Really though, I'm surprised there isn't a fleet version yet - considering even the Atrox got one.
Also, there are at least two canon Vulcan designs that could be used for a new ship. The Suurok Class and the 'Future Cruiser/Retrofitted Carrier'. The latter might be a viable Flight-Deck Cruiser if the KDF ever get a Raptor with a hanger.
I was wondering when that design would come up, as it always does whenever anyone talks about a D'kyr. Props for discreetly rolling in a carrier request too.
Also, raptors with hangars should never happen. Escort carriers is an idiotic premise, and we need no more. A fighter-carrier that flies like a really big fighter in the same battle as its fighter wing? Xibit called, he's threatening a lawsuit for stealing the centerpiece of his Pimp My Ride: Star Trek special. FDCs and true carriers only from now on, please. If we get any new raptors, we need a Kumari analog for the KDF. 5/2, special cannons, etc.
The possibility of this ship getting an update is one of the few things (A Cardassian faction being another) keeping me in this game, and one of the only three or four things I'd ever spend money on in it.
I made my first character a Vulkan JUST so i could use this ship, and be all vulkany.
Then when i went to buy it, i saw the Vesta....
For an extra 500 zen i could buy a ship 10 times better, so of course i got the vesta. But i wasn't happy the D'Kyr was so far behind.
The d'kyr also needs more of an upgrade than just, and extra console or universal boff, it really needs to be a big upgrade so it can compete with the vesta. Otherwise the vesta will still be bought ahead of it.
I realy wish they could revamp the D'kyr klass, even Intrepid freaking klass beats lead vulkan science ship. Illogical. And this is a good way to get money, allmost no effort will bring a huge ammount of money lol.
I am still not sure... canonly speaking, why the Vulcans, Andorians and Caitians have a separate ship line from Starfleet if both are members of the Federation... of which Starfleet is the military branch.
Well....think about it a second. Klingons were part of the Federation up till the events of STO where they were enemies but then very recently became allies again. But even when they were allies of the Federation the Klingons still used their own Ships. So logically speaking and canonically speaking, Vulcans, Andorians and Caitians can still use their own starship designs.
But I wholly support the OPs idea or request. The D'kyr is such a unique and beautiful ship to have it remain almost obsolete and currently not worth the Zen. Same thing goes for ships like the Atrox, K'Tanco or the Dacoit.
well there is now a fleet atrox from the T3 spire just wish they upped the cstore version a bit
Well....think about it a second. Klingons were part of the Federation up till the events of STO where they were enemies but then very recently became allies again. But even when they were allies of the Federation the Klingons still used their own Ships. So logically speaking and canonically speaking, Vulcans, Andorians and Caitians can still use their own starship designs.
Think again. The Klingons were never part of the federation, just allies. (Outside of the 10 seconds in the future episode in ent)
Allied and member a very diffrent things.
Saying Klingons would use fed ships because they are allies is like befriending your neighbour and then considering it the natural conclusion to give him free access to your house, car, fridge and bank account like you'd do with your wife.
But we saw in particular Vulcan specific designs multiple times during the series (tmp, tng). Mostly shuttles and frightens, but it still proofes they DO build own not starfleet ships.
So it's not too unreasonable to conclude that they might have own cruisers. Although a 300 years old... That's a bit less reasonable.
A possible route might be to release 2 other variants, like the 3-ship packs Cryptic's been releasing. Release a variant that's more engineer-focused, and one that's more tactical focused.
I'd be totally down with that !
The 2011 feeling for the current version is just ... , yeah .
For those of use who like to play as Vulcans, I wish the the dev team could go back and offer upgrade options for ships like the D'Kyr. I'm a Fleet Admiral and I would like my ship to match. Personally, I do not care all that much about new designs or anything - just a retrofit or fleet option putting the D'Kyr on par with higher level ships.
Thanks for listening.
Fleet version? Sure, as long as it doesn't mean that the current D'Kyr doesn't get a buff. Right now, it's a 2000 ZEN C-Store ship... That should entitle it to at least being brought up to T5 Sci Ship retrofit par. (Also, why no Universal stations on the ship? The description says that it's been used in roles from combat cruiser to medical... Why not replace that Ens. Sci with Lt Uni, and give it -slightly- better base hull?
While I can hear the backlash already, I think the Vulcans would be a prime candidate for Flight Decks. The D'kyr can actually perform quite well as a counterpart to a snare-focused Corsair/Marauder. Additionally, the Future Vulcan ship on the Enterprise series was listed as Retrofit of a Vulcan Carrier. Perhaps the Jellyfish was/can be retconned to be a prototype design for a new Vulcan fighter craft and complimenting carrier?
While I can hear the backlash already, I think the Vulcans would be a prime candidate for Flight Decks. The D'kyr can actually perform quite well as a counterpart to a snare-focused Corsair/Marauder. Additionally, the Future Vulcan ship on the Enterprise series was listed as Retrofit of a Vulcan Carrier. Perhaps the Jellyfish was/can be retconned to be a prototype design for a new Vulcan fighter craft and complimenting carrier?
Makes sense too me. That said, I don't think it needs to be a carrier. Simply because Feds already have a Sci based carrier in the Atrox. Another issue would be the use of the Jellyfish as it is JJverse and therefore off limits to this game, I'm sure they could use something similar though.
Yup, hence why I said 'prototype design for a new Vulcan fighter' and 'Flight Deck'.
I don't really care about the Federation getting more carriers(Fed probably has more fighter-capable ships than the KDF at this point), I'm just saying there's room in the 'canon' for it.
Cryptic can also give the D'Kyr its own bridge as well like almost all other alien ships. They even have a canon example from ST: ENT to use as an example.
No more flight deck ships please, just a Fleet D'Kyr, that is more than enough.
Another issue would be the use of the Jellyfish as it is JJverse and therefore off limits to this game, I'm sure they could use something similar though.
No it isn't.
Any JJ material that appeared in ST:Countdown is available for use in STO.
Like Red Matter, Nero's tattoo, the vault.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Isn't that a slippery slope argument?
what i would like are some newer Vulcan designs
maybe something like these designs from the defunct browser game Star Trek Infinite Space
Vulcan Design No 1
Vulcan Design No 2
Nah. Now back off before I use my Volkswagen Death Grip.
This this and this^^^^^^^^
that'd really bug me.
I heard that the effect of the Volkswagen Death Grip hits you like a minibus
I was wondering when that design would come up, as it always does whenever anyone talks about a D'kyr. Props for discreetly rolling in a carrier request too.
Also, raptors with hangars should never happen. Escort carriers is an idiotic premise, and we need no more. A fighter-carrier that flies like a really big fighter in the same battle as its fighter wing? Xibit called, he's threatening a lawsuit for stealing the centerpiece of his Pimp My Ride: Star Trek special. FDCs and true carriers only from now on, please. If we get any new raptors, we need a Kumari analog for the KDF. 5/2, special cannons, etc.
Both of those are surprisingly good looking.
Many hours spent underneath Quinns desk.
You win this thread.
...and my monitor thanks you for the shower. :eek:
Then when i went to buy it, i saw the Vesta....
For an extra 500 zen i could buy a ship 10 times better, so of course i got the vesta. But i wasn't happy the D'Kyr was so far behind.
The d'kyr also needs more of an upgrade than just, and extra console or universal boff, it really needs to be a big upgrade so it can compete with the vesta. Otherwise the vesta will still be bought ahead of it.
Well....think about it a second. Klingons were part of the Federation up till the events of STO where they were enemies but then very recently became allies again. But even when they were allies of the Federation the Klingons still used their own Ships. So logically speaking and canonically speaking, Vulcans, Andorians and Caitians can still use their own starship designs.
well there is now a fleet atrox from the T3 spire just wish they upped the cstore version a bit
Think again. The Klingons were never part of the federation, just allies. (Outside of the 10 seconds in the future episode in ent)
Allied and member a very diffrent things.
Saying Klingons would use fed ships because they are allies is like befriending your neighbour and then considering it the natural conclusion to give him free access to your house, car, fridge and bank account like you'd do with your wife.
But we saw in particular Vulcan specific designs multiple times during the series (tmp, tng). Mostly shuttles and frightens, but it still proofes they DO build own not starfleet ships.
So it's not too unreasonable to conclude that they might have own cruisers. Although a 300 years old... That's a bit less reasonable.
I'd be totally down with that !
The 2011 feeling for the current version is just ... , yeah .
Fleet version? Sure, as long as it doesn't mean that the current D'Kyr doesn't get a buff. Right now, it's a 2000 ZEN C-Store ship... That should entitle it to at least being brought up to T5 Sci Ship retrofit par. (Also, why no Universal stations on the ship? The description says that it's been used in roles from combat cruiser to medical... Why not replace that Ens. Sci with Lt Uni, and give it -slightly- better base hull?
I'm sorry to people who I, in the past, insulted, annoyed, etc.
Makes sense too me. That said, I don't think it needs to be a carrier. Simply because Feds already have a Sci based carrier in the Atrox. Another issue would be the use of the Jellyfish as it is JJverse and therefore off limits to this game, I'm sure they could use something similar though.
I don't really care about the Federation getting more carriers(Fed probably has more fighter-capable ships than the KDF at this point), I'm just saying there's room in the 'canon' for it.
No more flight deck ships please, just a Fleet D'Kyr, that is more than enough.
No it isn't.
Any JJ material that appeared in ST:Countdown is available for use in STO.
Like Red Matter, Nero's tattoo, the vault.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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After that...Tellarite Cruiser. Would fit with the Vulcan Sci, Andorian Escort theme.
Fix the damned warp trails already...
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