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Okay So I for one am excited for the New Star trek Online Expansion it opens up many possibilities. I For One think with the Romulan Faction we have a chance to add some wicked new ships, such as the Narada, Jellyfish and Possibly the New Constitution class, while I think it would be more likely to get the Narada and Jellyfish as they are from this time. I also think with the somewhat recent release of the Andorian Escort we could get a better NX bundle with interior, weapons, shuttles, ect. A Mirror NX as well as a NX refit. to me it seems like a good time to give the ENT era some love, if not before the Expansion, maybe shortly after. Try to keep the JJ and ENT flames to a minimum, I simply want to know if you want to see the same things in-game i do and if not what would you like to see?
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Can't the Narada be simulated by taking a Tufi Freighter and sticking the borg set on it?
Working on anything for the NX wouldn't be profitable. And there's no way we're ever getting an NX refit either.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
I wouldn't say unprofitable, there are plenty of Enterprise Fans out there
And How Exactly am I late to the party when I've Seen all the shows and movies, and been playing STO since launch. Kittens are funny but your not, your argument is invalid, but I cant be too mad at anyone who supports the NX refit
Sorry, but even the Cryptic Devs have said this many times over the years. STO is the Original Prime Universe that Gene Roddenberry created, not the new alternate timeline.
The only thing we might see from the new Star Trek is the Kelvin, since that technically a modified Saladin / Hermes and existed at the time the timelines diverged. But that is a massive long-shot.
You realize Braga is working actively to make Season 5 of Enterprise on Netflix. Which was the planned debut of the NX-Refit. And if that happens, then it makes it fair game for Cryptic to add to STO.
We have the NX offspring anyway, its called the Akira :lol
A wolf remains a wolf, even if it has not eaten your sheep.
Ahem
Just interesting a ship named Enterprise that looks like the NX was concieved long before the Akira. And in a plot thats awfully similar to the 2009 movie. :rolleyes:
Sarcasm.. It was a joke..
but anyway.
A wolf remains a wolf, even if it has not eaten your sheep.
Problem with the new RR ship scheme is that all ships are of the type Warbird. Log on to Tribble and go to the Romulan sector and fight in an incursion. You will see T'Liss Light Warbirds. These are BoPs not Warbirds. A Warbird is a type of heavy cruiser. It has classes like D'Deridex or Valdore. Just like the Klingons have battle cruisers, a type of heavy cruiser, for which there are various classifications: K'Tinga, Vorcha and Negh'var.
What in the world?
Not to be overly nitpicky (I'm adamantly against anything JJ crossing back over, let me be clear on that), but wasn't Spock's ship built in the Prime?
What? they're gonna add the unpremiered Season 5? WOO ^_^
and yes both the Narada and the Jellyfish are Prime, the Narada was a mining vessel heavily modified with borg technology (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Narada) and the Jellyfish was commissioned by the Vulcan Science academy (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Jellyfish_%28ship%29) to protect Romulus and Remus from the Supernova, it was already too late though
Technically speaking both were.
A wolf remains a wolf, even if it has not eaten your sheep.
They are trying to. Still no word from CBS.
Yes, but they were also unique ships. While the Kelvin, like I said previously, is just a modified Saladin. And Cryptic can easily circumvent Parmamount and use the TOS Saucer for the Saladin and add in an Engineering hull on top and Paramount shouldn't say a thing since they are using the TOS hull and not the one from the movie.
Damn I hope they do, and I really hope paramount pulls its finger out its TRIBBLE and lets Cryptic add their ships to STO, I think it would help bring in new players
Awesome, I didn't know that! Do you have a link where I can read about it?
I would love to see the Jellyfish and a mirror NX class, but I kind of doubt we'll get either.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
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http://www.blastr.com/2013-3-26/could-enterprise-return-help-netflix-brannon-braga-thinks-so
Purely for your amusement, and (perhaps by the off chance) your education, let me lay it all out for you:
Albeit not a direct quote from any mod (which would have ended this argument WAYYYY before season 1), as far as legal rights, copyright laws, and licencing are as far concerned, the statement above me pretty much sums up what Cryptic can make, and what Cryptic can not make.
From Wikipedia:
At Star Trek's creation, Norway Productions, Roddenberry's production company, shared ownership with Desilu Productions and, after Gulf+Western acquired Desilu in 1967, with Paramount Pictures, the conglomerate's film studio. Paramount did not want to own the unsuccessful show; net profit was to be shared between Norway, Desilu/Paramount, Shatner, and NBC but Star Trek lost money, and the studio did not expect to syndicate it. In 1970 Paramount offered to sell all rights to Star Trek to Roddenberry, but he could not afford the $150,000 ($898,000 today) price
In 1989 Gulf+Western renamed itself as Paramount Communications, and in 1994 merged with Viacom. In 2005 Viacom divided into CBS Corporation, whose CBS Television Studios subsidiary retained the Star Trek brand, and Viacom, whose Paramount Pictures subsidiary retained the Star Trek film library and rights to make additional films, along with video distribution rights to the TV series on behalf of CBS. - Wikipedia
Nifty eh? To really condense it for you, just skip to the bottom half. Now, going back to the first quote:
"No - for the same reason as the JJ-prise/2009 Enterprise won't be in the game. Paramount owns the movies, CBS owns the rights to the TV series.
Crypric has a contract with CBS but not Paramount, therefore nothing from Trek 09, or the upcoming new movie, will feature in STO."
Couldn't have said it better myself. My argument is locktight, good sir. What's yours?
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
Paramount owns the rights to the movies, I know that, but saying that there will never be anything from the new movies in the game is like saying that Star Wars the Clone wars is gone for good. Nothing is impossible, sure there's a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo that that doesnt rule out the possibility. and besides, if you actually read my entire OP I said thats what I want ingame, and that if you dont agree what would you want ingame?
With the exception of having only one nacelle, it's nothing like a Saladin class, 'cos of the huge engineering hull.
We have more chance of getting a pre Borg Nerada or Jellyfish due to them appearing in the Countdown comics, the prequel to STO.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
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'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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its not completely impossible. they just have to jump through more hoops, and it might have a hefty pricetag attached to it should it ever actually happen. Paramount could always say No even after CBS opens negotiations with STO and paramount on it.
So you agree my argument is valid? Legality aside, the chances of Paramount relinquishing the rights to the movies are slim to none since, from your OP, the 2009 film was a smashing success. Thus, the common response for something that makes money for a business that operates solely for the pursuit of profit is a solid 'no'.
And for the sake of the record: what i want to see is less JJ and more Roddenberry.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
Did you not understand the word "Modified" in my post? :rolleyes:
Stick an engineering hull on a pylon above the saucer and you turned a Saladin into - le gasp - a Kelvin! :eek:
You should see some examples of a TOS Kelvin .
Um, dream on bud. We will never see these two ships - EVER!
The closests we will ever get to the Narada being in STO is sticking a Borg Set on a starship and those prongs coming out of the Deflector. And the Jellyfish ... goody another runabout. :rolleyes:
The designs are owned by Paramount, yes, but that just means they aren't included in the current fee.
And all that means is that Paramount needs to be persuaded via a dollar amount or a sufficient promotional need to sign off on Cryptic using them.
For example, a giveaway at showings of Into Darkness. Or a partnership with IDW or Playmates on Trek movie tie ins. Or maybe as a bonus with the eventual deluxe packaging of the new Star Trek JJ verse shooter.
It's not like CBS and Paramount are rivals or are fundamentally at odds. It's probably easier than getting the Vesta in game. The real question is whether the cost would be worth it, which is why it would probably make more sense in a scenario where Paramount is paying Cryptic for a promotional tie in or is willing to accept a reduced licensing fee in exchange for exposure for a product.
CBS and Paramount partner on the JJverse Trek comics licensing, almost the entirety of which features elements of both mixed.
That ship is extremely cool. All other opinions are invalidated by it's epicness.
AKA, it can't hear you over the sound of it's Thalaron reactor.
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Then lots of Gorn, Nauscican, Orion, Leathen, Ferasin and whatever gives the designers thier jollies.
Have them cover the missing variants that those races would have but do not have ingame, likes escorts for gorn, etc. etc.
And a Pakled ship I can buy from the C-store that when crewed by all Pakled BOffs has a unique special ability of activating the Pakleds version of a " G?tterd?mmerung" so to speak and it will iether deliver a single devastating (im saying 300K shots or higher) attack to the target or......
it blows a fuse, smoke billows forth and the ship goes dead for 5 minutes or until the owner spams the phrase " Ship no go boom. There suppossed to be a boom. Can you make go boom?" three times, at which point the ships will function again though the use of said ability will be on an awful awful waiting at the DMV awful cooldown still.
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