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djezc#0623 djezc Member Posts: 81 Arc User
his character went with the wormhole aliens he never died nor did we see his end he could come back at anytime.. so why not now on STO?
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    To use Sisko Cryptic would need to pay Brooks to use his likeness - the actors own their images. How much money that would cost depends on the actor in question. I'm guessing Brooks doesn't come cheap.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    They might be able to go with his time with the wormhole aliens changed him so that he no longer looks exactly like Sisko. He looks close enough for people to recognize them as Sisko, but not an exact copy.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Could probably get Ed O'Bannon to play Ben Sisko III, and really Cryptic would only have to pay the NCAA and UCLA.

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  • steamwrightsteamwright Member Posts: 2,820
    edited April 2013
    I could have sworn I heard an off-hand comment by one of the NPCs on Bajor or DS9 that said something about the return of the Emissary as if it had already happened. Anyone else notice that?

    Anyway, I doubt Sisko was sent to the wormhole dimension to swap baseball stories for decades, at least from our linear perspective. He's part Prophet, and he's learning. To me that means he'll be well-nigh unstoppable if he resurfaces. Kind of like a Q but with the desire to eliminate every enemy of the Federation, and especially Bajor, anywhere. Since story, and game fun are driven by conflict, there'd not be much left to do. They'd have to find the way to drastically limit him to create an interesting story. Stripped of power and banished from Valhalla, as it were. Now where have I heard that recently?
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    To use Sisko Cryptic would need to pay Brooks to use his likeness - the actors own their images. How much money that would cost depends on the actor in question. I'm guessing Brooks doesn't come cheap.

    One thing to keep in mind is that most of the main actors from Trek probably refuse to license their face without getting acting work and many command high salaries.

    I could see Frakes/Sirtis/Dorn doing it mostly for fun though. Biggest thing is that they might want some writing input.

    Brooks has licensed his publicity rights without seeking acting work before, more than once. And he's even been known to do ultra low budget stuff in recent years, like college plays.

    However, if you've seen him lately or followed the headlines about him, you might walk away with the idea that while he probably isn't expensive, he is... Difficult to work with for reasons not relating to money. He's clearly had a rough time and, well, probably needs serious counseling.
  • morkargh117morkargh117 Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I don't want to see STO try and do justice to Benjamin Sisko's character, STO is not worthy.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    his character went with the wormhole aliens he never died nor did we see his end he could come back at anytime.. so why not now on STO?

    Because even Cryptic has some taste.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I don't want to see STO try and do justice to Benjamin Sisko's character, STO is not worthy.

    [sarcasm] Yeah because the books really did a better job. [/sarcasm]
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  • talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I just want to see him come back and beat up Q again.
  • millimidgetmillimidget Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    his character went with the wormhole aliens he never died nor did we see his end he could come back at anytime.. so why not now on STO?
    He could have easily lived until the present timeline, regardless.

    I mean, if Bones can live to 120+...
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  • blevokblevok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    the return of the emissary would be far more appealing to me than any other actor they've used yet, but the chances of cryptic's story writers doing it well are pretty slim. i'd bet we'd get nothing more than a dull 15 minute mission that's heavy on the reading and no replay value.
    but it's moot anyway. as leviathan mentioned, somethings not right with him. based on that captains documentary, it seems that he only speaks in jazz riffs now...
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    talien wrote: »
    I just want to see him come back and beat up Q again.

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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Sorry, you cant have him back. I have him mining dilithium and contraband on my account.....
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  • pingaheadpingahead Member Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Don't need Brooks. Kasidy was pregnant with Sisko's child when he was taken to the Celestial Temple. No actor ever potrayed his offspring.....

    Seeing as Sisko is part Prophet, his offspring should also be.
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I could see Frakes/Sirtis/Dorn doing it mostly for fun though. Biggest thing is that they might want some writing input.

    If i remember one of the last Gecko podcast interviews correctly, the part about wanting a writing input was one of the problems they didn't get Wil Wheaton. He was appearantly interested, but didn't want to revive Wesley.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The Sisko will return when Bajor needs him most. They do not need him that much at this time.

    Wait... Wheaton thought his char/ needed to stay dead? wow.... :D
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Im quite sure by now the prophets have finished eating his soul
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Wait... Wheaton thought his char/ needed to stay dead? wow.... :D

    On his website over the years, he's been pretty understanding about the hate his character got, and even agreed with most of it. He can be quick to point out it was all writing and insist he's actually a very good actor but there's only so much you can do with a terrible character, but... Well, it was bad writing, so half points.
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    One thing to keep in mind is that most of the main actors from Trek probably refuse to license their face without getting acting work and many command high salaries.

    I could see Frakes/Sirtis/Dorn doing it mostly for fun though. Biggest thing is that they might want some writing input.

    Brooks has licensed his publicity rights without seeking acting work before, more than once. And he's even been known to do ultra low budget stuff in recent years, like college plays.

    However, if you've seen him lately or followed the headlines about him, you might walk away with the idea that while he probably isn't expensive, he is... Difficult to work with for reasons not relating to money. He's clearly had a rough time and, well, probably needs serious counseling.

    What exactly happened to him?
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    dui: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Avery_Brooks

    He actually has a degree in acting. O_O'
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    hevach wrote: »
    On his website over the years, he's been pretty understanding about the hate his character got, and even agreed with most of it. He can be quick to point out it was all writing and insist he's actually a very good actor but there's only so much you can do with a terrible character, but... Well, it was bad writing, so half points.
    I have to agree that Wheaton is at least a decent actor. But yeah, some of the stories centered on him are just dumb....
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    What exactly happened to him?

    He does a lot of small time theater stuff and some music stuff. And last I heard he got busted for a DUI in 2012?
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  • collegepark2151collegepark2151 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    What exactly happened to him?

    I don't know everything about what he's doing these days, but I know he was arrested for DWI a year or so ago.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    If i remember one of the last Gecko podcast interviews correctly, the part about wanting a writing input was one of the problems they didn't get Wil Wheaton. He was appearantly interested, but didn't want to revive Wesley.

    This is one of those areas where better dialogue between Cryptic and these folks can make a difference, I think.

    I mean, if Kestrel can write lockbox blogs, surely they can tailor a story to both meet Cryptic's needs and an actor's.

    For example, Dorn wants to do a story about Worf hunting terrorists hiding within the Federation. He's talked about this several times and outlined a pitch centering around Worf going renegade and taking a ship to hunt terrorists in ways that Starfleet might be uncomfortable with. He's a known aviation enthusiast with close armed forces ties as well. And he's a musician.

    So you tailor the pitch around that rather than exclusively focusing on getting him for The House Always Wins.

    We know Worf left Starfleet and sided with the Klingons over Undine hunting, right? Tailor Dorn's part around that and maybe also pushing a new signature Klingon C-Store ship that can be identified as Worf's ship, much like how the Jellyfish was Spock's ship and had Vulcan IDIC motifs in the last film.

    So when you bring in Dorn, have him be involved in a revamped Undine STF. Maybe cook up an anti-Undine rep... And have cutscenes similar to the New Romulus cutscenes, which could include things like flashing back to Worf's departure from Starfleet. Play up how he's all about rooting out corruption within.

    Now... With Frakes? The pitch is different. He'd likely just have fun with Sirtis. He has an interest in online games and new media as a director, producer, and business minded person. He's very business oriented. He likes being a spokesman. He's interested in work dynamics. I think he'd actually be more into touring Cryptic, doing advertisements, etc.

    The strong hook with Frakes is to get him an afternoon with Jack Emmert, maybe a card game with management and a nice meal. I think what would REALLY hook him is if you looked at making him something of an Outreach Producer at Cryptic as part of a deal where he gets to interface with some of the business, go to a few meetings a year, and probably do voiceover for all of Cryptic's games. And probably, as part of that, sit on the stage at some conventions as part of a Cryptic/PWE panel. Patrick Stewart may cost over $100k but you'd just get a recording session there. I actually think Frakes might be more interested in something more immersive, even if it's more work and includes multiple recording sessions.

    It wouldn't surprise me if you could get him out to Los Gatos every weekend for $100k a year if he felt he was learning about new media and being involved in a business operation that gave him authority and relevance and where he was a valued, ongoing spokesman.

    The less strong hook for Frakes, though, is simpler: you let him have dialogue approval and adlib jokes.

    I have my thoughts on Wheaton.

    Point being, there's a tailored pitch for each person.
  • talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    hevach wrote: »
    On his website over the years, he's been pretty understanding about the hate his character got, and even agreed with most of it. He can be quick to point out it was all writing and insist he's actually a very good actor but there's only so much you can do with a terrible character, but... Well, it was bad writing, so half points.

    He did an OK job in Eureka. Isaac was more interesting than Wesley, at the very least.
  • morkargh117morkargh117 Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    [sarcasm] Yeah because the books really did a better job. [/sarcasm]

    lol, I don't even pay attention to the books im afraid.
  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    talien wrote: »
    He did an OK job in Eureka. Isaac was more interesting than Wesley, at the very least.

    pity they only brought him in near the end.
  • millimidgetmillimidget Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    tenkari wrote: »
    pity they only brought him in near the end.
    Pity their story arcs were poorly delivered. Even more pitiable is the terrible scheduling changes they made every half-season.
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  • steamwrightsteamwright Member Posts: 2,820
    edited April 2013
    I don't know everything about what he's doing these days, but I know he was arrested for DWI a year or so ago.

    Here's hoping he takes a page from Robert Downey's playbook, finds the way to move beyond the troubles and reinvents himself. Brooks showed some amazing acting during In the Pale Moonlight, particularly his stage asides to the recorder/audience. I'd very much like to see him flex those acting chops again.
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