And yet, if everyone took your advice there'd be no ships for you to buy on the exchange.
Whilst I agree that it's folly to spend your Dilithium/Zen on opening lockboxes, posts such as yours really irk me - you're basically calling the OP a fool yet at the same time taking advantage of people's compulsions to benefit yourself - there's something particularly ugly about that. Well done. :rolleyes:
You have just failed economics. If everyone took his advice of saving up lobi to buy lobi ships to sell to buy lockbox ships, they'd be opening lockboxes, and thus there would be proportionately more lockbox ships on the market to get. So you'd have more people buying them, but you'd also have more people getting them and, thus, selling them.
And you've just failed basic English - his point was that 'smart' people buy keys and sell them for EC to buy the ships off the Exchange. He never mentioned Lobi and neither did I.
And once again, if everyone followed his advice a) there'd be a lot of keys for sale with nobody buying them and b) you wouldn't see any Lobi ships on the Exchange either because y'know - you have to use keys to get Lobi :rolleyes:
People that buy this stuff for EC are always quick to point out how dumb the people opening lockboxes are - there's a term for that: 'biting the hand that feeds you'.
You got bug ships from the boxes? I wasted so much money looking for one......
I wish they would a special section in the store for the "special ships" which we can buy directly and get rid of the gambling aspect of the game or reduce the price by at least 50% for the keys.
You got bug ships from the boxes? I wasted so much money looking for one......
I wish they would a special section in the store for the "special ships" which we can buy directly and get rid of the gambling aspect of the game or reduce the price by at least 50% for the keys.
At the moment a Bug would cost you $225.00 or 22500 Zen (=200 Master Keys selling for 1,500,000 EC each or 300,000,000 EC) - if you wait for a Key sale (and then sell them afterwards) then potentially you might get it for less.
There's other ways of getting that kind of coin together though - doing Foundry stuff like Battleship Royal Rumble still nets a lot of loot and farming Contraband KDF-side can be very lucrative (250 Contraband sells for around 12,500,000 EC if I remember correctly). Patience is a virtue here
And anyone wanting a Bug is best off waiting until they've reappeared in-game - either in lockboxes or Doff packs - once there's a few more in the system, the price will drop a little (for a while).
I'm curious to see if the Kumari impacts the price of the Jem'hadar Attack Ship actually - whilst the bug is still the better ship, the Kumari does have those 5 front-facing weapons - I suspect a lot of players will consider that 'better' or perhaps 'good enough'.
You got bug ships from the boxes? I wasted so much money looking for one......
I wish they would a special section in the store for the "special ships" which we can buy directly and get rid of the gambling aspect of the game or reduce the price by at least 50% for the keys.
If the keys were 100 zen rather than 125, I think they would sell better.
Faith is an appropriate word for assuming you're going to be rewarded simply due to thinking you should be rewarded.
I've never counted how many boxes I've opened. I have opened a lot of them. If I could make an army out of Doffs, I'd be in charge of half the galaxy by now. I've also never had a day without a rich mining claim since the boxes went live. I suppose if I had waited to spend the Zen I gained from all the dilithium, I'd be up to my ears in C-Store ships by now.
But I found the consolation prizes in this Dominion box to be far more practical for my gameplay than some ship would be, being bound to character that I then couldn't delete no matter how tired out the concept is without losing the ship and all...
Each box contains 4 lobi. Base your calculations on that.
They also contain some other stuff, sometimes including more lobi. That's all bonus crackerjack prizes; base your decisions on 4 lobi.
If it's not worth 4 lobi, buy something else.
This is how PWE get around the lockbox legal issue that says "the contents must be greater than the value of the key." By ensuring the only certain content is a currency THEY dictate the value of, they can say any TRIBBLE they put in a box is greater than the value of the key.
Problem is any intelligent person who has worked out exactly how much a lobi crystal is worth in real money knows how absurd the prices in the lobi store are. 60+ Euros ($75) for a Tachyokinetic Console, 230 Euros ($300) for a Temporal Destoyer?
Interesting definition of Micro Transaction these PWE guys have.
Edit: no GBP sign. These prices are based on current Euro -> Zen -> Key -> 4 Lobi prices.
Seriously, the house always wins. What do you expect when you gamble?
You'd be better off with blackjack. Better odds, and you have a better chance of walking away with enough cash to pump into zen to get the ship you want.
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And you've just failed basic English - his point was that 'smart' people buy keys and sell them for EC to buy the ships off the Exchange. He never mentioned Lobi and neither did I.
And once again, if everyone followed his advice a) there'd be a lot of keys for sale with nobody buying them and b) you wouldn't see any Lobi ships on the Exchange either because y'know - you have to use keys to get Lobi :rolleyes:
People that buy this stuff for EC are always quick to point out how dumb the people opening lockboxes are - there's a term for that: 'biting the hand that feeds you'.
The Bugs came from the duty officers pack run.
At the moment a Bug would cost you $225.00 or 22500 Zen (=200 Master Keys selling for 1,500,000 EC each or 300,000,000 EC) - if you wait for a Key sale (and then sell them afterwards) then potentially you might get it for less.
There's other ways of getting that kind of coin together though - doing Foundry stuff like Battleship Royal Rumble still nets a lot of loot and farming Contraband KDF-side can be very lucrative (250 Contraband sells for around 12,500,000 EC if I remember correctly). Patience is a virtue here
And anyone wanting a Bug is best off waiting until they've reappeared in-game - either in lockboxes or Doff packs - once there's a few more in the system, the price will drop a little (for a while).
I'm curious to see if the Kumari impacts the price of the Jem'hadar Attack Ship actually - whilst the bug is still the better ship, the Kumari does have those 5 front-facing weapons - I suspect a lot of players will consider that 'better' or perhaps 'good enough'.
If the keys were 100 zen rather than 125, I think they would sell better.
Faith is an appropriate word for assuming you're going to be rewarded simply due to thinking you should be rewarded.
I've never counted how many boxes I've opened. I have opened a lot of them. If I could make an army out of Doffs, I'd be in charge of half the galaxy by now. I've also never had a day without a rich mining claim since the boxes went live. I suppose if I had waited to spend the Zen I gained from all the dilithium, I'd be up to my ears in C-Store ships by now.
But I found the consolation prizes in this Dominion box to be far more practical for my gameplay than some ship would be, being bound to character that I then couldn't delete no matter how tired out the concept is without losing the ship and all...
Word to that.
I purchased about $70 dollars worth of DOFF packs - no ships... I suck....
I think so as well. The extra 25 is like a slap in the face. Then for the 10 pack there is not even a discount! Go figure....
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Um... yes there is...
125 x 10 =1250.
10 pack = 1125. You save 125 zen. 10 for the price of 9 :P
Hmmm... I need to stop visiting the store after 12 - 15 hours of play.
ingame: @.Spartan
Original Cryptic Forum Name: Spartan (member #124)
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They also contain some other stuff, sometimes including more lobi. That's all bonus crackerjack prizes; base your decisions on 4 lobi.
If it's not worth 4 lobi, buy something else.
This is how PWE get around the lockbox legal issue that says "the contents must be greater than the value of the key." By ensuring the only certain content is a currency THEY dictate the value of, they can say any TRIBBLE they put in a box is greater than the value of the key.
Problem is any intelligent person who has worked out exactly how much a lobi crystal is worth in real money knows how absurd the prices in the lobi store are. 60+ Euros ($75) for a Tachyokinetic Console, 230 Euros ($300) for a Temporal Destoyer?
Interesting definition of Micro Transaction these PWE guys have.
Edit: no GBP sign. These prices are based on current Euro -> Zen -> Key -> 4 Lobi prices.
At 4 Lobi a Lobi store ship costs 22500 Zen....that's a very very VERY steep price for one single ship you can only use on one character.
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You'd be better off with blackjack. Better odds, and you have a better chance of walking away with enough cash to pump into zen to get the ship you want.