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Andorian Phasers

countesscorvinnacountesscorvinna Member Posts: 12 Arc User
edited July 2013 in Federation Discussion
I like the look of these weapons, but am a little disappointed they are only available as Mk XI. It would seem there isn't a point to using them, aside from looks and to keep everything matching, if you already have fleet weapons. I'd like to see them changed to Mark XII, or a Mark XII set added somewhere.
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    thegurpslordthegurpslord Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    They seem to have an overall higher base DPS block and I suppose ACC2 isn't terrible. I'd say a reg mk XII phaser vs the MK XI andorian, andorian would be the choice. Fleet ones tho, I'd still use over the andorian ones.
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    countesscorvinnacountesscorvinna Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Well, I suppose the main thing, is that the vesta comes with Mk XII cannons...so at the least, Mk XII should be available for the andorian ships.
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    aramyllaramyll Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I agree why is a ship designed for vice admiral equipped and limited to mk 11 weapons, a ship designed for doing dps is stuck using mk 11 weapons ???? That just makes no sense, and like you said the vesta SCIENCE ship is equipped with Mk 12 cannons

    what attributes do the cannons have?? please done tell me they are DMG x4 and have no other modifier like the quad cannons cause that would just suck.

    are they cannons, dual cannons, or dual heavy cannons??
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    buddha1369buddha1369 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    aramyll wrote: »
    I agree why is a ship designed for vice admiral equipped and limited to mk 11 weapons, a ship designed for doing dps is stuck using mk 11 weapons ???? That just makes no sense, and like you said the vesta SCIENCE ship is equipped with Mk 12 cannons

    what attributes do the cannons have?? please done tell me they are DMG x4 and have no other modifier like the quad cannons cause that would just suck.

    are they cannons, dual cannons, or dual heavy cannons??

    You can get them in any type. Beam, cannon, turret, etc. Also all of them have ACCx2 DMG modifiers, thats my favorie type :)
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    ariseaboveariseabove Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The Andorian Phasers that come with the ship are very nice and the Andorian Phasers in the Dill store are a bit under par, I bought just one MK XI heavy from the Dill store and then got a MK XII Advanced Fleet cannon as well and can't forget the mighty quads.

    Works well apart from the phasers that are on the wings light up blue and the others are the normal orange but it has devastating DPS, need to keep a close eye on the power levels too.
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    wmcarsonwmcarson Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    SIGH - Disclaimer - I'm an idiot and a dork

    I bought a full set because I couldn't stand having blue and orange pew pews, despite my Detroit Tiger pride.

    The weapons are visually BAMF, damage wise MEH. For PVE probably not going to be much of a difference, and w/ the added 10% passive acc bonus from the 2 piece set and the relatively low price (compared to spirals) i'd say it is a pretty OP item for players new to level 50 or those that don't like doing PVP.
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    mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    aramyll wrote: »
    I agree why is a ship designed for vice admiral equipped and limited to mk 11 weapons, a ship designed for doing dps is stuck using mk 11 weapons ???? That just makes no sense, and like you said the vesta SCIENCE ship is equipped with Mk 12 cannons

    what attributes do the cannons have?? please done tell me they are DMG x4 and have no other modifier like the quad cannons cause that would just suck.

    are they cannons, dual cannons, or dual heavy cannons??

    The Kumari Wing Cannons are [Dmg]x4 unleveled... and do about as much or more base DPS than Advanced Fleet DHCs. Andorian Phasers (different!) are simply blue phasers with [Dmg] and [Acc]x2 modifiers, available for the normal 22k-and-change dilithium for VR Mk XI space weapons.
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    timerastimeras Member Posts: 33 Media Corps
    edited February 2013
    mandoknight89 wrote: »
    The Kumari Wing Cannons are [Dmg]x4 unleveled... and do about as much or more base DPS than Advanced Fleet DHCs. Andorian Phasers (different!) are simply blue phasers with [Dmg] and [Acc]x2 modifiers, available for the normal 22k-and-change dilithium for VR Mk XI space weapons.

    Additionally to the [Dmg] and [ACC]x2 my Andorian Phasers also show +20 Critical Severity in the Tooltip, so is there a hidden [CritD] modifier?
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    hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    timeras wrote: »
    Additionally to the [Dmg] and [ACC]x2 my Andorian Phasers also show +20 Critical Severity in the Tooltip, so is there a hidden [CritD] modifier?

    Yeah, I was going to ask, is there any real difference between the Andorian Phasers and regular Phasers? Because if there wasn't I was planning on sticking to my mk XII phasers I already have.

    But if they get a passive critical severity bonus... well then that changes things...
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
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    stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Per Archoncryptic in this post they're supposed to be just recolored phasers.
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    jornadojornado Member Posts: 918 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    timeras wrote: »
    Additionally to the [Dmg] and [ACC]x2 my Andorian Phasers also show +20 Critical Severity in the Tooltip, so is there a hidden [CritD] modifier?

    Were you looking at DHCs? Don't those have an innate CrtD modifier anyway? Just curious.
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    aramyllaramyll Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    My only confusion with the Andorian phasers available in the Dilithium store is why are they Mk XI, what was the thought that drove towards that conclusion for these weapons. A vice admiral ship (escort) meant to be designed for damage is given sub par weapons. When you have other ships like the Vesta that were given Mk XII weapons to begin with.
    Never really looked at the spinal phasers so not sure if they are Mk XII as well. Why didn't they just make it so that phasers equipped on the Andorian SHip would have the blue hue and not added these sub par weapons.

    On a separate note im loving the wing cannons, beautiful work. Now explain to me why the quad cannons are not similar to this. Quads are meant to shred other ships but they are currently very lack luster, they barely match up to regular Mk XII DC and DHC and are borderline useless once you get to fleet weapons. For an item that is meant to level and progress with you it leaves itself wanting.
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    stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    aramyll wrote: »
    When you have other ships like the Vesta that were given Mk XII weapons to begin with.

    To be accurate, the Aux cannon equivalent on the Kumari are the wing cannons, which to my knowledge do scale to Mk XII.

    It's the d-store Andorian themed "regular" phasers (turrets, cannons, dcs, dhcs, beams and dbbs) that are Mk XI.
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    hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    jornado wrote: »
    Were you looking at DHCs? Don't those have an innate CrtD modifier anyway? Just curious.

    DHCs only have a innate 10% crit severity.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
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    kelsisiefertkelsisiefert Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Seems neat.
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    buddha1369buddha1369 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I was looking at the andorian DBB, only andorian weapon I have so far, and despite being Mk XI it looks like it has the same stat as a MK XII weapon. Take a look, both have one DMG modifier

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    bubblygumsworthbubblygumsworth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Would you like another tac console slot to go with those MKXII andorian phasers?
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    onedallarbillonedallarbill Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I did some reserch all the andorian phasers and are equal in damage to their mk XII phaser counterparts. look it up for your self I'd almost say that the mk XI is a typo.
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    snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    onedallarbill wrote: »
    I did some reserch all the andorian phasers and are equal in damage to their mk XII phaser counterparts. look it up for your self I'd almost say that the mk XI is a typo.

    Shhhhhh. Let's keep this a secret. So people can keep you know talking about how bad the ship is because of the already fixed shield and healing bugs, and the super horrible MK XI special phasers.

    The rest of us will just whistle nonchalantly and fly on by with our Kumaris.
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    timerastimeras Member Posts: 33 Media Corps
    edited February 2013
    onedallarbill wrote: »
    I did some reserch all the andorian phasers and are equal in damage to their mk XII phaser counterparts. look it up for your self I'd almost say that the mk XI is a typo.

    I would say, this is correct. I compared them to my old MKII [Borg] Phaser Cannons and some fleet versions and stat/modifier-wise the MKXI Andorian Phasers are on par with any MKII weapon ingame. Especially the [ACC]x2 modifier is otherwise only found on the cardassian phasers, which are great aswell.
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    jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,804 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Give them time. I'm sure you'll see an Mk XII upgrade in the Lobi Store for a couple of hundred Lobi like they did with the Jem set. Cryptic is all about taking your money and finding more ways to do so.
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    ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    Shhhhhh. Let's keep this a secret. So people can keep you know talking about how bad the ship is because of the already fixed shield and healing bugs, and the super horrible MK XI special phasers.

    The rest of us will just whistle nonchalantly and fly on by with our Kumaris.

    When I compared them, my MK XII had higher base damage.

    I think at launch the MK XI andorians were a little higher than MK XII but it seems to have been fixed.
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    darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    So, Cannons are worse then my MK XII [acc]x3's. Except for the Kumari which is suepr uper squishy, both other variants get outDPS'ed by a bug,

    gg!!!!

    Well i guess for PvE anything will do, who cares about stats then :p


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    timerastimeras Member Posts: 33 Media Corps
    edited February 2013
    darkfader1988 wrote: »
    So, Cannons are worse then my MK XII [acc]x3's. Except for the Kumari which is suepr uper squishy, both other variants get outDPS'ed by a bug,

    gg!!!!

    Well i guess for PvE anything will do, who cares about stats then :p


    YEH BABY GIVE US MORE [dmg]x6!!!!!!!

    Comparing the Andorian Escorts with the bug ship is nonsense. The bug ship is so far from achievable for everyone not swimming in EC and the Andorian Escorts just cost some dilithium, which is so easy to get.
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    jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,804 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Here is what you all want to see. Look at the two tweets from CaptainGeko stating the incoming buffs to the Andorian ship.
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    timerastimeras Member Posts: 33 Media Corps
    edited February 2013
    jcsww wrote: »
    Here is what you all want to see. Look at the two tweets from CaptainGeko stating the incoming buffs to the Andorian ship.

    This might be the fastest "ship love" reaction from the DEV's i've ever seen. These new escorts seem to be in the same rank as the Excelsior among the DEV's. :)
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    chuckingramchuckingram Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    darkfader1988 wrote: »
    Well i guess for PvE anything will do, who cares about stats then :p

    The people who play PvE do. You might try thinking before you type.
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    snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    timeras wrote: »
    This might be the fastest "ship love" reaction from the DEV's i've ever seen. These new escorts seem to be in the same rank as the Excelsior among the DEV's. :)

    This would be the first time in 3 years that I fly a ship that the devs "like."

    I'm going to live it up! Heh.
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    chance74chance74 Member Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Hi, I'm new to the forums but found this while searching info on the Andorian phasers.

    Subsequent searches revealed these release notes.

    So, it seems they are now nothing more than blue phasers? What a shame.
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