the lore. Would think the pointly ears and angled eyebrows would give you a hint? Maybe you don't see details quite as clearly. It Isn't your choice what they do with their game. I don't understand why people hate on the Star Trek 09 movie , It Is Star Trek to me. Maybe people are just living in the past, time to move forward.
Edit: Plus the name ''Nero'' doesn't give you a hint ? He was a Roman Emperor, which Race follows the Roman style of life? Yep you guessed it. Romulans. They say his name within 5 mins of the movie starting...
No nothing to do with living in the past - Is a bad story and its "Romulans" have nothing to do with any incarnation seen before and are so removed from either the TOS concept or the latter TNG+ era Romulans I don't blame anyone for not knowing they are seeing Romulans
Even using the name "Nero" shows they knew that these "villains" were to far removed from the source.
No other Romulan is directly named from a Roman (except for Decius from Balance of terror)-they use Roman Titles -we use them as well i.e Senator
If a story requires a Prequal comic to fill in one of its many holes than and that prequel story is so badly written it kills any suspension of disbelief-its a fail.
The Ruling elite of the Romulan Star Empire have to get a lift from neros mining ship -the only Romulan ship in orbit around Romulus when they all knew what was coming? Really I'm meant to swallow this?
A miner having the "staff of debrune" that belongs to the ruler of the Romulan Empire-is allowed access to a top secret military base on the fact he has the staff-no questions asked?
Really these are the Romulans that we know?
Movie was a messy fail story wise and Romulan wise-It looked great-the big three leads done great-yea it was a star trek movie but it ends there.
Fully Agree with you -I get people want TOS era Romulans -I respect that -
That's because in the real TV series, Romulans were cool and mysterious because they weren't overplayed and we weren't given much information about them.
However, along comes the johnny-come-lately series and suddenly Romulans return as Star Wars wannabe alien species #2436 with funky stuff plastered on their faces.
Romulan tradition involved facial tattoo designs being applied to individuals in a state of mourning. While mainstream 24th century tradition usually involved a temporary paint or dye, the extreme tragedy of Romulus's destruction caused Nero's crew to permanently tattoo mourning marks onto their faces. (TOS - Countdown comic: "Issue 3")
So to ridge or not to ridge your Romulan? Player choice. To tattoo or not to tattoo your Romulan? Again, player choice. I imagine some roleplayer's might well find stories of temporary or permanent states of mourning. Luckily, the tattoo can be removed at the Tailor anytime the player chooses.
Regarding our NPC Romulans on our starship? Why does it matter unless the mechanic comes along which permits us to customize our entire crew? At this point, I can't change the uniforms of my various Starfleet crews to reflect an all TOS starship crew. Why should a Romulan player be so special as to declare "No mourning on my starship. Captain's orders!". :rolleyes:
Good luck with that. It is what it is. Until a finer mechanic comes along for us.
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Just to be clear on what the forehead tattoo is and what it isn't.
So to ridge or not to ridge your Romulan? Player choice. To tattoo or not to tattoo your Romulan? Again, player choice. I imagine some roleplayer's might well find stories of temporary or permanent states of mourning. Luckily, the tattoo can be removed at the Tailor anytime the player chooses.
I completely agree, all players should and might very well have, the ability to ridge or not, tattoo or not. I understand the justification of the tattoo, but it's only cannon in the one movie. It is explained in a supplement as a sign of mourning. A mourning custom never seen before in twenty plus years of Trek. It's okay if you or any player likes it. It's no detriment to me, I can opt out, except in cases of the NPCs.
Regarding our NPC Romulans on our starship? Why does it matter unless the mechanic comes along which permits us to customize our entire crew? At this point, I can't change the uniforms of my various Starfleet crews to reflect an all TOS starship crew. Why should a Romulan player be so special as to declare "No mourning on my starship. Captain's orders!". :rolleyes:
Good luck with that. It is what it is. Until a finer mechanic comes along for us.
I don't see the tattoos as mourning. I see it as something chosen to visually look cool or to make the Romulans more dark for the purpose of the ST: 2009 movie. It didn't really come off that way. It breaks game immersion every time I see an NPC specialist or officer on Mol'Rihan, who looks like he couldn't get tattoo removal, groom its hair and put on a uniform.
I understand the ire that I may have cause at least another forum goer. He/she was very upset that I didn't see the Romulan connection, visually or otherwise. I still don't. I'm intellectually aware, but visually and culturally there's no connection.
The damage is done on Mol'Rihan. The Republic army can't spare one replicator to make a uniform and one doctor can't manage to remove some ink in the 25th century. It's done. On the ships, the NPCs should have a less controversial appearance. The ridges can be, not be or be mixes in their occurrence onboard ship. They will likely have those tacky front down winter jacket uniforms, fine. My other ships have the in game uniforms that done match. It's something to live with, but a uniform speaks to a dress code. The NPCs on the other factions have a somewhat uniform dress on ship. I want those on my Warbird also. I want my Romulans to also have a semblance of being Romulan as well, not Mohawked thugs with face ink. FYI: You can mourn all you like, but a military dress code doesn't allow for a lot of personal things of that nature. The Republic navy should be a military institution, Nero's vessel was a private entity from what I could divine, given the context of what story existed.
That's because in the real TV series, Romulans were cool and mysterious because they weren't overplayed and we weren't given much information about them.
However, along comes the johnny-come-lately series and suddenly Romulans return as Star Wars wannabe alien species #2436 with funky stuff plastered on their faces.
Ok I take it Star Wars wannabe alien species #2436 with funky stuff plastered on their faces
refers to TNG Romulans - Was it also because the Real TV series lasted 3 seasons and we got 2 Romulan focused episodes? You fault the series with 7 seasons having more Romulan focused episodes? You belive after TNG/DS9/Voy and the movies we know all there is to know on the Romulans? -Still a lot to explore - The Romulans are cool -always have been up untill jj ***** them and put skinhead extras from mad max in their place.
and forehead ridges do not make that big difference and nothing to do with "star wars"
I'm just wandering will our Romulans be able to have normal faces or will
they all have the primate forehead bones.
If by that you mean "Are they going to look like they're supposed to and not the stupid way they look in the Abrams universe?" the answer is, judging by the character creator screens; they will definitely look like a proper Romulan, although some of the Abrams-style abominations have been seen running around Mol'Rihan, so, unfortunately, that might be an option
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The Romulan-alien hybrid species option will almost certainly have a smooth forehead option, but considering that Cryptic has gone back and given Sela forehead ridges when she didn't have them before, either in STO or TNG, that might be up in the air.
As for normal rommies, I would point out that even Klingons don't even have a smooth forehead option available to them to mimic the TOS klingons, if that is what you are getting at, just a less bumpy version, so I would find that doubtful.
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Lol the tattoo's can be put on foreheads though. One of them even looks exactly like Nero's.
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If you ask me they never should have had ridges to begin with, but I don't hate them either. I'll probably ridge my male Rom toon and de-ridge my female. I like my women to look a little softer even if they are cold-hearted green-blooded leather-wearing whip-wielding...
...I got a little off track there.
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Fully Agree with you -I get people want TOS era Romulans -I respect that -
but not jj abrams Skinhead tatt miners as a costume/facial option absolutely nothing Romulan about them their outfits or the stupid narada ship. Though I liked the sword weapons -the only thing.
but hey I play Klingon and walk past bald green midgets -so i will just ignore the nero wannabes like the green midgets
Also, I'm sure Sela will not have the ridges when Legacy of Unificationists lunches.
I live in an alternate universe, where j.j. abrams and cryptic never existed,
where R.S.E. is what it always should be.
http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/en/sto/redesign2012/legacyofromulus/large/s2.jpg
Where do you see ridges on that picture?
And yes, it's one of the official promo pics.:)
But I don't want to help the reunificationists, no you can't make me, noooooooo. -goes and pouts-
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It was a design choice Abrams went with because he thought it was going to look bad-a**, scenister, evil or whatever. It was one in a line of poor choices, regardless as to how it was justified.
Just so it's clear to others. The poster I quote here, knows that because of the comic. Any movie you need a supplement to understand, is a movie that cannot tell its own story. When I paid a small fortune to watch ST 2009 in iMax, I watched half the movie before it became clear that Nero was actually a Romulan.
All I ask of Cryptic is that no NPC toons on the ship have access to the tattoo freak show feature. I truly don't want them. If I were commander of a Warbird that crew member would have to fix that TRIBBLE or take a have a blowout party in the nearest airlock.
Clearly stated. I agree with all of your points here.
Sadly Cryptic does not seem to be getting far enough from some of the Trek 2009 debacle. The whole story is still tainted by it in a very significant way. It's no fair that JJ was allowed to take a dump in the Trek Prime Universe before he shut the door behind himself. Yet another poor story telling example.
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Please spell correctly , its Sinister. Second off , you made the choice of going into IMAX and watching it, you could have waited. Thirdly, you really have some problems then If you couldn't tell that Nero was Romulan the first time you saw him, pretty damn clear. Not all Romulans had the Ridges, Its In the lore. Would think the pointly ears and angled eyebrows would give you a hint? Maybe you don't see details quite as clearly. It Isn't your choice what they do with their game. I don't understand why people hate on the Star Trek 09 movie , It Is Star Trek to me. Maybe people are just living in the past, time to move forward.
Edit: Plus the name ''Nero'' doesn't give you a hint ? He was a Roman Emperor, which Race follows the Roman style of life? Yep you guessed it. Romulans. They say his name within 5 mins of the movie starting...
Klingon 1: Check out these ridges sucka!
Klingon 2: Pfft mine are better.
Klingon 1: You have the ridges of a pa'tak.
Romulan walks in.
Romulan: You pathetic barbarians, these are the ridges of a man!
Klingons vaporize Romulan.
Klingon 1: As I was saying.....CHECK THESE OUT!!!
No nothing to do with living in the past - Is a bad story and its "Romulans" have nothing to do with any incarnation seen before and are so removed from either the TOS concept or the latter TNG+ era Romulans I don't blame anyone for not knowing they are seeing Romulans
Even using the name "Nero" shows they knew that these "villains" were to far removed from the source.
No other Romulan is directly named from a Roman (except for Decius from Balance of terror)-they use Roman Titles -we use them as well i.e Senator
If a story requires a Prequal comic to fill in one of its many holes than and that prequel story is so badly written it kills any suspension of disbelief-its a fail.
The Ruling elite of the Romulan Star Empire have to get a lift from neros mining ship -the only Romulan ship in orbit around Romulus when they all knew what was coming? Really I'm meant to swallow this?
A miner having the "staff of debrune" that belongs to the ruler of the Romulan Empire-is allowed access to a top secret military base on the fact he has the staff-no questions asked?
Really these are the Romulans that we know?
Movie was a messy fail story wise and Romulan wise-It looked great-the big three leads done great-yea it was a star trek movie but it ends there.
However, along comes the johnny-come-lately series and suddenly Romulans return as Star Wars wannabe alien species #2436 with funky stuff plastered on their faces.
So to ridge or not to ridge your Romulan? Player choice. To tattoo or not to tattoo your Romulan? Again, player choice. I imagine some roleplayer's might well find stories of temporary or permanent states of mourning. Luckily, the tattoo can be removed at the Tailor anytime the player chooses.
Regarding our NPC Romulans on our starship? Why does it matter unless the mechanic comes along which permits us to customize our entire crew? At this point, I can't change the uniforms of my various Starfleet crews to reflect an all TOS starship crew. Why should a Romulan player be so special as to declare "No mourning on my starship. Captain's orders!". :rolleyes:
Good luck with that. It is what it is. Until a finer mechanic comes along for us.
I completely agree, all players should and might very well have, the ability to ridge or not, tattoo or not. I understand the justification of the tattoo, but it's only cannon in the one movie. It is explained in a supplement as a sign of mourning. A mourning custom never seen before in twenty plus years of Trek. It's okay if you or any player likes it. It's no detriment to me, I can opt out, except in cases of the NPCs.
I don't see the tattoos as mourning. I see it as something chosen to visually look cool or to make the Romulans more dark for the purpose of the ST: 2009 movie. It didn't really come off that way. It breaks game immersion every time I see an NPC specialist or officer on Mol'Rihan, who looks like he couldn't get tattoo removal, groom its hair and put on a uniform.
I understand the ire that I may have cause at least another forum goer. He/she was very upset that I didn't see the Romulan connection, visually or otherwise. I still don't. I'm intellectually aware, but visually and culturally there's no connection.
The damage is done on Mol'Rihan. The Republic army can't spare one replicator to make a uniform and one doctor can't manage to remove some ink in the 25th century. It's done. On the ships, the NPCs should have a less controversial appearance. The ridges can be, not be or be mixes in their occurrence onboard ship. They will likely have those tacky front down winter jacket uniforms, fine. My other ships have the in game uniforms that done match. It's something to live with, but a uniform speaks to a dress code. The NPCs on the other factions have a somewhat uniform dress on ship. I want those on my Warbird also. I want my Romulans to also have a semblance of being Romulan as well, not Mohawked thugs with face ink. FYI: You can mourn all you like, but a military dress code doesn't allow for a lot of personal things of that nature. The Republic navy should be a military institution, Nero's vessel was a private entity from what I could divine, given the context of what story existed.
Ok I take it Star Wars wannabe alien species #2436 with funky stuff plastered on their faces
refers to TNG Romulans - Was it also because the Real TV series lasted 3 seasons and we got 2 Romulan focused episodes? You fault the series with 7 seasons having more Romulan focused episodes? You belive after TNG/DS9/Voy and the movies we know all there is to know on the Romulans? -Still a lot to explore - The Romulans are cool -always have been up untill jj ***** them and put skinhead extras from mad max in their place.
and forehead ridges do not make that big difference and nothing to do with "star wars"
just type I do not like ridges-easy
If by that you mean "Are they going to look like they're supposed to and not the stupid way they look in the Abrams universe?" the answer is, judging by the character creator screens; they will definitely look like a proper Romulan, although some of the Abrams-style abominations have been seen running around Mol'Rihan, so, unfortunately, that might be an option
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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