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So I've heard the plasmonic leech is a real game changer.
Are the quad cannons significantly better than fleet dual heavys?
Is there anything else I should be looking at?
I have 3 Klingon characters (one each sci/tac/eng) and am looking at at least one more (tac) plus two romulans will ally klingon when they come online. At the moment the only things I've bought are the Dacoit and Gauramba. I try to give all of my captains a minimum of two ships one that matches their type (the sci is flying a Bird of Prey) and one is either a carrier or a bird of prey (I despise raptors and prefer BoPs for damage/escort style play).
Also, of the store and fleet T5 BoPs what are the top damage dealers? B'Rel or one of the others?
Thanks in advance. I tried to do some searching, but my search-fu is really, really bad.
Are the quad cannons significantly better than fleet dual heavys?
Is there anything else I should be looking at?
I have 3 Klingon characters (one each sci/tac/eng) and am looking at at least one more (tac) plus two romulans will ally klingon when they come online. At the moment the only things I've bought are the Dacoit and Gauramba. I try to give all of my captains a minimum of two ships one that matches their type (the sci is flying a Bird of Prey) and one is either a carrier or a bird of prey (I despise raptors and prefer BoPs for damage/escort style play).
Also, of the store and fleet T5 BoPs what are the top damage dealers? B'Rel or one of the others?
Thanks in advance. I tried to do some searching, but my search-fu is really, really bad.
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No and no
Plasmonic leech is fantastic but its not game breaker! I have a fairly decent flow cap rating on all my toons and it only give you around 13-15 power boost and drain which again is great for heals and resistances and such
I have the feddy quads and they are sh&t wish I hadn't wasted th 1500 zen dhc will put out more damage especially If using extra crit d modifiers which a set of purple dhc will cost you about a million ec plus the quads are completely useless in PVP
You already have probably the best damage dealer the klinks have in the guramba but if you wanted a bop to do similar damage then the fleet hosus is the way to go! The Brel is a torp boat... However the free heghta is just as good as anything for just pew pewing IMHO
these are just my opinions please don't hate me for them this is just what I THINK
Also, I've never been able to tell, if I slot multiple of the plasma dot threat consoles, do the dots stack or is it like a plasma cannon/beam array/torp where you can only have one dot at a time?
Quad's were buffed last season. DPS is now greater then the Fleet weapons
Advanced Fleet Dual heavy Disruptor Cannon [DMG]x3, [CrtH] 613.2DMG(408.8 DPS)
Quad Disruptor Cannon [DMG]x4 308DMG(410.7 DPS)
Flat out damage is better for the heavy cannons of coarse, but the quad is about equal in the DPS department. I still don't think its work 1500z, but it is a competitive weapon at endgame.
45 second cooldown, so you can actually use it unlike most universal console abilities.
Those are the worse statements I've ever read regarding both.
To start, the Quad Cannons, are the strongest cannons in game. No weapon ship mounted has equal, or greater DPS than the Quad Cannons. Including Fleet. Ask me how I know.
Plasmonic Leach, if you think it's a waste, tell that to the extra 2900 DPS I gain from using it, but overall, you really need to just pay attention to the effects and stats.
If you like running disruptor energy on your ships, which flying a Guramba, I would only hope you're not stupid enought o use any other energy type on it, the Quads are worth their weight.
That additioonal 700 DPS compared to a fleet disruptor dual, or dual heavy cannon makes a difference. I have a Quad on my Bortasq', Dreadnought, and Guramba. on top of the other cannons.
On Fed side, I have the Phaser Quad Cannons as well, just as good as the Klinks Quads.
Also, phaser quads have a faster RoF compared to dual cannons, so when DPS matters, and you need to hit fast movers as hard and as fast as possible before they leave your Cannon LoS, Quads are best.
With FAW becoming useful again, this will certainly punish FAW spammers.
The quads aren't horrible, but I don't think they are worth $15 when you can get something as good or better from the Fleet store or from the exchange.
In my tests, my MK XI and XII phaser DHCs CRTDx3 had a higher DPS than a Quad in a controlled test. And this was after the buff.
Also, with the extra DPS you are getting from PL, is that against someone with 99 Power Insulators?
In my tests, I've found the exact opposite concerning DHCs
As far as PVP, No idea, I've never found any difference with Plasmatic Leech on any player I've used it on.
I always mount point defense systems when playing vs. Tholians in Fleet Actions, for example, as they can take down a web in about 2-3 seconds. I never use them in STFs, though, as there are barely any valuable targets for them and I usually fare better just using a high-quality "stock" console.
The biggest "enemies" those Zen-consoles have in PvE nowadays are the Reputation & Lobi consoles. In whatever slot I have left over I usually mount Borg & Romulan, Tachokinetic converters or the Ferengi console instead Zen/Lockbox ones as I might have done half a year ago.
This thread is about PVE.
Also, FAW is its own punishment.
Other than that I would run the borg assimilated console and zero point to boost crit chance, weapons with one acc and crthx2, and the rest is aoe weapon fire with any copy of beta you can fit onto your ship. beta stacks. it stacks massively. it improves the dps of the entire team to boot. In pve, it is god.
There is nothing more amusing than watching a sci boat with 50 weapon power hitting a borg ship for 2k per hit without any damage or power buffs active other than five stacks of beta.
Hell even if you are the only ship with beta it makes a massive improvement in shoring up the pugs in a match who are weak in the damage department. And it is continuously viable as very few pve encounters involve ships with tac team.
Seriously. I can't say it enough. get beta. Even if it is a single copy. It is a vital, Team enhancing power for pve.
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I'm trying to figure out which one or two to pick up.
Ya beta is nice. I started using it on my Karfi and really noticed the difference. So it went into many of my builds after that.
You have a different definition of "completely useless" than I do. STF's have some pretty nasty heavy torpedoes. Especially KASE and Hive. And the Romulan/tholian fleet actions are full of fighters. I WISH there was a klingon point-defense console.
And I also run a lot of foundry missions, replay story arcs, and occasionally farm EC and dil with something like battleship royal rumble. All of those are varied enough that pretty much any power can be used again and again. doesn't have to be a game changer. Can just be "good". For most of my ships all it has to do is be better than either green mark 11 neutronium armor or an EPS flow science console.
I do like those reputation consoles though. Very nice. I have one on each of my ships and am working on more but I figured the faster borg engines were more important so my reputation is headed that way before I get both for each ship.
@momow Thanks!
[Console - Universal - Point Defense System]
It is great on a fighter in the vault. And the dps is boosted by the tac consoles as well.
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Fun for new toons. I also has fun with it in the Vault mission. The turret will kill the fighters with 100% Acc shots before it even gets to impact it and then picks up the next target and does the same thing.
It may not be the most effective but it is fun to watch.
I'm specced into drains and so whilst Aceton compliments that, the main reason I use it is for its AoE torpedo kill ability. Drop one then I don't have to worry about heavy torps for a while. (except unimatrix humongous ones and bioneurals)
Side note: dropped one last night in Fleet Alert, NPCs starting shooting it and it was critting return damage for 1600 dmg every hit, they pounded on it for a good 20 seconds, that was pleasing to watch :P
Plasmonic ties into my drain setup nicely. +18 power across the board is very useful, especially my heals/resists.
Aceton Assimilator is a good defensive console because it can destroy mines and heavy plasma torps. Great to use in the Vault shuttle mission because the Scorpion fighters love to target it and when they do it sends out strong AoE radiation blast.
Theta Radiation Vents is useful especially in conjunction with Gravity Well in keeping multiple ships in a area allowing teammates to more easily kill them. I use it in Infected: The Conduit (Elite) and it has helped me save the optional objective many times when someone destroyed a small generator early.
Where is the Point Defense System from? I looked and can only find one fed side.
@the thread in general not specifically Robdmc,
What is the difference between plasmonic leech and the breen energy siphon? I have the breen set on a couple ships and noticed that it is aparently identical to the boff power energy siphon 1 except it doesn't share a cooldown with tyken's rift/gravity well, though it DOES share one with energy siphon.
How does the plasmonic leech compare?
I do think I'm going to snag the aceton emitter that seems cool.
Also isn't the plasma vent just the same as the boff skill eject warp plasma?
I jumped a Bugship in Karot, not realizing he had three Tac Retro Escorts with him that were cloaked.
Only reason I survived long enough to get my battlecloak rocking was that barrier LOL!!!
If you need something that'll let you get out when you need to, or something that will stop the hits on your ship to get your HP back up, the Barrier is working wonders.
Plasma Vent is deadlier. And it frees a BOff ability slot.
And Feds are very, VERY fond of FAW. Funny watching an Escort prepping up a major strike on one with their teammates nearby.
Cross-faction pack from one of the earlier Lockboxes, search under Reward Packs on the exchange 'point' or 'jump' should bring it up for a few million. Note that it is a per-character bind-on-pickup console after being opened.
Plasmonic Leech is a passive proc -- it has no cooldown, only a stack limit.
Thanks! That explains why I've never been able to find the point defense for klingons I was looking only at what comes from C-store ships.
I use those 2 consoles has well on all of my KDF ship builds.
In PVE the Aceton Assimilator works for well that I heal it when it takes damage!
The Aceton Assimilator works nicely in PVP if you run into Free Firing Hanger Support from Enemy Carriers or FAW spammers.
It is especially fun in PVP because torpedo's are so rarely used in favor of cannons and beams, making it nigh invulnerable.
We are many. We are legion. We are the proud, the bad, the infinitely expendable.
We! Are RED SHIRTS!
...Tremble in thy footwear.
I did notice though that is dies dang fast in the crystal entity event because shards ram and tholians love their torps.
Seems like a good buy so far though.
I have the leech on my gauramba now, but not sure if I really notice any difference from it.
Thanks for the tips all!
You have to put skill points into the Tier 1 Science skill: Starship Flow Capacitors; preferredly to max. A good starship deflector with this skill (Jemmy one fits the bill) , and the Science console "Flow Capacitor" (if you have the slots) also help boost whatcha get back in power.