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commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
I just got my missions republished and tried the one I have the "qualifies" to see how much dilithium it rewarded. I wanted to put that in the mission info. When I finished, it rewarded nothing, not even XP for completion.

Anyone else seeing the same issues?
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  • zorbanezorbane Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Apparently you don't get rewards for playing your own missions
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  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    zorbane wrote: »
    Apparently you don't get rewards for playing your own missions

    Nice, so if I want to play it with a few friends I am...
  • zorbanezorbane Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Nice, so if I want to play it with a few friends I am...

    Yea, I dunno if its something Cryptic meant to do or a bug. We'll see I suppose
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  • neotrident12neotrident12 Member Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I am also recieving this issue as well, it effects any character on the account that created the mission.
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  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    zorbane wrote: »
    Yea, I dunno if its something Cryptic meant to do or a bug. We'll see I suppose

    Perhaps it is tied to the Spotlight Bug, where the authors are not getting the scaling bonus dilithium. If it is not a bug, it is pretty bad form on Cryptic's part.
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited February 2013
    I don't believe this is a bug, unfortunately. The rewards are tied to you completing the mission and getting the review pop-up. Since you can't review your own mission, you won't be rewarded. I will pass along your feedback that you would like to be rewarded for playing your own mission, though.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Perhaps it is tied to the Spotlight Bug, where the authors are not getting the scaling bonus dilithium.

    You mean players not getting the scaled amount of dilithium? :rolleyes:
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  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    - Retracted Zorbane clarified -
  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    You mean players not getting the scaled amount of dilithium? :rolleyes:

    Foundry authors are players, they are playing missions, so I am not seeing your point.
  • zorbanezorbane Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    So that also means as a player you can only play a mission ONCE and get the dilithium since you only review it once?

    You still get the review popup if you're playing a mission for the second (or one hundredth) time
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  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    zorbane wrote: »
    You still get the review popup if you're playing a mission for the second (or one hundredth) time

    You are right, sorry about that. Trying to do too many things at once here at work and that slipped my mind.
  • stevehalestevehale Member Posts: 437
    edited February 2013
    I don't believe this is a bug, unfortunately. The rewards are tied to you completing the mission and getting the review pop-up. Since you can't review your own mission, you won't be rewarded. I will pass along your feedback that you would like to be rewarded for playing your own mission, though.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Yeah, believe it or not, it would be kind of nice to get credit for playing a mission you spent a lot of time creating. Please pardon my irritated tone. I just find it hard to believe this is even an issue, much less that it might be working as intended:(.
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  • f9thaceshighf9thaceshigh Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I just got my missions republished and tried the one I have the "qualifies" to see how much dilithium it rewarded. I wanted to put that in the mission info. When I finished, it rewarded nothing, not even XP for completion.

    Anyone else seeing the same issues?

    keep in mind that the Dil reward will be constantly fluctuating, it is tied to average completion time, and it's certainly going to change once people find the mission, there's not much point in putting the reward amount in the mission info.
    stevehale wrote: »
    Yeah, believe it or not, it would be kind of nice to get credit for playing a mission you spent a lot of time creating. Please pardon my irritated tone. I just find it hard to believe this is even an issue, much less that it might be working as intended:(.

    That might be in place to keep authors from milking their own missions, you might have an unfair advantage if you know your way around the mission.

    It's not like you don't get any credit for the mission, you do get tips from players.
  • stevehalestevehale Member Posts: 437
    edited February 2013
    I just don't see the logic behind someone creating something that they think is fun (and let's be honest, it's entirely possible that the creator is the only one who thinks it's fun) and then not being able to enjoy it while reaping the rewards just because they created it.

    Even if you know your own mission and could milk every exploit in the book, if your rewards are scaled based on time what is the harm? Besides, it isn't like a friend or an alt couldn't make that mission... hmmm... that's a crappy alternative but I suppose that's one way around it.
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  • infinityboundinfinitybound Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I don't believe this is a bug, unfortunately. The rewards are tied to you completing the mission and getting the review pop-up. Since you can't review your own mission, you won't be rewarded. I will pass along your feedback that you would like to be rewarded for playing your own mission, though.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Its ok to say faulty coding. We can accept that, so long as it gets corrected.

    This is nice to know PW is listening to this very critical issue. It will impact Neverwinter as well as STO. Although, before this patch, we still got rewarded and that reward was based on completion and a pop up, and we could not review our own missions before. I really hope PW intends to fix this. I have spent years in this game and much of it in the foundry. I have waited on Neverwinter for a long time with excitement, but if I am penalized for playing my own missions, I will not play STO or Neverwinter. I really hope you guys figure out how to bring the excitement back to me and many others, quickly. For now, I struggle to log in. If it were not for me leading 2 very active fleets, I would not even bother logging in.
  • asardetemplariasardetemplari Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Personally, I agree that you should get rewards for your own missions.

    However, I think the previous system was better and should be re-implemented. 50 fleet marks from one mission compared to... say 13 per fleet action? Not only is that ridiculous, but you cannot honestly expect people to spend 2000 fleet marks on a project when they earn 13-30 per fleet action.


    There's also the people that make the missions you have to consider. THEY put their time into making these fun missions and their work isn't really recognized. It isn't really appreciated and they can't benefit from their own missions.


    Please put the IOR system back to the way it was or you're not going to have as many people playing Foundry missions.


    In protest, I refuse to participate in any Fleet Actions. I suggest more people do the same.
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  • chapel29chapel29 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    i think they should get rewards for doing the missions like everyone else plus thay have spent there time makein the missions for other players to enjoy so why not what is good for one is good for all simple:)
  • morthekaimorthekai Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pwe invites people to make more content but refuses to reward them like every other player who is doing their missions.
    maybe iam wrong but this will keep a lot of authors from making more foundry stuff.
    im really worried because the foundry is a huge part of the game for me since it keeps the game from getting stf-online instead of sto.
    i fear that if pwe keeps treating the authors like this, a lot of them will remove their missions and leave the foundry. this would be a loss for the whole community and cause even more tears.
    remembering all the crying about the loss of fm when doing foundry, i dont even want to imagine the crying when missions get removed by the authors, leaving the people just with the content pwe offers. i highly doubt that sto will be mmo of the year again and i dont think that pwe wants another 1k posts crying threat when this happens...

    oh and iam no author but im playing a lot of foundrymissions so authors leaving or stop publishing missions would hit me really hard
  • garfon10garfon10 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I understnad about the removal of the fleet marks, and i totaly support that, but i am also expecting them to be added back in. I'm hoping that they will be added into the fleet mission we already do. Then numbers we recieve now are very small, and not worth our time.
    As for the foundry authors not getting rewards for the mission they created is very disheartening to hear about. I have two friends that are authors and both are very upset. It is sad, they are players too and should get the same rewards everyone else gets even if they know there mission like the back of there hand. Come now cryptic/PWE lets get it together. Fix this issue so that our foundry authors will be happy and continue to make the stuff we look forward to play everyday.
  • odin4201313odin4201313 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    What the frak man, i spent a few days building a sweet lil pew pew mission, only to find out i cant get rewards for when i do it?!? What kind of socialistic fascists make these decisions?!
    oh i answered my own question.. Im pulling all my foundry missions and i suggest all the other authors do the same! If everyone seems to be against this "decision" and nothing is going to be done, boycotting sounds like a fine solution to me. :mad:
  • crypticfrostcrypticfrost Member Posts: 1,479 Cryptic Developer
    edited February 2013
    I have put in a request for Foundry authors to be able to get credit for playing their own missions. It is currently under consideration. I ask that you please try to be patient.
    STO QA Team
  • stevehalestevehale Member Posts: 437
    edited February 2013
    Thanks a lot:).
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    It's terrible but easy, and these Borg are way cooler than the mess STO and Voyager left us.
    May not actually be "way" cooler or even "slightly" cooler.
  • chivalrybeanchivalrybean Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I have put in a request for Foundry authors to be able to get credit for playing their own missions. It is currently under consideration. I ask that you please try to be patient.

    That explains what happened to me when I tested mine! Thanks, good to know what happened and that there's a ticket for it to be fixed.
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  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I have put in a request for Foundry authors to be able to get credit for playing their own missions. It is currently under consideration. I ask that you please try to be patient.

    Thanks a bunch!
  • capthaydencapthayden Member Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I had the same thought: Since I authored the mission, I wasn't getting the rewards.

    So, I had a fleetmate play through the mission to tell me what the reward was.

    He didn't get anything either! So, I'm inclined to believe it's a bug.
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  • kalvorax#3775 kalvorax Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    well if its still under the Review section then it wouldn't be eligible in the first place....not until it had enough review to become public...and then get enough average play time to qualify....seems a bit messed up i think.
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  • capthaydencapthayden Member Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The mission in question is public and according to the header also qualified for rewards.

    It's been played many times and open to the public for almost a year. But since no one is getting rewards, the system is clearly bugged.

    "Preemption: Federation" is the mission by the way.
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  • crypticfrostcrypticfrost Member Posts: 1,479 Cryptic Developer
    edited February 2013
    capthayden wrote: »
    The mission in question is public and according to the header also qualified for rewards.

    It's been played many times and open to the public for almost a year. But since no one is getting rewards, the system is clearly bugged.

    "Preemption: Federation" is the mission by the way.

    If you also get me the Mission ID (ST-stuff) I'll see what I can find out.
    STO QA Team
  • capthaydencapthayden Member Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    St-h02bpwgky.
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  • infinityboundinfinitybound Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I have put in a request for Foundry authors to be able to get credit for playing their own missions. It is currently under consideration. I ask that you please try to be patient.

    Saddly, 10 days and two patches later, and still no word on giving us back our rewards. I have been trying to be patient, and feel I have been more than patient. This is something that must be fixed. It will not be long before more people realize that the authors are being treated as free, expendable, labor. I am not a waitress here to work for less than minimum wage, and limited gratuity. (standard Dil reward = minimum wage in STO, and limiting the tip is limited gratuity)

    There is absloutly no advantage for an author to play their own mission; therefore, there is no reason to take away our rewards for doing our own missions. We got rewarded before and there is no reason for this to be taken away from us intentionally. The author's time to complete their own missions was never factored into the average completion time for qualification and should not be, but this never stopped us from gaining equal rewards for playing our own missions in the past.

    If this is any indication of how the authors will be treated in Neverwinter, I for one, and many others, will not play it. I have played both former Neverwinter titles for years as a custom content creator. I stayed with STO because of the foundry and my MMO loyalty has been with PW/Cryptic because of this and the release of Neverwinter. I am very worried about this action taken by PW. This is going to have long term effects that many of you may not see clearly right now. This is big time, not some small bug that you have time to waste correcting.

    When the servers go back up today, I will be taking all of my foundry missions down. I will be encouraging other authors to do the same. I will be actively talking with many people, players and authors about this. I have 2 very active fleets that I lead and we all have been patient. It has been a bad feeling to log into this game since the patch that "ninjaed" our rewards away. Nothing was ever mentioned in the origional patch notes, which made me feel this was just an oversight in the code. After seeing PWs responses on this thread and the lack of correcting this, I am becoming convinced that this is intended and that worries me a lot.

    I really hope you all take this seriously, as players, authors, developers and marketers. This is a HUGE mistake for this game, this company, and the future of community authored things in both STO and Neverwinter. If you all need help with your code, Cryptic, let me know. I am sure many of us in the community, including myself have the skills and degrees to make your code work properly. :(

    EDIT: Some changes can take more time to investigate, consider and decide on a course of action, then implement it if it is decided on. Frost mentioned he has passed along the request, and he has, and it's being considered by the decision makers. If more information is available, he will post about it, but in the meantime, please be patient :) Thanks for understanding! ~BranFlakes
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