Is upgrading the Jem'Hadar sets worth it?

unangbangkay

As above.

I currently have a MACO XI set and am completing an Omega XI set. I also have the Tholian XI set.

Are the Mk XII upgrade kits from the Lobi store worth it at all? Or should I just upgrade the Space Set instead?

I'm trying to decide between buying those and saving it for completing the Temporal Warfare set (already have the tachyo console), but I'm wondering if that set is any good on a Mobius destroyer.

scurry5

You will probably find the set bonus of the Temporal Warfare set much more interesting. It's generally agreed that the Jem set upgrade isn't really worth it.

starkaos

The ground armor has a unique look so that might be a reason to get the ground set, but generally the Mk XI version is good enough for most people.

ussfury

Ahh, but are upgrading the space sets worth it?

mightionny

I upgraded my JH set - it was used on my Science Odyssey which uses six Dominion Polaron arrays - the phased polarons from "Boldly They Rode".

I flew it on some exploration missions involving space combat, and I have to say, my Purple Polaron Death Toy is back.

Stuff just seemed to die faster, even compared to my Tac Odyssey that has advanced fleet phaser arrays and the MK XII MACO set, and it's nice to have shields over 11k again on it (I think)

Granted, I don't have hard numbers to back it up, it just seems more powerful. Nothing drastic; just noticeable. Worth the 200 lobi, at least to me.

tenkari

scurry5 wrote: »

You will probably find the set bonus of the Temporal Warfare set much more interesting. It's generally agreed that the Jem set upgrade isn't really worth it.

the last couple content patches of the anniversary event starting seems to have buffed it a bit. i think its worth it. I got it on my Dread carrier running phased polaron and dominion polaron wepaonry. i plan on saving up for Elite Fleet polarons and equipping those. in full attack power my dual phased polaron bank does a descent amount of damage while running Attack Pattern Omega on my eng.

while it's not an 'end all' set, when on dominion ships i think its pretty good. the polaron power bonus for mk XII was boosted to 14.1% increase, and the weapon power bonus from the engines was boosted to +10, which means when put on a jem bug you have more power to allocate to your other systems.

deathspeedmk

I think its worth it, if you intend to use it to its full.

I fly multi ship types on all my charc ( after some time) I got a escort on my VA ENG charc which has got countermessures so the jem set seems decent in that area..

also I think its worth trying to keep crew alive as it helps with getting the hull back up again.

Its not hard to get ethoir compared with other sets

macrican

when i got my fleet saber, I slapped the mk11 jem space set and started playing with various polaron builds. I did upgrade it to the mk12 set recently and I have to say that my survivability has increased and I play mainly PVE content, heavy on the STF's. I also use three of the dominion polaron cannons (blue mk11's obviously) upfront and they are more effective (best word i can use) than my mk12 purple Borg Polaron DHC's.

savnoka

Depends on the lobi you have, honestly.

I had 300+ I wasn't going to spend on anything else, so upgrading the sets made sense. The JH space is nothing that impressive, but if you're just getting to 50 and you don't *have* any of the STF / Reman stuff and can't afford or craft Aegis, it's not bad. It works well with the polaron weapons, it's a good damage boost.

The ground set does have unique armor look which some people might like. The health boost and occasional stealthing can come in handy.

Long story short: If you have a full MACO/Omega/HG set on ground, the ground really offers nothing. If you have a complete MACO/Omega/HG set on space, it'd debatable, it's not really good for Borg but works well on fleet dailies and other stuff.

If you have no end-game sets, it's well worth 300 lobi.

smokeybacon90

If you have the lobi, don't. Get something far superior, the Tachyokinetic Console, for the same price (200). If you are intent on a Polaron build then you may start to consider it. I see no other reason however, especially when the rep sets are superior to it.

trhrangerxml

I think of it, the idea of a Jem MK XII space set upgrade was well worth it before there was a Adapted MACO MK XII space set (seeing it was an Honor Guard light). I'm still eventually going to get it (cross my fingers), its a nice add on to a Bug using Polaron.

dixa1

it's worth it if you are a new player, dont have the rep for omega but have 150 lobi

the set will last quite a while.

illcadia

It's worth it if you're interested in PVP. The Jem'Hadar deflector is a great choice for power draining builds, as well as other sci-focused builds, and the +2% stealth detection provides a not insignificant boost to tachyon field and sensor scan and that sort of thing.

The shield is very nearly on par with the MACO XII- the only real difference is that it loses out approximately 400 cap and doesn't have the +power ability- instead it gives +10 kinetic resist and + able crewman resistance, so your crew don't get injured as much- which translates to basically a saved engineering console slot (No need to run emergency forcefields), so you'll benefit from having a human crew boosting your repair rate longer.


Perhaps the most universally useful of the set however are the engines, which provide a static +5 to weapons power, and also have a 'efficient weapons' bonus that grants a variable of up to +7.5 additional weapons power, depending on your weapon power setting. Thus if your weapon power is set to, say, 25 (because you're running a carrier or a sci ship and aren't as focused on direct damage), you'll see a net boost of +7.5 power, raising your weapons power up to at least 32- and more with training in warp core efficiency and warp core potential, both of which provide bonus power.


The main downside to the Jem'Hadar set is that it doesn't quite stack up to the Omega rep sets in ancillary abilities- the damage boost to Polaron weapons is nice, but it doesn't have the versatility of Tetryon Glider. The 3 piece bonus is much shorter range than either gravitic anchor or the maco ability, and does much less (just drains shields and decloaks unlucky ships), as opposed to knocking subsystems offline, pushing the target, and inflicting a massive defense penalty.

As a result, you have a set that is strong, but it is not the best choice for most builds- the Borg/MACO/OMEGA/ADAPTED sets are.

It *is* a very solid choice however for some builds, and if you're going to be flying one of those, then chances are it's worth the effort in buying a bunch of keys off the exchange to get the lobi for it.

squatsauce

I found the set to be worth it. The simple truth is that there really aren't very many sets better than it is in general. The ones that are require a lot of grinding and many days worth of reputation missions before you'll ever see them. In the interim, the JHMXII set provides the player with some useful bonuses that will serve them well until they decide to invest the time into something better. It's absolutely a step up from the MK XI set. If you've already got access to the MKXII maco and omega sets, then it will offer less utility overall.

So, honestly, how worthwhile it is seems to be dependent upon how easily you can acquire better sets or if you find the bonuses suitable to your build.