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haarspalter
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As we all know, most cruisers and scienceships can not use dual cannons. Our enlightened developer "Gecko" told us the reason for it. These ships should make no damage. But tanking damage is ok? No!
Restrict Resilient Shield Arrays. No ship which high damage can distribute should be able to use this. Either one makes damage and dies fast, or one can tank and makes less damage. Not both at the same time!
Restrict Resilient Shield Arrays. No ship which high damage can distribute should be able to use this. Either one makes damage and dies fast, or one can tank and makes less damage. Not both at the same time!
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Moreover, in all non-trivial content that 5% absorption won't save you if the big baddie decides your ship is on the menu anyway, if you're in an escort or science vessel.
Spock's Brain.
There are three set Resilient shields, the Maco/Adapted KHG, the Breen and the Jem'Hadar. There are four Covariant set shields, the Aegis, Romulan, Reman and KHG/Adapted Maco. There are two set Regenerative shields, the Borg and the Omega.
Of the Resilient shields, one is very strong (Maco), one is "alright" (Jem'Hadar) and the other is bunk (Breen). That's hardly what I'd call "the lion's share" of set gear.
Elite Fleet Adaptive Resilient Shield Array Mk XII [Cap]x2 [ResA/ResB] [Adapt]
Which is not a piece of set gear.
Specificity can be annoying, I know.
The OP did not restrict it to set gear. Even the person that you replied to did not explicitly limit the discussion to set gear. They merely raised the point on the number of Res shields in trying to point out how limiting Res shields would be an issue.
Yes, the "lion's share" thing was perhaps melodramatic - but in the end - it would still be a case of saying Escorts could not use the Breen, Jem'Hadar, MACO, AKHG sets. Sure, they could use Aegis, Borg, Omega, AMACO, KHG, Romulan, and Reman...
...but they couldn't use the upcoming Nukara Crystalline Resilient Shield Array.
5 Res sets (AKHG, Breen, Jem, MACO, Nukara)
5 Cov sets (Aegis, AMACO, KHG, Reman, Romulan)
1 Reg set (Borg)
1 TRIBBLE set (Omega)
Restricting Escorts from using Res shields...can't be a discussion - which is what the guy you replied to was saying. You're trying to correct his "lion's share" thing - while oozing specificity - was pointless. /shrug
Considering the comment I was replying to was explicitly about set gear, and you subsequently swooped in talking about non-set gear, I'd say it was far from pointless.
I get that typing/talking is what you likely consider one of your strong points - however, I would suggest that you put a little more effort into reading as well...
This is what you quoted:
Even that, you did not read...
...see that...
...then...
The part that you focused on...ignoring what was said first. This part...
...which obviously, if one had read it - one would see the post was not explicitly about sets.
By the way, their actual post was...
Which goes on to suggest that the main point they were making was about the counterbalancing factors of the Res shields.
Opening statement...
...reiterated...
So...hrmm...
Let's see, here's the post again:
The part you read and replied to is in red.
Who swooped in with what?
Everyone here is bad at reading comprehension. There's an entire thread discussing Armor console possibilities with Geko's own feedback in it. The OP didn't really read that thread, and thus this one with mangled discussion of what Geko actually said, was born.
So I think we all should just step away from this already pointless thread and go continue the discussion in the proper thread?
Fix Beams instead.
R.I.P
Perhaps melodramatic, I don't think so. Semantics aside, I'm used to being cherry-picked...I've generally learned to use it as a litmus test as to whether a given post is really worth response.
That said, let's parse these set lists deeper. Of all those sets, the only ones that aren't acquired through the reputation system are the Breen, Jem'Hadar, Aegis, and (blue) Reman sets. These sets are also pretty important gear before hitting T5 in NR/Omega rep if you plan to do ESTF's before then.
Aegis tops out quality-wise at Mk X blue and isn't exactly stellar anyhow, and neither is the blue Reman set despite topping out at Mk XI. Those are also the only two non-reputation sets escorts and science vessels would be able to load out were resilient shield arrays limited to only cruisers. That's particularly nefarious, considering for their deflector and engine stats Breen and Jem'Hadar are most suitable for science vessels -- which they wouldn't even be able to complete -- to say nothing of the fact Jem'Hadar ships save the dreadnought would be locked out of the three-piece Jem'Hadar set bonus ("Victory is Life") which only they can use.
In the end, it would be totally putting the screws to science vessels, and barely denting escorts' performance in the process, for the sake of giving cruisers a complete non-advantage.
Spock's Brain.
I lol'd.
Folks are neglecting reality.
On top of that, they are also not thinking about the combination of mega-resists [ADAPT] shields + spike protection (Covariant) that is also available beyond "resilient" shields.
Unfortunately me letting the cat out of the bag might actually escalate this further until we hit next weeks new drool-filled thread, titled:
"Escorts should not be allowed to use ANY shields!!!!!"
No, just make DHCs take up 2 weapon slots. That's all we need to nerf them.