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Can we not have Ferengi added to the KDF?

trekkie1074trekkie1074 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
edited February 2014 in Klingon Discussion
why not? I mean there are good/bad Ferengi (like klingons) but I really would love to roll a KDF Ferengi.
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  • dma1986dma1986 Member Posts: 541 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I agree. There are even Ferengi in the First city, so it's not like the KDF are opposed to them.

    Additionally, we need a race with the Ferengi lobes trait on the KDF, for economic balance reasons. The 20% savings really add up over time if you're buying stuff for reputation/fleet/embassy projects.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I don't see why not. The Ferengi after all exploit all business oportunities wherever they are. Hell, they worked with the Dominion.

    I think it's ok to have Ferengi in KDF since more than less Ferengi disagree with Rom's policies. The only obstacle would be Klingons despising Ferengi, but since KDF is not all Klingon any more I think it could work.
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  • zix74itaelitezix74itaelite Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    for the love of Gene Roddenberry... I only play on KDF side but ... ferenghi and Klingons? no please I understand JJ Abraham has made a mess of things but I rather have Ewoks !! they are sort of warriors aren't they... evil little teddy bears armed and fully charged with the lust for blood...






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  • trekkie1074trekkie1074 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    LOL....what does JJ Abrams have to do with Ferengi?
  • wombat140wombat140 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Perfect example of how the KDF content would be so much better if it reacted to your character's race. With the Federation, it works, because the whole premise of the Federation is that all these people mostly get along and mostly like the idea of coexisting with other species. The KDF... well.

    The Letheans, as far as I can make out, came into the KDF to save their own skins, and the Klingons put up with them because the telepathy is useful, but treat them like dirt and are secretly scared of them. The Gorn never intended to be KDF in the first place so heaven only knows what they think. What the Orions REALLY think of the Klingons is anyone's guess, but "suckers" possibly comes into it. Et cetera. We could have a lot of fun with this. (Can a Foundry mission react to player race? If so, has anyone done that?)

    If the Ferengi came in (and I like the idea), that would be the same thing SQUARED:
    the Klingons put them somewhere on a level with tribbles, though they might weaken if you had a REALLY big bat'leth for sale
    the Orions would probably look down on them as amateurs, having been smugglers themselves for a million years or whatever
    the Letheans are desperate enough for any kind of dodgy dealing so a Ferengi would always be useful, and being basically telepathy-proof the Ferengi might be happier to deal with them than most

    I think I see what zix74itaelite is getting at - there's no reasonable way that the Ferengi would be officially in the KDF. But actually they're not properly in the Federation either, if I remember rightly. They have various official arrangements with the Federation, that's all that gets them into Starfleet; but Ferengi being Ferengi, they're bound to have similar arrangements with the KDF too, if at all possible... The Orions would probably listen to such an offer if the Klingons wouldn't, and if I remember rightly the Orions have enough clout in the alliance that they could have a private deal with the Ferengi if they damn well wanted to.
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    If I recalled, the Ferengi for the most part are a Neutral Race.

    The ones that join the Federation are probably just following in Nog's footsteps (if I can be a carebear for a minute) while any others would probably be following Grand Negas Rom's advice.. and let's face it..he is an idiot. :P And he has been Pro Federation anyway since the end of the Dominion War, right? So if that's still the case in this game's time line, (can't recall at the moment) It makes more sense for the Ferengi to still be neutral but with Federation sided issues vs. the Klingons.

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  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    webdeath wrote: »
    If I recalled, the Ferengi for the most part are a Neutral Race.

    The ones that join the Federation are probably just following in Nog's footsteps (if I can be a carebear for a minute) while any others would probably be following Grand Negas Rom's advice.. and let's face it..he is an idiot. :P And he has been Pro Federation anyway since the end of the Dominion War, right? So if that's still the case in this game's time line, (can't recall at the moment) It makes more sense for the Ferengi to still be neutral but with Federation sided issues vs. the Klingons.

    Quark said it best.. "We aren't warriors.. we're business men!" :D

    This. Ferengi make more sense as neutral, off-to-the-side 'traders'. There's really no need to have them in either the Federation or the KDF.
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  • crusty8maccrusty8mac Member Posts: 1,381 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Forget the Romulans, the Ferengi should be our third faction with a whole series of missions geared toward stupid and exploitative business practices.
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  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I can understand the economic reasons why someone might want a Ferengi or similar race available for KDF.

    But thematically I can't really see the Klingon High Council being okay with giving command of a battlecruiser to a Ferengi.

    What might be acceptable would be to add a new trait to Orions (male and female) that allows them to get a vendor discount, or to add the vendor discount to the Seductive trait.

    It's not out-of-bounds for an Orion to have contacts with merchants, right?
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  • defiant8472defiant8472 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Agree! We need ferengi on KDF! Why do we see some ferengi NPC in QuonoS, they work with klingons and we're unable to create such race character? Ferengi are everywhere and they should be on KDF!

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  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    bluegeek wrote: »
    But thematically I can't really see the Klingon High Council being okay with giving command of a battlecruiser to a Ferengi.

    Yeah, but that's hardly an excuse: I don't see them being okay with giving command to any race other than Klingons, yet they do.

    Ferengi in the KDF makes as much sense as Ferengi in the Federation. Or Trill in the KDF, for that matter.
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    bluegeek wrote: »
    I can understand the economic reasons why someone might want a Ferengi or similar race available for KDF.

    But thematically I can't really see the Klingon High Council being okay with giving command of a battlecruiser to a Ferengi.

    What might be acceptable would be to add a new trait to Orions (male and female) that allows them to get a vendor discount, or to add the vendor discount to the Seductive trait.

    It's not out-of-bounds for an Orion to have contacts with merchants, right?

    I agree. From a Theme point, only Quark was involved with the Klingon Empire in "House of Quark"(DS9), and that episode only highlighted the clash of cultures and pointed out how totally different they are.

    I do completely agree that a "business" trait could be given to the Orions as they are a mercentile speices much like the Ferengi.
  • kolbrandrkolbrandr Member Posts: 266
    edited February 2014
    Ferrengi seem more like a "play both sides against the middle" type of race to me.
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    bluegeek wrote: »
    What might be acceptable would be to add a new trait to Orions (male and female) that allows them to get a vendor discount, or to add the vendor discount to the Seductive trait.
    Orions should get a trait that increases the chances and quality of loot dropped by kills in space.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    It's a Zombie Ferengi!
    It's here to steal our brainz and latinum!
    Kill it! KILL IT! KILL IT FIRE!
  • mewmaster101mewmaster101 Member Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Ferengi are on Qo'Nos because they are selling stuff, they have no actual relation to the KDF. Also, Klingons in general do not trust them at all and consider them weaklings and Cowards for the most part.
  • elandarkskyelandarksky Member Posts: 1,013 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    There's nothing saying that if a ferngi join the KDF its a part of an alliance/treaty related thing? We have trills for heavens sake afterall :D

    Honestly the only ferengi thing i want is the trait that increases sale prices, so its on level with choices for federation players, a new species, old species with a habit of trading (dosi for example) or a new species to join the KDF with the trait would be nice :)
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    edited February 2014
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