Khyzon Andorian ship or Jem Bug

novathelegend

Hey guys,

I was wondring if someone who is better at math than me, can tell me what the difference is between having 5 tac consoles v.s. 5 fore weapons, and which would be better for damage.

The rest of the ship in both cases would be set up more or less the same, including boffs and doffs. The only difference is that I would be using the embassy plasma infused on the khyzon and not on the bug.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: btw, I'm a tac captain and I use the rom plasma dhcs

doomicile

If it were any other ship you were comparing with the Andorian Ship, I'd say it's all a matter of preference. 5 Fore Weapons slots essentially allows for an extra cannon, whether you use 5 cannons or 4 cannons and a torpedo. But 5 Cannons will significantly drain your energy unless you're built around energy management.

5 Tac Console Slots allows for a slightly higher boost in weapon dmg, or allows for the use of a Universal Console or Torpedo damage-boosting console without sacrificing Damage potential.

but with the JHAS, you're talking about:

5 Tac Consoles + Superior Base Turnrate and Impulse Modifier + Superior Base Shields + 2500 more Hull

vs

5 Fore Weapons Slots.

guriphu

Andorian ship will do more damage when it is on target, but the bugship will spend more time on target because of its op turn rate, and will be able to focus more on throwing damage downrange because of its op tanking. Overall, the bugship still outdoes the Andorian ship even at the pure damage role. The advantage of the andorian ship is that it costs 25 dollars vs the ~300 dollars equivalent of energy credits that the jembug will cost you, is an account unlock, and is as good or better than the fleet patrol (which is a 20 dollar character unlock), and can match the bug in overall dps most of the time, even though it's not as tanky.

novathelegend

With the andorian ship im using 4 DHCs and the rom torp.

That's a good point though that you brought up. When I was comparing and debating the ships last night, I didn't take into consideration the whole picture. I was just wondering about the dps. My bug does bring much more to the table overall.

novathelegend

guriphu wrote: »

Andorian ship will do more damage when it is on target, but the bugship will spend more time on target because of its op turn rate, and will be able to focus more on throwing damage downrange because of its op tanking. Overall, the bugship still outdoes the Andorian ship even at the pure damage role. The advantage of the andorian ship is that it costs 25 dollars vs the ~300 dollars equivalent of energy credits that the jembug will cost you, is an account unlock, and is as good or better than the fleet patrol (which is a 20 dollar character unlock), and can match the bug in overall dps most of the time, even though it's not as tanky.

I already have both ships in question, so the money wouldn't be the deciding factor. I was one of the lucky ones and got my bug during the christmas event when it first came out.

I have pretty much all the ships in the game, which does leave me indecisive a lot of the time unfortunately. I have ships set up for different reasons (for example, I beat No Win Scenario in my breen ship, so I'm hardpressed to give it up for the mission alone at least).

But what im trying to decide on is a ship I stick with and use 99% of the time in STO, aside from specific scenarios when I would have to play a different role or use a different ship and setup. Which leaves me between the bug and the khyzon right now.

But you guys are getting closer to convincing me that the bug is the answer.

radkip

Go with Charal, not Khyzon. The extra shields from all those science consoles seem nice (and is what got me to buy the sci variant compared to the Eng), but being able to dump 2x RCS accelerators into your extra engineering consoles makes up for that. I was dueling a guy using my Kyzon and he was able to get his guns on me far quicker than I could on him.

Forgot to ask him specifically, but the way he worded it, he was out turning bug ships with it. Anything that can out turn a bug ship and slot 5 fore weapons is likely to defeat it unless there's a severe disparity in skill.

Just my $0.02. Khyzon is still a solid ship for group PvP, but turn rate is everything and an escort. When I go for turn rate on my Khyzon, I die. When I put on my armor consoles, I do less damage. Make what you will of it.

novathelegend

thanks for the tip radkip