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  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Anybody remember the Battle of Wolf 359?

    5 escorts are not supposed to be able to shred half a dozen tactical cubes with zero losses.

    A single Borg cube is supposed to be fully capable of laying waste to an entire fleet.

    Resistance is futile. Get used to it.
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    ...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
    - Anne Bredon
  • mneinthmneinth Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    A single Borg cube is supposed to be fully capable of laying waste to an entire fleet.

    I can live with this,but at the very least i wanna see it coming.I don't mind the plasma bolts,I have half a chance even in a carrier to either kill it or run away(evasive manuv :>) But getting tagged by something I can't see is akin to being sucker punched.I'm not really a fan of one-hit kills from anything,but if their gonna be there,let us see them and know we are doomed.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    sander233 wrote: »
    Anybody remember the Battle of Wolf 359?

    5 escorts are not supposed to be able to shred half a dozen tactical cubes with zero losses.

    A single Borg cube is supposed to be fully capable of laying waste to an entire fleet.

    Resistance is futile. Get used to it.
    It was decades ago. Since then, we fought the borgs, and found new technology to fight them. Borg cube no longer blow a fleet by themselves. A single Borg Cube was able to destroy a fleet. Not anymore.

    Also, I don't remember an invisible finger of doom blowing the enterprise. All the weapons/things the borg use are visible. Powerful, but nothing invisible.

    We don't say the borg should be easier, they should be powerful, but they shouldn't be almighty. The finger of god is no fun, and is not powerful, it's just random and frustrating.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    erei1 wrote: »
    It was decades ago. Since then, we fought the borgs, and found new technology to fight them. Borg cube no longer blow a fleet by themselves. A single Borg Cube was able to destroy a fleet. Not anymore.

    Really? According to in-game lore, we've been ignoring the Borg as a potential threat since 2385 when Janeway's task force got dismantled and we've only recently woken up to the fact that they're still out there and still want to take over the galaxy.

    New technology? Where? We're still using phasers/disruptors and photon torpedoes as standard-issue weapons. Quantum, tricobalt and transphasic torps have all been around for at least the past four decades. Most of our ship designs are decades if not centuries old. (*cough* excelsior.) Anti-proton weapons may be sorta new, but those aren't really all that effective against the Borg. Plasma - at best were using the Borg's own technology against them. Its that or we borrowed it from the romulans. Shield and deflector technology may have improved somewhat, but since the Borg's killer weapons can bypass shields you can't argue that new shields are helping all that much.

    Meanwhile the Borg have had half the galaxy to run around in for the last forty years, assimilating God knows how many other species and all of their technology. Who knows - maybe some Delta-quadrant mad scientist invented an invisible plasmaball of painful messy death and then got assimilated.
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    ...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
    - Anne Bredon
  • alexhurlbutalexhurlbut Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I know that STF borg ships and structures use Beam Overload which can one shot your ship. The best thing about that is if you were targeting the said ship/structure you'll be able to see the buff in time to take measures among which is using a subnucleonic beam on it.
  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,788 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Really? I've never seen that happen. :confused:


    Indeed. Like I said, I have only had it happen once. I don't know if the Assimilate Ships is just a rarely used ability or if it was a bug. Either way, it happened.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    sander233 wrote: »
    Really? According to in-game lore, we've been ignoring the Borg as a potential threat since 2385 when Janeway's task force got dismantled and we've only recently woken up to the fact that they're still out there and still want to take over the galaxy.

    New technology? Where? We're still using phasers/disruptors and photon torpedoes as standard-issue weapons. Quantum, tricobalt and transphasic torps have all been around for at least the past four decades. Most of our ship designs are decades if not centuries old. (*cough* excelsior.) Anti-proton weapons may be sorta new, but those aren't really all that effective against the Borg. Plasma - at best were using the Borg's own technology against them. Its that or we borrowed it from the romulans. Shield and deflector technology may have improved somewhat, but since the Borg's killer weapons can bypass shields you can't argue that new shields are helping all that much.
    The ship we use are refitted, and just have the same skin. And some of them that were "top of the line" during the TVshow, are now lower lvl ship, like the intrepid class.
    Meanwhile the Borg have had half the galaxy to run around in for the last forty years, assimilating God knows how many other species and all of their technology. Who knows - maybe some Delta-quadrant mad scientist invented an invisible plasmaball of painful messy death and then got assimilated.
    The borg struggled after the end of voyager. The pathogen released by future Janyway hit them hard, and they barely survived it. It's doubtful they spent their time assimilated a lot of new technology, since they were barely surviving from encounter with the undines, and the pathogen.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I've also noticed that Borg Spheres now use a "run to mama" tactic when they are under fire.

    The easiest way to survive in an STF is to stay away from Gates and Cubes that will one shot you while you clean up the smaller ships.

    After the last patch or so they all run towards the nearest Gate or Cube drawing most puggers in after them to die.

    "Working as Intended?"
  • krypter3krypter3 Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I've also noticed that Borg Spheres now use a "run to mama" tactic when they are under fire.

    The easiest way to survive in an STF s to stay away from Gates and Cubes that will one shot you while you clean up the smaller ships.

    After the last patch or so they all run towards the nearest gate or Cube drawing most puggers in after them to die.

    "Working as Intended?"

    I noticed that while doing an Omega fleet PVE mission. I decided to risk my hand in vs two spheres in my sovvie while the Odyssies and other big ships dealt with the cubes, only to find them running to a cube and me getting one shotted -_-
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