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Dreadnaught Cruiser Saucer Seperation

cjtombraider#7376 cjtombraider
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edited April 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Just wondering...what ever happened to them releasing this?
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  • sparhawksparhawk Member Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I don't really remember anymore. I know a developer commented on it months ago though. I forget if it was a technical problem or a marketing problem (i.e. do people who own both the Galaxy-X and Galaxy-R get the updated ship for free or a discount). I'm sure someone around here remembers the details.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    There were problems with the mechanics of the lance, and then they had animation issues with how the saucer would align when rejoining - it clipped through the 3rd nacelle. That is the last I remember hearing about it.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,821 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    There were problems with the mechanics of the lance, and then they had animation issues with how the saucer would align when rejoining - it clipped through the 3rd nacelle. That is the last I remember hearing about it.

    How does this differ from the insame amount of clipping issues with just about every costume in the game, amoung many others?
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    jcsww wrote: »
    How does this differ from the insame amount of clipping issues with just about every costume in the game, amoung many others?
    That would be a question for the art department. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • tangolighttangolight Member Posts: 777 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    In a related vein, I also know they were working on being able to saucer separate and MVAE separate while in motion. I wonder what happened to that also?
  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Every so often we get another sound byte that indicates they are closer to having it all ready. While it really has been going on for some time, this recent bug with the separation ships gives me hope they are actually really doing something with it, and some less-than-ready portion of it slipped on to live...

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  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Maybe, maybe not.

    What I'm afraid of is the nerfs we'll be taking in order to separate the saucer.

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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    If clipping is such a problem (from the looks of it, not that much), why not just have the saucer re-dock with the stardrive section in reverse from the front?

    It might look a bit silly, but hell at this point, that doesn't really matter these days. :rolleyes:
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  • nelson2014nelson2014 Member Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    hypl wrote: »
    If clipping is such a problem (from the looks of it, not that much), why not just have the saucer re-dock with the stardrive section in reverse from the front?

    It might look a bit silly, but hell at this point, that doesn't really matter these days. :rolleyes:

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  • cjtombraider#7376 cjtombraider
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    edited April 2013
    (look down)
  • cjtombraider#7376 cjtombraider
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    edited April 2013
    hypl wrote: »
    If clipping is such a problem (from the looks of it, not that much), why not just have the saucer re-dock with the stardrive section in reverse from the front?

    It might look a bit silly, but hell at this point, that doesn't really matter these days. :rolleyes:

    HOLY TRIBBLE! You're on to something! You should work for them. If you did, we'd have our saucer sep by now! lol! Great idea though! I agree as well.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Most players would probably be quite happy to have even crappy Saucer Separation, but then there would be that small percentage of forum posters who just love pointing out every mistake Cryptic makes and would use it as ammunition against Cryptic for the next few years. So better for Cryptic to just get it done whenever they get it done. It's a side project, anyway. It's not really something that was promised to us.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • projectfrontierprojectfrontier Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    hypl wrote: »
    If clipping is such a problem (from the looks of it, not that much), why not just have the saucer re-dock with the stardrive section in reverse from the front?

    It might look a bit silly, but hell at this point, that doesn't really matter these days. :rolleyes:

    I'm guessing it's done and they're just waiting for a way to sell it the players for some ridiculous pricing schedule.
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  • djezc#0623 djezc
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    edited April 2013
    i remember talk about this so long ago.. YES why not


    a new toy somthing to play with YAY
  • cjtombraider#7376 cjtombraider
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    edited April 2013
    I recall reading on STO Wiki that the Dreadnought Cruiser Saucer Sep was going to be released before Season 8 (or late 2013). But I also recall reading that it was slated for release last spring, then in the summer, then by Christmas, and yeah...you can see where I'm going with this.
  • kaaahhhhhnnnnnkaaahhhhhnnnnn Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I just think its hilarious that if you destroy a ship that separates (Galaxy, Prometheus) it reforms while exploding which is completely ridiculous :D Surely it would be better if all parts just exploded independently
  • talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Or that when you dock it, whether it blew up or not, the crew that went with it are somehow all dead.
  • cjtombraider#7376 cjtombraider
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    edited April 2013
    You would think it really wouldn't be that hard.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    scimitar2 wrote: »
    You would think it really wouldn't be that hard.
    That's why most of us aren't programmers or animators. :)

    And, again, Saucer Sep on the ship is a side project - something they do in their spare time rather then something promised to us.
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  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    This topic was touched on in the 4 hour PodcastUGC interview that Captain Geko did a couple of weeks back.

    I believe the interview can be found here http://www.podcastugc.com/archives/526
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  • cjtombraider#7376 cjtombraider
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    edited April 2013
    jeremycapone wrote: »
    i remember talk about this so long ago.. YES why not


    a new toy somthing to play with YAY
    talien wrote: »
    Or that when you dock it, whether it blew up or not, the crew that went with it are somehow all dead.
    errab wrote: »
    This topic was touched on in the 4 hour PodcastUGC interview that Captain Geko did a couple of weeks back.

    I believe the interview can be found here http://www.podcastugc.com/archives/526

    Oh boy! I'll have to put this on my iPod and listen in my spare time.
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Most players would probably be quite happy to have even crappy Saucer Separation, but then there would be that small percentage of forum posters who just love pointing out every mistake Cryptic makes and would use it as ammunition against Cryptic for the next few years. So better for Cryptic to just get it done whenever they get it done. It's a side project, anyway. It's not really something that was promised to us.

    Don't forget the response by the equally if not more so rabid Cryptic Defenders.

    It would be nice to get any saucer separation and just ignore the naysayers.
  • cjtombraider#7376 cjtombraider
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    edited April 2013
    Another question: was there ever any talk about releasing an "updated" Dreadnought Cruiser? Perhaps one with a universal BOFF station or an increased tactical BOFF station? Something to make better use of it's cannons (seeing as they can be used with this cruiser)?
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