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ridiculous bug only set

emoejoeemoejoe Member Posts: 229 Arc User
edited January 2013 in PvP Gameplay
the ridiculous op dom set is jokes. ultra low cd, insane power. "analyze weakness" is guaranteed (1) systems offline for any attack (only have to deal 15000)
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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited January 2013
    Care to list up timers on the console items? I dont have total overview on either of em :confused:
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  • aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The consoles are good. But in order for somebody to make good use of them they first need to sink alittle under 200million ECs into it.

    Then they need to take off two consoles to apply the new ones, more then likely harming their previous performance in order to do so, less turn, less resist, less damage etc.

    To mK best use of the smexy new consoles he also needs to be in a good team. Alone among pugs it's less well.
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  • doomiciledoomicile Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Can the Dominion Consoles be used on the JHAS? With 5 Tac Slots and 4 Engineering Slots, it can spare 2 slots for the Consoles without sacrificing much.
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  • srspellssrspells Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    yep I use it on my bug got rid of neuts dont even notice the difference without them.
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  • cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I'm scared too man.
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  • corbinwolf#9797 corbinwolf
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    edited January 2013
    If the bug ship is required than perhaps there are plans to re-introduce it as a Lobi Store ship or a C-Store ship in future? How else could they account for the requirement when clearly, it is unobtainable by the majority of players?!?

    Food for thought, albeit speculation.
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  • thegrimcorsairthegrimcorsair Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    bugspatteredjack wrote: »
    If the bug ship is required than perhaps there are plans to re-introduce it as a Lobi Store ship or a C-Store ship in future? How else could they account for the requirement when clearly, it is unobtainable by the majority of players?!?

    Food for thought, albeit speculation.

    It's to get people to purchase it and reduce/extinct the amount of salable bugs in existence, likely as a prelude to making it available again for purchase at a later date as part of a C-Store promotion or in preparation for the launch of a Dominion faction sometime down the road. Given that its not likely we'd see a Dominion faction anytime this year, or even next year, my money is on the former assertion over the latter.
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  • doomiciledoomicile Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    This is not a proper solution by any means. There are already too many JHAS's polluting PvP as it is. Whereas I used to only see 1 on any given team, now I see at least 2 or more.

    I don't even like the Bug and I certainly don't want one. It's not the end-all ship in an ideal 1 on 1 but it certainly skews the odds in team PvP without any real skill required, just proper BOFF loadout and gear/Doff's.

    Many of the people who have the Jem Bug paid a lot of money for it and I don't want to see it nerfed but Cryptic needs to do something to balance PvP to make many of the other VA ships viable, C-store, Lockbox or otherwise.

    Personally, I feel a considerable defense nerf to speed/maneuverability would be the best option. I know a lot of Escort pilots would shout BOO! but Fighters were never meant to tank. If you're taking heat, you pop Omega and/or Evasive and heal up.
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  • deusemperordeusemperor Member Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    When they come out with a new doff pack the old doff pack will start dropping lobi and jem'hadar attack ships like cryptic has done before so try to get one then I know I'll try to get one.
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  • admgreeradmgreer Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I have a Bug and it is a Monster but there are ways to counter it. I also have the Fleet MVAE and Defiant and they are just as deadly as the Bug. The Fleet MVAE with 5 Tac consoles and a hold ability can realy cause some pain.
  • admgreeradmgreer Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I have a Bug and it is a Monster but there are waus to counter it. I also have the Fleet MVAE and Defiant and they are just as deadly as the Bug. The Fleet MVAE with 5 Tac consoles and a hold ability can realy cause some pain.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Bah, wait until they add the Plesh Brek (Breen Bug), Sarr Theln (Heavy Warship Carrier w/Bleth Choas drain fighters), and Rezreth (Dreadnought Carrier w/Bleth Choas or Plesh Brek)...along with the additional Breen consoles. By that time, there will also be additional proliferation of Fed/KDF consoles.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Bugs have long been the pinnacle of escorts so its not surprising that the gain well from the new "whatever".

    ApO doesnt need a defense nerf because it is built on the concpet that being an attack pattern it has an tactical evasion buff played put by the turn buff , speed boost and defensive bonus. The anti-hold versus TB may need a looksy bt overall I think its fine.

    Possibly as some have suggested large ship like cruisers and some science should get a inherent defense bonus for thier massive size to balance out the escorfs defensive bonus for speed ?
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Possibly as some have suggested large ship like cruisers and some science should get a inherent defense bonus for thier massive size to balance out the escorfs defensive bonus for speed ?

    Escort: +Defense*, +Turn, +Impulse Modifier*, -Shield Modifier
    Cruiser: +Hull, -Turn
    Science: -Hull, +Shield Modifier

    Escort has base Hull.
    Cruiser has base Shield, Defense, and Impulse Modifier.
    Science has base Turn, Defense, and Impulse Modifier.

    *What's the deal with the asterisk? The higher Impulse Modifier also means it's easier to hit the Bonus Defense cap in an Escort (80%) than in a Cruiser or Science Vessel (70%).

    This obviously ignores BOFF layouts, console slots, individual ship bonuses, etc, etc, etc, etc. It's very crude - one of those quick glances and that's what kind of stands out.

    And it's often ignored, unfortunately. Those additional things matter. Sticking with the Bug, I present the following (no, I don't have this):

    Engineer Captain

    Passives
    Romulan: +Shield Systems, OnBeingCritShieldHealProc
    Omega: +Hull Regen, +ShieldRegen

    TT1, THY2, APO1, APO3
    TT1, TS2, APD2
    EPtS1, RSP1
    ET1
    TSS1, HE2
    (All Human BOFFs)

    DOFFs: SDO(BFI), ME(ET), 3x PWO(Torp)

    Weapons
    Fore: 3x Rapid Trans, Breen Cluster
    Aft: Rapid Trans, Breen Cluster, Disruptor Turret

    Deflector: Borg
    Engine: Borg
    Shields: AMACO/KHG

    Devices: Eng Batt, Aux Batt

    Consoles
    Tac: Borg, 4x Compressor
    Eng: SIF, 2x Neut, Tachyo
    Sci: Rom Emitter [HuH]

    Power: 25/100/25/50

    WTF is that? It's nothing, just an example. With many of the complaints about various things out there...if people were to share such information - their builds...there would probably be quite a few responses of: WTF is that?

    Because those other things matter - but - people have their expectations all over the place and there's folks even further out past left field than I normally am. Again, no - I don't have that particular Bug build. If I had a Bug, I'd go Plasma Torps. :P
  • blznfunblznfun Member Posts: 241 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    admgreer wrote: »
    I have a Bug and it is a Monster but there are ways to counter it. I also have the Fleet MVAE and Defiant and they are just as deadly as the Bug. The Fleet MVAE with 5 Tac consoles and a hold ability can realy cause some pain.

    If only everyone thought this way when it concerned other "stuff" Cryptic releases... There is ALWAYS a way around something. You just have to find it and adapt.

    BTW a simple tac team clears the "Analyze Weakness" ability immediately and its on a two second power up before it activates. Thats only 3 secs between tac teams to time it perfectly if someone is using 2 tac teams... Its not unbeatable and giving the UI lag in the game, you will be lucky to get it to hit in PvP unless of course you are sub nuked and can't do anything at all anyways and you would be dead meat as well already.
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  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Almost had me there. ;)
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    that post is from the mirror universe :D


    a mirror bug would be awesome, it would be like worse then the aquarius or something lol
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