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ericphailericphail Member Posts: 87 Arc User
I suppose it's a matter of opinion really but what do people think is the 'best' BOff layout?

My personal opinion leans toward the 4/3/3/2 layout seen on carriers, albeit I'm not sure if the lieutenant slot should be the same type as the cmdr or one of the ltc slots.

Another contender could be 4/3+1/3+1 (if it exists), the closest thing to a 4/4/4 we will probably ever see.

Given my preferences I suppose that means that the fleet Ning'tao has the best layout in the game (4/3/3/2 all universal).

But the point of this thread is to ask what (in your opinion) is the best BOff layout?
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  • wolfpack12cwolfpack12c Member Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I like the 4 3 2 2 1 kinda like the wells or the Breen set up is nice also
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I like the following setups:

    Tac: 2, 3
    Engi: 4
    Sci: 2, 1

    Tac: 4, 3
    Engi: 2
    Sci: 2, 1

    Tac: 2, 1
    Engi: 2
    Sci: 4, 3

    Tac: 4, 2
    Engi: 2, 1
    Sci: 3

    Now the next challenge: guess which ships those came from XD.
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  • ericphailericphail Member Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Heretic: My guess for the first one is an Oddy of some sort

    2. could be one of quite a few escorts (Prometheus?)

    3. Generic Sci (Reconnaissance?)

    4. Not a clue.

    Numerically:

    4/3/3/2
    4/3/3/1/1
    4/3/2/2/1 (of course ensign universal variants moves this closer vs all fixed, still not the Ning'tao though)

    based on Ltc and Lt slots (the exceedingly unlikely 4/4/3/1 and 4/4/4 would be better due to cmdr slots but since I doubt they'll release a ship with 2 cmdr slots or move up to 13 total...)

    I'd like to know if people would choose:

    4/4/2 (only 10 total but 2 cmdr) or similarly 4/4/1/1

    if not then:
    4/4/3 or 4/4/2/1 (11 total, not unheard of though 2 cmdr level slots would be new)

    And whether they think the devs will ever release such combinations
  • jbmaverickjbmaverick Member Posts: 935 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    My current personal favorite is 4 Tac, 3 Eng, 2 Eng, 2 Sci, 1 Sci, which to my knowledge only fits on the Chimera. I'm always experimenting with new setups tho.

    I do admit, if I could find a 4/3/3/2 or 4/3/3/1/1 setup with the right distribution of career types, I'd probably prefer it to 4/3/2/2/1, but I doubt I'll ever see the distribution I want on a ship type that I like. Those seem to always be full carriers, which are pretty much automatically always going to be huge science vessel-types (and have the careers match that general purpose) rather than something a little more combat oriented.

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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    ericphail wrote: »
    Heretic: My guess for the first one is an Oddy of some sort

    2. could be one of quite a few escorts (Prometheus?)

    3. Generic Sci (Reconnaissance?)

    4. Not a clue.

    1) Correct.

    2) Also correct, but in this case, it is the Fleet Patrol Escort.

    3) Also correct. Mirror Universe Reconnaissance Science Vessel (identical BOff layout to the standard RSV)

    4) Breen Chel'Gret Warship. :P
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  • heresincebetaheresincebeta Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Two others that are quite good:
    3/2+2+4/1 and 4/1+3+3/1
  • tcostiktcostik Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Two others that are quite good:
    3/2+2+4/1 and 4/1+3+3/1

    I like that 4/1+3+3+1. What ships use that?
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    ericphail wrote: »
    Given my preferences I suppose that means that the fleet Ning'tao has the best layout in the game (4/3/3/2 all universal).

    Agreed.

    4/3/3/2 all universal is easily the best BOFF layout in the entire game.

    It's held in check by the fact that the Fleet Ning'tao has shuttle hull & shields.
  • heresincebetaheresincebeta Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    tcostik wrote: »
    I like that 4/1+3+3+1. What ships use that?

    The Tholian Recluse.

    It's actually Tac 1/Eng 3/Sci 3+Sci 1/Univ 4... I wrote it as Tac 4+1 cause that's how I use it.
  • tcostiktcostik Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The Tholian Recluse.

    It's actually Tac 1/Eng 3/Sci 3+Sci 1/Univ 4... I wrote it as Tac 4+1 cause that's how I use it.

    Woops. I have a Recluse, but I haven't used it in forever, which is why I forgot it had that set up. I should start using it again, once I find a build I like.
  • ericphailericphail Member Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Heretic:

    I like the mirror recon sci also (was damn cheap on the exchange too :) )

    and 4. Chel'Grett: D'oh how did I miss that, I'm flying one gorramit.
  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    ericphail wrote: »
    Heretic:

    I like the mirror recon sci also (was damn cheap on the exchange too :) )

    and 4. Chel'Grett: D'oh how did I miss that, I'm flying one gorramit.

    ROFL... yeeeeah... I figured it would be pretty obvious considering how many of the bloody buggers are zipping around, but you never know XD.

    And I do find it amusing how little love the MURSV and RSV get, considering they have wonderful BOff layouts, and great console layouts too. But you should try out the regular RSV. It has a smaller crew, but it's turn rate and inertia are actually a little better. I have a FRSV, and holy ballz that thing is amazing. It's damage output and drain ability is great, even with BOffs setup to run a cruiser.

    Anyways, I found another one I rather like:

    Tactical: 3, 2
    Engineering: 4, 1
    Science: 2

    Good luck guessing that one =P
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Anyways, I found another one I rather like:

    Tactical: 3, 2
    Engineering: 4, 1
    Science: 2

    Good luck guessing that one =P

    Fleet Assault Cruiser with a sci in the uni slot?

    EDIT. Never mind, I was looking at the old Tribble only Fleet Assault.
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Fleet Assault Cruiser with a sci in the uni slot?

    EDIT. Never mind, I was looking at the Fleet Assault Cruiser Refit, which was only on tribble.

    Close, but not quite. You're on the right track though. But probably gonna give it away by saying this: swap factions.
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Well then its a Fleet Vorcha... that is the kind of fleet cruiser the Federation needs. It has one boff slot better than the Fleet Assault and 3 more turn rate. Sigh.
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  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    My perfect layout would be:

    Tac: 3
    Eng: 4, 2
    Sci: 2, 1

    Though I have yet to find one (that is affordable) that has that layout
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    adamkafei wrote: »
    My perfect layout would be:

    Tac: 3
    Eng: 4, 2
    Sci: 2, 1

    Though I have yet to find one (that is affordable) that has that layout

    Very close to Fleet/Retro Excelsior. Swap out that eternally hated ensign engi for an ensign sci and you have what you want.
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  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Very close to Fleet/Retro Excelsior. Swap out that eternally hated ensign engi for an ensign sci and you have what you want.

    Fleet Excel is what I have, Polarise hull to go with HE, TSS and Aux2SIF :D

    Oh if only...
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  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited January 2013
    I used to not like the Tactical Escort Retrofit BOFF layout because I use all cannons, and I was wasting the 3rd ensign slot.

    However, now that I have access to the Romulan Tactical BOFF with the Covert Operative trait, I now love the BOFF layout. Even if the 3rd Ensign BOFF ability is wasted.
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    adamkafei wrote: »
    Fleet Excel is what I have, Polarise hull to go with HE, TSS and Aux2SIF :D

    Oh if only...

    Hmm Polarize Hull is quite circumstantial. Between BFI and Evasive Maneuvers you can handle anything bad that can happen in a tractor beam situation. I would like a second TSS though, or move HE into the ensign slot and get TBR1.
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Personally, I quite like having a Tactical Lt. Comm. around.

    I dislike third Tac and Eng ensigns.

    I find a Sci Lt. a good basis for any ship.

    That means I still like a lot of layouts.

    For escort-like ships, 6 Tac slots (4+2) seems sufficient and offers good Eng or Sci possibilities on a Lt. Comm. slot (the Chel Grett is fine, for instance).

    For cruisers, the Regent's 4+2 Eng, 3+1 Tac and 2 Sci seems ideal to me.

    All that said, the more higher slots, the better, so the carrier-like Lt. Comm. Tac with a Comm. and Lt. Comm. Eng and Lt. Sci would be great to have on a cruiser.
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